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KickStarter Kingdom Come: Deliverance Pre-Release Thread [RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Morgoth, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Where is this number from? I've always thought W1 was a flop on launch and they only made a bundle with the Director's Cut.
     
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  3. cvv Arcane Patron

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    I stand corrected then.

    Also Warhorse certainly didn't intend to make a low-selling game. But not giving players an escapist, powerfantasy type experience and replacing the traditional ancient evil plot with a complex story about Czech-German relations in the 15th century is extremely risky sales-wise. Still, as a supporter from the get go I wish them the best of success ofc.
     
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  4. DJOGamer PT Magister

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    PoE and PST is not worth a shit.
    No Ultima Underworld or Star Trail.
    Gothic 3 instead of Gothic 1.
    And Witcher 3 GOTY instead of Deus Ex GOTY.
     
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  5. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    Honestly PoE is getting a lot of shit but the world is far better with it in. I do think we should support rpg devs unless their games are utter shit. The game is not some great masterpiece,but it is a game that i don't regret buying. I would ratter have an arcanum level of games but we got this,far better than the drought that was a decade ago. Thanks to PoE we do have a lot of good/decent rpgs. They did revitalised the rpg even if the game is not great.
     
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  6. Haba Harbinger of Decline Patron

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    Mass "market appeal" is more complicated than that.

    - non-fantasy setting
    - low* magic
    - no dragons or romances
    - perceived as difficult to approach

    Witcher for example had a very strong local market in Poland. Does similar one exist for this one in the Czech Republic?

    An outlier is always a possibility, but you have to agree that the odds are stacked against Warhorse. From a business perspective, this is a high risk, low return kind of a project. Since it is kind of an untapped potential, there is the slim chance that suddenly it will sell tons of copies (see Legend of Grimrock).

    *) boozemancy excluded
     
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  7. MI.Tex Unwanted

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    No Morrowind? 0/10 shit list
     
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  8. Paul_cz Arcane

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    There is actually a possible romance in KCD :)

    I don't know. On one hand, yes, fantasy and dragons and shit are mass market, but I still think if KCD was made by someone like, I dunno, Blizzard or Rockstar or whatever, with corresponding marketing budget, it would be hyperhyped despite its historical setting and lack of fantasy.
     
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    I think it'll have a large market in the countries that Gothic and The Witcher usually sell in (Germany, Poland, Czechia for Home Advantage, maybe Eastern Europe/Russia since they love historical stuff like Cossacks), enough to make them back the development budget and some profit. Whether it becomes a "runaway success" internationally or gets big attention in the US and other markets and on consoles is doubtful.
     
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  10. jarmaro Arbiter

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    Care to elaborate? World gained nothing by having PoE, it isn't good enough to be remembered, it's not good for what it is and isn't revolutionary in any regard.
     
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  11. HoboForEternity In every buttons you press Patron

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    PoE is good for what it is.
     
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    It was an isometric CRPG that turned a (big) profit. A real RPG that’s commercially viable is a net positive.

    Anyone who likes the genre should be glad Pillars exist even if they hate the game itself.
     
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  13. titus Arcane Patron

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    Bought it. Hopefully the potatoes will deliver.
     
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  14. SymbolicFrank Liturgist

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    Two words: The Sims
     
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  15. Deadass Learned

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    i backed this game 4 years ago if it turns out to be shit i'll kill the codex
     
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  17. TheSentinel Magister

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    Connecting classless systems to freedom of choice, lol. Very irresponsible thing to do, and a straight up lie!
     
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    :rpgcodex:
     
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  19. FUDU Prophet

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    It will probably get crucified in the main stream press by "gaming journalists".

    Won't help the bottom line.
     
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  20. cvv Arcane Patron

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    I'm almost certain the mainstream reaction will be very positive. Most of the reviews will be like "there are some bugs and wonky animations but the world, setting and writing is impressive. 8/10". We may see a few 9/10s too.

    But I think the Metacritic user score will be low and the Steam score "Mixed". There will be a lot of retards who'll get hyped by the inevitable Skyrim comparisons, will buy the game, realize there are no dragons and the plot is about complex geopolitical nuances in the 15th century Central Europe and proceed to reviewbomb the game on Metacritic and Steam.
     
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    Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2
    But the thing with no blacks in Bohemia? Isn't that at least -3 on the overall score?
     
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  22. TheSentinel Magister

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    Witcher 3 didn't get a -3 no blacks score.
     
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  23. Alienman Arcane Patron

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    That is true.

    This must be hard for journos, they clearly don't like Vavra, but if the game is good and enjoyable...
     
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  24. Deadass Learned

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    fuck you i'm a baron
     
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  25. jungl Learned

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    first real mod. Turn henry into martin lawrence complete with football jersey and rest of his apparel and have all the females bangable with cards like the first witcher game.
     
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