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Let's Read Let's Read the Neonomicon! (Alan Moore writes porn)

RK47

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Yeah. What the eyeball said. It's not even subtle, SWAT cars and SMGs vs Night club shooting isn't gonna fit well with the mythos.

...oh, also ...HOOOOOUUUGHHHH.

Why? WHY GOD WHY? I stopped reading at that point.
 

Kz3r0

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Radisshu said:
It kind of feels like Moore only wrote this to annoy Lovecraft, even though Lovecraft is dead.

EDIT: Isn't the serial killer supposed to be a commentary on Lovecraft? With the swastika on his forehead symbolizing his racism
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Eyeball said:
Radisshu said:
It kind of feels like Moore only wrote this to annoy Lovecraft, even though Lovecraft is dead.

EDIT: Isn't the serial killer supposed to be a commentary on Lovecraft? With the swastika on his forehead symbolizing his racism
He likely IS Lovecraft. In one story, IIRC, Lovecraft writes of a necromancer living in a house on top of an (yet another motherfucking) ancient tomb where he conducts unholy experiments seeking the secret of eternal life, eventually managing to replace his aged body with the body of another before finally being confronted and destroyed by the main character.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Case_o ... exter_Ward

This comic is not especially Lovecraftian - the reason I like Lovecraft is that he's usually pretty subtle, building up a creey atmosphere of ANCIENT ARCANE HORRORS OH MY FTAGHN FTAGHN without actually showing any baddies, and then suddenly, BAM! Shoggoth in yo face, bitch.

This has prolonged rape sequences with a Deep One and is not especially sinister or creepy - just kind of icky. Lovecraft didn't write in detail about throbbing Elder phalluses for a reason, Moore.

I never thought Lovecraft was that subtle, though. Not at all. I mean, yeah, sure, compared to this comic he is, but usually he keeps hinting you on what the horrible truth of that particular short story will be in such a way that he'd never actually have to say it out loud, and then he always WRITES IT OUT IN HUGE LETTER TOWARDS THE END EVEN THOUGH YOU FUCKING UNDERSTOOD IT SEVERAL PAGES AGO
 

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My point is that although it is always quite obvious where he's trying to lead the reader, he still has a habit of suddenly springing dramatic action stuff at you when you expect the entire story to be about suspense. As in Mountains of Madness, where two guys spend three quarters of the book stumbling around creepy ruins looking for clues of an ancient nonhuman civilisation and then BAM! Shoggoth.

So no, not "subtle" in the way you use the term, but I think he was good at building eerie suspense in his writings without having to go into details about unholy rituals.
 

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Enjoyed the read, but the art was completely inappropriate (and shit). Fourteen (Chicken George) is much better :smug:
 

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Elwro said:
But I found one thing disturbing: why is there a dome over the city?
Yeah. What the hell are the domes about?

They're anti-pollution domes. I don't think they're actually important to the story aside from hinting at a parallel universe or the future for the setting, but since they appeared in the original Courtyard short story (and are mentioned very briefly in the comic adaptation when Sax is faxing stuff to his superiors) Moore probably felt they should feature there as well.

Vaarna_Aarne said:
Nah, it happens when he needs a quick buck to pay his taxes

Again, not strictly true. Moore has said time and again that he doesn't half-asses stuff even when doing them just for cash. Here's a recent, very specific quote:

[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/jul/25/alan-moore-league-extraordinary-gentlemen:tf9f333d]Alan Moore[/url] said:
I finished Neonomicon five years ago. The artist (Jacen Burrows) did a very good job but it took him a long time. That was something I did when I was in a very bad mood, just after having parted company with the mainstream comics industry. And finding that due to the lateness of payments I was badly in need of a few thousand pounds to settle a tax shortfall. Having said that I don't do anything just for the money. I really did give it everything that I got.

They asked me for a horror story. They had gone out of their way to say that I could go as far as I wanted. And I thought I'll do exactly that, I'll do a horror story that is really horrible which has got sexual elements in it but perhaps not in a titillating way. It's one of the most genuinely unpleasant things that I've ever written, but I stand by it. It's a good horror story that touches on some very unpleasant things. As a horror story should do
 

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I'm still going to argue that he didn't put out his best, considering how good the America's Best Comics he'd made just prior to it had been.
 

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Rad said:
I never thought Lovecraft was that subtle, though. Not at all. I mean, yeah, sure, compared to this comic he is, but usually he keeps hinting you on what the horrible truth of that particular short story will be in such a way that he'd never actually have to say it out loud, and then he always WRITES IT OUT IN HUGE LETTER TOWARDS THE END EVEN THOUGH YOU FUCKING UNDERSTOOD IT SEVERAL PAGES AGO

He was trying really hard to imitate Poe plot-wise. Like, for example compare The Facts in the Case of M. Valdemar by Poe to a Lovecraft story, Poe was just really good at bringing everything to a head in a few moments and LC wasn't, but LC loved Poe and tried gamely for the same thing many times.
 

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Don't forget that there's that one Lovecraft story that's fan fiction of Masque of the Red Death.
 

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Zomg said:
Rad said:
I never thought Lovecraft was that subtle, though. Not at all. I mean, yeah, sure, compared to this comic he is, but usually he keeps hinting you on what the horrible truth of that particular short story will be in such a way that he'd never actually have to say it out loud, and then he always WRITES IT OUT IN HUGE LETTER TOWARDS THE END EVEN THOUGH YOU FUCKING UNDERSTOOD IT SEVERAL PAGES AGO

He was trying really hard to imitate Poe plot-wise. Like, for example compare The Facts in the Case of M. Valdemar by Poe to a Lovecraft story, Poe was just really good at bringing everything to a head in a few moments and LC wasn't, but LC loved Poe and tried gamely for the same thing many times.

Yeah, I agree. Lovecraft came up with some cool stuff, but his prose and story pacing is mostly a pale copy of Poe at its best.
 

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Yup. Masque of the Red Death is pretty awesome.
 

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...So this is pretty much Alan Moore's equivalent of 'Holy Terror!'?

Except he may not actually take this seriously.
 

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So, is there any more to the story or is that it?

Also, any more Cthulu porn out there?
 

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