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Vapourware LOL ELECTRONIC ARTS: The EA Thread

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Dexter, Mar 5, 2013.

  1. Drax Arcane

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    Nah, give it to MCA's one-man studio.
     
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  2. conan_edw Learned

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    Can't they just re-open Lucas Arts and give the license for whoever has a good pitch which would actually create a competition instead of EA being lazy fucktards
     
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  3. Black Arcane

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    It'd be LA just in the name anyway.
     
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  4. Assisted Living Godzilla Savant

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    But Lucasfilms want to be lazy fucks too. It's more work than they seemingly care to do to license their properties out to different developers and publishers than it is dumping Star Wars on one publisher.
     
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  5. Dexter Arcane

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    Same genius that did this brilliant interview regarding Battlefield V during E3: http://archive.is/stpUA
     
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  6. Tehdagah Arcane

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    "On the [women] in Battlefield, this is something that the development team pushed."

    Had to be a swedish studio.
     
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  7. FeelTheRads Arcane Patron

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    Jesus, whenever someone from EA says something it's like listening to a robot trying to mimic humans.

    It's like they all take intensive courses in marketing bullshit.
     
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  8. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    That first interview is a no-brainer. Of course they want to expand new markets and push for new audiences. It makes them more fucking money, which is what this business is all about. It's annoying as shit of course, when decisions are made against your smaller audience for the greater one, but why we always act surprised or offended I have no idea. Welcome to the real world, welcome to how it has always been and always will be. Even if GLORIOUS COMMUNIST REVOLUTION comes the State-run EA propaganda machine will still focus on mass-market appealing simplistic bullshit. You can't escape it.

    Support companies making Command & Conquer inspired incline and stop whining.
     
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  9. Oracsbox Savant Shitposter

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    Some general pisstaking out of shitty EA
     
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  10. Black Arcane

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    Possessive vs plural is hard.
     
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  11. :Flash: Arcane

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    As is possesive and plural vs. third person form of a verb.
     
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  12. Dexter Arcane

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    Both sides of this argument seem to be missing the point and make retarded arguments that basically come down to "it makes them fucking money", from one side we have posters like this stating it, from the other side you have YouTuber's complaining that EA wants to make money, as if that would be an inherently bad thing:


    When the actual argument to make is that exploiting a franchise with an established fanbase and a multiple-decade long hallowed history, having put out over a dozen titles over said timespan for a quick cashgrab similar to their mobile "Dungeon Keeper" game that might or might not work is a very stupid business decision. It might (or might not) lead to some quick cash, but you'll essentially destroy the franchise that way and it loses its value and brand recognition. The proper way to rape a franchise for ultimate profit is the way Bethesda does it, by taking a beloved franchise, extracting some of the core components that were beloved and gave it its atmosphere and making it a shooter or Multiplayer game. EA could totally do this and try and put out properly designed Open World FPS (like Far Cry) or Multiplayer shooters in the C&C universe, they could turn it into Halo and maybe produce a few games on the side to throw a bone to and placate the original fanbase and keep them in line (New Vegas). They could potentially grow the franchise this way, heck they could turn it into a movie franchise, C&C was always a bit FMV-heavy. Instead, EA being EA with their alignment of "Stupid Evil" while solely relying on their Sports franchises (FIFA/Madden) to dig them out of any other retarded business decisions they might make: https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2017/10/10/fifa-remains-eas-bread-and-butter/ decided to make a mobile game that makes it clear they don't seem to appreciate what they are sitting on or shows any respect for the IP. It only has the "C&C" name in it for marketing purposes and otherwise this newest product has the integrity and merit of selling toilet paper or stale bread.

    Destroying long-existing franchises you acquired for short-term profit is not how you do smart long-term business or the most money, it's just stupid. (See Mass Effect, Medal of Honor, Need for Speed, Ultima, Wing Commander, Dragon Age, The Sims/Sim City etc.) It's like DC Comics or Marvel taking Batman or The Avengers and licensing them for casino games, making it known that they're now related to casinos and gambling because they could get a few million instead of creating and putting out dozens of Blockbuster movies, games and also cashing in on merchandising and action figures.
     
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  13. Cross Savant

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    Bethesda's success had very little to do with 'extracting some of the core components' from the original Fallout series. Or do you think that the dozens of millions of people who bought Fallout 4 played Fallout 1/2, games that sold 100-200k copies back in the day? Modern Fallouts are succesful because Bethesda turned the series into Elder Scrolls with guns.

    Unlike Fallout, Command & Conquer was hugely succesful back in the day, so exploiting its brand recognition for a low-effort mobile game, while despicable, makes way more sense. What doesn't make a whole lot of sense is your idea of turning the series into a console FPS. Since C&C was always primarily a PC franchise, it holds very little appeal or name recognition for the console crowd.
     
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  14. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    That cuck Yea is annoying with his bitching,he is even a retardera fan :roll:. Still the C&C mobile shit is no surprise at all,EA are masters of fucking themself over. Another game that we all knew is long dead,meh. It is not like anyone buys EA shit outside of the sport fans.
     
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  15. Deathsquid Learned

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    Is the mobile market still viable and lucrative in 2018? I kinda thought that stream of revenue has been dwindling for the last few years, was I completely off?
     
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  16. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    DavidBVal would know.
     
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  17. Dexter Arcane

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    Are you saying Fallout doesn't play after a Nuclear holocaust anymore, there's no Vaults, radioactivity, Pip Boy/Vault Boy/Vault Jumpsuits, Power Armor, Super Mutants, Ghouls and Deathclaws etc. don't exist? Are you saying they didn't try to keep to the general "mood" of the setting, keeping a similar Retrofuturistic design, Americana, pseudo-sarcastic B&W documentaries, playing the same type of classic music etc.?
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    In your mind, why do you think they acquired the franchise in the first place? Wouldn't it have been a much cleverer move to just brand it "The Elder Scrolls - In Zeh Future™ - WITH GUNZ!" if that is all it's about? After all Elder Scrolls has brand recognition, why not turn it into a WARHAMMER/WARHAMMER 40k thing according to your own logic? :lol:

    So wait, they didn't pick Fallout because it had a unique and easily recognizable feel to it and mascots and things that made it stand out and are easy to market (Vault Boy/Power Armor/Vault Jumpsuit), but because it's "Elder Scrolls With Guns". But you admit that C&C was more successful and popular, that it has more brand appeal, but that somehow, because it was a PC franchise... unlike Fallout it somehow makes a lot of sense to waste the IP and people's memories on a throwaway mobile game they could have branded literally anything instead of trying to take core components and rebrand it for console audiences, according to you?

    You gotta untangle your thoughts some more, we're getting into "use Batman to market condoms even though he's one of your best-known/popular and easily recognizable characters/brands" territory here.
     
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  18. Deathsquid Learned

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    Gotham's greatest protector is here to protect YOUR Dick Greyson!
     
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  19. DavidBVal 4 Dimension Games Patron Developer

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    Hard to say. It has been very profitable to me (and still is), but you can't extrapolate to big companies. Their spending is probably much higher than mine, but their income is, as well, thanks to pay2win schemes. Things can go either way for them.

    I can tell you it's a goldmine for indies that want to do a serious effort and offer a honest payment model.
     
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  20. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    Would YOU say it plays anything like the originals? Don't be purposely ignorant.

    There's a solid point to be made that Command & Conquer has too much "hardcore" gamer cache to be wasted on a mass-market mobile attempt, but you're doing a shitty job of making it. Also I still disagree, because I think that cache is largely old and very PC focused. If EA were Paradox or even 2K then I think there might be a stronger case there, but EA is alllll about the mainstream cross-platform money. All they care about is business model charts and bringing in new users who pay frequently through online-focused games. They have literally zero interest in relaunching Red Alert as a great PC RTS with a reasonable budget like 2K did with turn-based Xcom. Zero. Interest.
     
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  21. Tehdagah Arcane

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    Or maybe C&C isn't viable for big-budget productions anymore? Fallout 3 was successful so it makes sense to invest in the franchise. Also people would've complained even more if EA made a shooter. It would like if Age of Empires 4 was a Dark Souls clone.
     
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  22. Drakron Arcane

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    I read that if your game is not in the top 100 downloads, its not turning a profit but this was in relation to The Sims Mobile that EA been trying to push for a long time now but they inevitable end up being discontinued and replaced by another title. But I suspect this is more they put a lot of money into those titles and then expect high returns, in Command and Conquer I suspect its kinda like what happened with Wing Commander were they put out Arena for the XBox Arcade. It will just end up forgotten likeTiberium Alliances, remenber that one? you know the F2P Browser that requires a Origin Account to play? It didnt end with Twilight you know ...
     
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  23. markec Twitterbot Patron

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    There was already C&C shooter and it didnt get this kind of hate.

    I do believe that a AAA Battlefield: Command & Conquer would have been a good business decisions. Even if few Battlefield fans played C&C games it is still a recognizable brand.
     
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  24. Black Arcane

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    From what I remember C&C: Renegade got a fair bit of love, not hate.
     
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  25. Tehdagah Arcane

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    It was a spin-off, released back when the anti-shooter sentiment didn't exist in the gaming community.
     
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