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kickstarter you most regret (giving money to)

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by agentorange, May 4, 2016.

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most regret

  1. Pillars of Eternity

    33 vote(s)
    28.0%
  2. Wasteland 2

    18 vote(s)
    15.3%
  3. Underworld Ascendant

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Torment: Tides of Numenera

    2 vote(s)
    1.7%
  5. Divinity: Original Sin

    1 vote(s)
    0.8%
  6. The Banner Saga

    6 vote(s)
    5.1%
  7. Bard's Tale IV

    1 vote(s)
    0.8%
  8. Star Citizen

    7 vote(s)
    5.9%
  9. Tropes vs. Women in Video Games

    16 vote(s)
    13.6%
  10. Other (Please Specify)

    34 vote(s)
    28.8%
  1. Llama-Yak Hybrid Wild Sheep Dumbfuck

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    Voted other becaue no "none" or "kingcomrade option".

    Reason: Poll not public.

    :rpgcodex:
     
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  2. Beowulf Liturgist

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    Same here.

    Other than that - W2.
    I haven't checked the DC version yet, but I don't think it would improve what didn't work for me in the original release.
     
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  3. Manmower Unwanted Edgy

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    Commendable dedication, comrade. :salute:
     
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  4. Achiman Arbiter Patron

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    Nvm the shitposting, how long till your expansion/thing is finished for Stasis?
     
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  5. Burning Bridges Enviado de meu SM-G3502T usando Tapatalk

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  6. DeepOcean Arcane

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    Hard to tell, with exception of the ones that weren't released yet, all of them disappointed on some major way.

    Wasteland 2: You control a group of rangers on a crazy and unforgiving wasteland but Wasteland 2 is crazy and unforgiving on all the wrong areas and derivative RPG 101 on the areas it should shine. The game is a mess that could turn out much better if InXile expent more time and talent on it, if feels like an unfinished game where a coherent design was never agreed upon before release. If is better than Wasteland 1? Yes, but unless you are an apologetic shill with a bureaucratic mind that shouldn't be an excuse for mediocrity. This game needed a more coherent design on its systems, level design, lore, story...

    Pillars of Eternity: Again, another kickstarter where developers do the whole thing "Hey, it is isometric and RtwP,we never promised to make an outstanding game, we accomplished exactly the minimum we said on the kickstarter so you can't sue us, .". PoE suffered from the same syndrome Wasteland 2 did (not an excuse, Obsidian worked with tight budgets before and it released better products.), there is no coherent design behind it, on the lore, on the world, on the level design, on the encounters and unfinished content... there is a mish mash of ideas that don't make a coherent thing where you recognize some tought was placed behind it, some ideas come from the old IE games just to check the nostalgia boxes, others come straight from the modern popamole RPG design playbook and they mix as well as you can expect.

    D:OS: On RPGs, immersion is important, sure, Bethesdards give the word immersion a bad name but this is exactly what is lacking on D:OS. The world feels random, the setting isn't interesting and manage to be even more generic fantasy than fucking Forgotten Realms. D:OS is the game with the weakest writing from the big ones, while the other kickstarters have shitty writing, they sometimes deliver, what can't be said of D:OS. D:OS writing can't be taken seriously and I'm not talking on a grimdark sort of way, if this game had wonderful jokes and parodies like on worlds like Discworld, all the seriousness could be thrown out of window in favour of witty comedy. The problem is that the jokes on D:OS feel like they were told and somebody forgotten the other half of the joke so you have funny moments one after the other that don't go anywhere and just destroy your suspension of disbelief.
     
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  7. bertram_tung Arbiter

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    Spaceventure. It's been like 5 years. All they have released is a terrible mini-game. The final game might end up being good and all, but I'd rather have my $250 back and just buy it on release. I thought that fucking game was going to be out 3 years ago.

    Also, Shenmue III, just because I donated when I was really, really drunk. I've barely even played the shenmue games!
     
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  8. Burning Bridges Enviado de meu SM-G3502T usando Tapatalk

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    Fargo, Shadowrun and Kingdom come Deliverance, they are all shit.
     
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  9. talan Learned

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    Takedown: Red Sabre. It's my fault really...
     
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  10. grimace Savant

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    None of the kickstarters I've backed have reached 101% complete status yet.



    What's the deal with this InSomnia?
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1892480689/insomnia-pc-max-linux/description


    Same. I backed Copper Dreams.


    Got a shiny Royal Founder account you're not using?
     
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  11. polo Erudite

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  12. Mexi Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    Wasteland: 2, easily. Bought the stupid ass collector's edition and everything. Not even the DC helped save this game. It's garbage. Then the company goes on a suing crusade against a small developer. Totally regret giving money to this monster of a company.

    PoE with the 3.0 patch is actually pretty damn good. Pre-3.0 it was a bit of a mess, but they really refined the game. Having a lot of fun with it, and I will definitely back PoE: 2 when they get the Kickstarter up (if they do go that route).

    I regret not backing Expeditions: Conquistador. Pre PoE 3.0, I would've called this the best Kickstarter game I've played. Really, really fucking good game.
     
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  13. Admiral Rimjob POOBUM Arcane

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  14. Executr Savant

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    I only backed two Kickstarter projects and I wish I hadn't.

    Elite Dangerous: After the always-online announcement, just before releasing the game, I applied for a refund. 3 months and a bunch of support tickets later finally got it.

    Limit Theory: Given up hope of ever seeing the game or my money.
     
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  15. GameGear Unwanted

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    Not enough Shadowrun hate (I paid money for the first, yet still had buyers remorse for Dragonfall and Hong Kong despite getting the other two for free)

    Linear shit with an unbelievably terrible interface. The custom content also blows my left nut in all three iterations.
     
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  16. Lurker King Self-Ejected The Real Fanboy

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    Which scenario is worse? Taking gamers’ money to deliver horrible games and dumb down the industry even more, or never releasing them at all, but keeping the current level of decline? Discuss!!!
     
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  17. Curious_Tongue Larpfest Patron

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    I've never seen Kickstarter as a pre-order service. I see it more of a way of supporting talent that can't secure funding for their projects.
     
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  18. grimace Savant

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  19. Achiman Arbiter Patron

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    The scenario is worse when they don't deliver anything clearly.
    Imagine a 100 Cleves draining money out of game investment and generally fouling up the supply.

    A shitty game delivered might still provide something for your money, kickstarters where they have no real chance or (doublefine) where they have had problems sticking anywhere near to budget should be discouraged. Some of that definitely has happened now though with newer kickstarter projects (yes I'm aware there are still some batshit crazy ones like that Patrick Rothfuss board game) having higher scrutiny and scepticism as the default public view.
     
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  20. Lurker King Self-Ejected The Real Fanboy

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    That it is what it looks like at first glance, but think about it. The first scenario implies that most players will believe that games like Shadowrun, W2 and PoE are new oldschool classics and that developers like Sawyer will keep being paid under the promise to deliver more “oldschool” games, while they are doing the opposite. In short, it’s making a lot of people believe in a cRPG renascence that doesn’t exist, which is way worse because it is dumbing down even a niche medium. With few exceptions, kickstarter isn’t rewarding talent and promoting oldschool games, instead, it’s rewarding crooks to deliver more popamole games and making everyone believing that these popamole games are any better than triple-A bullshit. Someone could argue that as more and more players keep buying these shitty cRPGs, the more random audience the good guys like ITS and Stygian will receive. That is the furthest thing from truth. In practice, the more cRPG developers keep asking for funding, the more selective players get it with their wallets and their time. Just compare the kind of attention AoD received before kickstarter and now. The skepticism would make the few self-funded projects more welcomed.
     
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  21. GuiltyofBeingTrite Learned

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    BATTLETECH (idk)
    $25.00

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    Divinity: Original Sin 2 (idk)
    $25.00

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    Shadowrun: Hong Kong (worth it)
    $15.00


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    Shadow Era: Shattered Fates - Cross Platform Card Game (worth it)
    $10.00


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    The Mandate (idk)
    $1.00


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    Torment: Tides of Numenera (idk)
    $20.00

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    Barkley 2 - an RPG Sequel to Barkley Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden (vapor)
    $10.00


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    Planetary Annihilation - A Next Generation RTS (ehhh, they had some really cool ideas, it just wasn't much fun. A less fun Supreme Commander, which is a less fun Total Annihilation)
    $20.00

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    Project Eternity (boring, 50% better if turn based)
    $20.00

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    Dead State: The Zombie Survival RPG (def. the worst)
    $15.00

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    Republique by Camouflaj + Logan (meh)
    $10.00

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    Shadowrun Returns (Totally worth it, maybe the best)
    $15.00

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    The Banner Saga (boring combat, will try again though)
    $10.00

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    FTL: Faster Than Light (totally worth it)
    $10

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    Double Fine Adventure (tried once)
    $15


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    Wasteland 2 (I should sell the box, good combat though)
    $50



    Pasting this from the screen was pretty easy, actually
     
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  22. Stabwound Arcane

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    Oh holy shit, they took out a home equity loan to complete Hero U? And apparently they have devs working on deferred payment until the game is done, at this point $50k owed to them.

    I feel legitimately awful for these two, there's no way this is going to end well. It's like watching a 747 loaded with people slowly falling from the sky.

    I mean look at the state this game is in so far

     
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  23. Mexi Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    Wow, I looked up that project. While skimming through the comments, I ran into this statement.

    It's interesting that almost all of the refund requests have been from $20 backers. Apparently some of those thought that they were buying a game rather than contributing to the development of a project. Everyone at higher levels understands that a Kickstarter pledge is a way of funding a project, not a product purchase.

    Yeah...
     
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  24. I only backed D:OS and as much as I despise Larian for overpromising and underdelievring with the whole editor aspect of it, I didn't hate the game that much. Still, I probably wouldn't back it without those promises.
     
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  25. talan Learned

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    For the second KS, they had in their $20 pledge as:
    Whilst the keen eye sees 'Does NOT include the game', you'd imagine some % assume a $20 pledge include the game...
     
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