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Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. Elfberserker Liturgist

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    Oh boy! A Big wang adventure!
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  2. Akkudakku Arbiter

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    A for the Gaiden vote, might be Even Better More TM!
     
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  3. TOME Cuckmaster General

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  4. Nevill Arcane

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    Lambchop,

    We are not in a disagreement on what to vote for currently. We are not in a disagreement on what we think about zhang manxing and why we think that way. We are not in a disagreement about the characters' motivations, either. In fact, we are using the very same arguments which are just phrased a bit differently.

    So far the only point of contention is whether we think it is 'meta' or not to acknowledge zhang's luck.

    You said that what you've seen was enough for you to affect your decision making process. But do you know anything about zhang manxing that our character also does not know? Everything you've learned about his supernatural vitality, you have observed through our character's eyes. Not from GM's side commentary, not from some interludes - you've seen it in the updates themselves.

    The only thing Jing didn't witness is his own death by aphrodisiac, but he got to see BJ in the same predicament instead, teaching him the very same lesson.

    If that is enough for you to base your decisions on, why would Jing be oblivious to it?

    Compare it to the DEMONZ, where the only things pointing to our possession were two failed saving throws and an ending that will not happen for another hundred years. Meanwhile, all Jing knows is that some guy tried to confuse him, messed with his memories somehow, but ultimately failed and is now dead. As far as Jing is concerned, the case is closed and the Sword Demon is no more. He certainly does not feel the urge to collect ALL THE SWORDS (in fact, he gives them away), and nothing seems out of the ordinary just yet.

    Now, do you see why one is 'meta' and the other is not?

    I would not say it came to him effortlessly, as being 'lucky' would imply. He had to work for it. Hard.

    Maybe having to fight for something other people find natural is a testament of bad luck in itself.

    Edit: I almost forgot about this:
    I would not have called it 'luck superpowers', but I would notice his uncanny ability to get away with what he does and fuck up everyone who tries to kill him. I would ascribe it to some higher narrative purpose that requires him to stay alive, and would have adjusted my behavior accordingly.

    Resulting, effectively, in the same thing.

    It wasn't out of the kindness of my heart that I didn't want to kill him in Qingcheng, you know? I just believed it would not be worth it - just like it was not worth it two times before that. I don't even remember if his luck was even mentioned at this point, and I thought we would be able to kill him for sure.
     
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  5. ChumBucket Augur

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    Please forgive my ignorance, but could someone give me some background on this? I have no idea what a Big Wang adventure is.
     
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  6. Nevill Arcane

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    Neither do we.

    But judging by the mention of their junior apprentice, it is LORD Zhang's coming of age story. My body is ready.
     
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  7. treave Arcane Patron

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    Debbie Does Dallas except with more kungfu.
     
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  8. ChumBucket Augur

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    Ah, I thought there was a possibility this was a refernce to an update in a previous LP, or a non-cannon update that I missed. Thanks. :salute:
     
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  9. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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    A-lah.
     
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  10. Kipeci Magister

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    Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire
  12. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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    objection! *slams hands down on the desk* cue Phoenix wright victory music...

    Busted. So according to this, if you didn't have the meta knowledge about the luck stat (which the character does not know for certain exists), you would use OTHER meta knowledge relating to this being a narrative (which the character is certainly not aware of). Your reasoning, bro, is meta as fuck. :troll:
     
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  13. Nevill Arcane

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    You got me, bro.

    In the tongue of the Old Ones, they call me The Guardian Of Meta. No decision is considered without consulting the character's sheet first, no reasoning is given without implicitly pandering to the 'Dex secret desire for MORE SWORDS, no choice is made without conspiring with the DEMONZ to make us both reach their perfect ending. There in no Power but the Narrative, and OOC updates are its prophets.

    All of the rerolls were carefully planned actions, for without the first one we would not have learned that Bai Jiutian was a girl, which would make us forsake visiting Mount Hua. Therefore, it was essential for us to die for the first time to make it to the gourge, whereupon we had to die for the second time to ensure that the 'Dex would continue mashing its WQS button in any out-of-the-ordinary situation - which, in turn, brought us together with the DEMONZ.

    There can be no escape, there can be no salvation. The ending was set from the very beginning. The serpent have finally bit its own tail.

    Now that you have learned my darkest secret, I have no choice but to have you dealt with.

    It is for the peace of the world, you understand. Don't take it personally.

    Henceforth I shall endeavor to convince the 'Dex to go full homo and make you leave this LP in disgust and despair, never to return.

    ...you only have yourself to blame, you know?
     
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  14. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Very punny.
     
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  15. ChumBucket Augur

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    I realize I have forgotten to vote: A.
     
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  16. Jester Arbiter

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    Will go with gaiden B.
     
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  17. treave Arcane Patron

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    A - 5
    B - 6
     
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  18. treave Arcane Patron

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    “Are you not hot?” The bearded Taoist looked at the boy with mild concern. Summer in Jiangdong was hot and humid, and wearing all-black under the sweltering sun did not improve conditions any. The boy stared back at him sullenly, beads of sweat rolling down his brow. “No. A true martial artist knows that a calm mind keeps the body cool. I got this.”

    “Really? I would take a good straw fan any day,” chuckled the beggar, fanning his whiskered cheeks with a tattered example.

    “I wouldn’t call that good. Now, shaving is the best way to keep cool. Monasticism is not without its merit,” smiled the bald monk enigmatically.

    “Isn’t that what you told the young lady at the last brothel, when you asked if you could shave her unmentionables?” grinned the Taoist.

    “I didn’t see you complaining,” retorted the monk.

    The boy only rolled his eyes and sighed as the adults continued to bicker good-naturedly. No one understood him or his pains. A drop of sweat found its way into his eye, and he blinked. Life was suffering.

    ***

    The four of them travelled to the lair of the notorious villains, the Five Freaks of Jiangdong. The Five Freaks had been running wild all over the region, raping, looting and murdering as they wished. The government, still recovering from the civil war between the princes, had no choice but to approach the various sects for aid. Only a few had heeded the call, but the Five Freaks had proven to be far more formidable martial artists than their reputation first suggested.

    “Nice place they got here,” muttered the beggar sarcastically. “The skulls are an especially great touch.”

    “Yes. It is marvelous, isn’t it?” agreed the boy wholeheartedly.

    “We will need to have a word about your taste in decorations one day,” sighed the Taoist.

    “I’m a true martial artist,” replied the boy as he wiped the sweat from his face. “Death is nothing unfamiliar.”

    “Were we like that when we were his age?” wondered the monk.

    “I remember you spent most of that time chasing skirts,” said the Taoist.

    “At least I chased unmarried ones, mind you,” retaliated the monk. “Remember that trouble you got into with the prefect?”

    “Prefect Xiu?” asked the beggar. “You mean, that incident in Ningxia? Was that your doing?”

    The Taoist had the decency to look slightly embarrassed. “It was consensual.”

    “Well, the lesson to take from this all,” lectured the monk wisely, “is that we will have to bring the young one to a brothel. For... broadening his experiences.”

    “I tried,” said the Taoist. “It did not turn out so well.”

    “FIVE FREAKS OF JIANGDONG! I AM HERE TO CHALLENGE YOU!” shouted the boy suddenly as he stepped forward into the valley, impatience showing in every fiber of his being. “COME, SHOW ME YOUR SKILLS IF YOU DARE!” His brave roar shook the leaves and scattered the birds.

    The men sighed.

    “Looks like you have failed to teach him patience,” commented the beggar.

    “Not my fault,” muttered the Taoist and the monk simultaneously.

    Then a maniacal laughter flooded their ears.

    “Who dares trespass upon the territory of the Five Freaks?” shouted the five freaks in question as they leaped out of the bushes.

    “Hey, they’re calling themselves freaks,” whispered the beggar.

    As befitting their name, there were five of them, all freakish in nature. There was Da Man, who looked exactly like an enormous bun with his pasty white skin and spherical body; Er Mo, a furry, growly thing of a man; San Ta, who had two enormous clubs in lieu of hands; Shi Ti, with strangely elongated legs that left him towering over the others, and Wu Men, a spindly, dark woman carrying a large door on her shoulders.

    “Wait,” said the Taoist as he stepped forward, putting a hand on the boy’s shoulder. “Don’t do anything rash.” His gesture is shrugged off rudely as the boy ran ahead to confront the Five Freaks.

    “What is this? It is a boy that wants us?” growled Er Mo, fangs bared from between his hairy lips.

    “Hm, he doesn’t look too bad…” Wu Men crawled towards him, grinning from behind her door. “Little boy, if you don’t run off home, I’ll make you my new toy.”

    “You can talk after you have tasted my raging claws of the eagle!”

    The boy swept his long hair back, his lips curling at the disrespect that they showed him. Offended, he crouched down into a fighting stance, preparing to give the Five Freaks a taste of his prowess.

    ***

    “Eh, they weren’t so tough after all.”

    Er Mo slumped forwards, his internal organs crushed beneath the beggar’s palms. Sighing, the beggar took out a gourd and began to drink.

    “Who… who are you?” croaked Wu Men, lying on top of her smashed door. San Ta’s clubs had been shattered and Shi Ti’s stilts snapped. The Five Freaks had never met such a humiliating defeat before: their leader, Da Man had rebounded off the Taoist, up into the sky, and had not yet come down.

    “Wang Zhengchong of Wudang.”

    “Fangzheng of Shaolin.”

    “Qi Liuwu, newly of the Beggars’ Sect.”

    The four Freaks gasped in surprise despite their injuries.

    “W-we didn’t know! Forgive us!” cried out San Ta, kneeling before them.

    The boy crawled to his feet, cradling his broken arm, and staggered towards his masters. He tried not to let the pain show on his face, but it was hardly unnoticeable. “Are we going to put them to death now?”

    “I’m not sure yet,” Wang admitted.

    “Why is that?” The boy was surprised. Were these people not known evildoers? Did they not attack him?

    “You started the fight.” said Wang, as if reading his mind. “And they were going easy on you.”

    The boy flushed. “But what about their crimes? The people they killed? Look at these skulls!”

    “I hate to break it to you, boy, but these skulls are fake, you know?” Qi Liuwu tossed one over to the boy. The youth caught it, turned it over in his hands, and frowned. Was it fake? It seemed real to him. “If you have not seen a real one before, I guess you wouldn’t really know,” continued Qi.

    “But-“

    “They were never trying to kill you. In fact, I expect their crimes were highly exaggerated.” Wang looked towards the bushes. “You should stop hiding,” he called out. Just then, a group of children and elderly people ran out, crying and wailing.

    “Please, good masters! Please spare them!” pleaded one of the aged women as she threw herself in front of the four Freaks. “They were only trying to protect us!”

    “That’s how the world is nowadays, it seems,” snorted Qi Liuwu, entirely unsurprised. “Raid a few rich granaries out of desperation to save your village from starvation, and you become the worst criminals that the land has ever seen. How many times has it been, now?”

    “The Five Freaks are the sixth case thus far,” said Fangzheng, standing besides the fallen Wu Men. “My temple’s prohibitions forbid me from touching women, but I will make an exception just to help you out,” he said, reaching out to support her. The woman was surprisingly easy on the eye if she was not attempting to be creepy, but of course that would never factor into the monk’s decisions, and for that matter being a celibate monk of course he would not be picky about women because he was not supposed to have any in the first place, and he certainly isn't going to have any now, or so he would say.

    Wu Men's gaze softened as she looked up at the gallant monk.

    “Something needs to change,” mused Wang Zhengchong. “The Eight Sects need to step up and do more. While the court is still unable to carry out its duties fully, we should take the initiative to aid the people through these tough times.” He turned to the boy, who was looking quite sullen. “Do you think that is a good idea?”

    The boy turned away, glaring at a nearby tree.

    They beat him. They were going easy on him. They never intended to kill him. Out of everything that had been said, these were the words that stuck in his mind.

    “So, you mean we should spare them?”

    Wang smiled. “Yes, that is the lesson I was going for. We must always consider the subtleties of a situation.”

    “I have to agree,” muttered the boy. The epiphany had been a long time coming. “After all, they will be a good gauge of my new strength in the future. I lost, but that was only because I am weak.”

    “That was not what I was going for-“

    The boy grinned a feral grin at the four Freaks, silencing them with his sudden bloodlust. “One day, I will return to visit. Train yourselves for that day.” He turned away dramatically.

    Why else should he practise martial arts, if not to understand its secrets? Day in, day out, all he heard was about how martial arts should be used for the good of the people. He knew his masters were lenient compared to others, and he understood why they would want to use that power to help others. He had tried to put on the façade of a ‘true’ martial artist, seeking to follow in their footsteps and attempting to justify his thirst for strength in the name of righteousness.

    But now he realized that such foolishness was not him at all. This defeat has shown him that.

    He did not lose because his cause was less righteous - if that was the case, his masters should not have fared much better.

    He lost because despite his superior skill and knowledge of martial arts, the Five Freaks were fighting not only for their own lives, but for the people of their village. They had a greater determination and understanding of their reason. That, and there were five of them against one of him. But as a true martial artist, it should not have mattered.

    He lost because he was not being true to himself.

    To live on the edge. To grow stronger. To pit himself against the powerful. The desire was all there was - there was no need to justify anything... it would only hold him back.

    One day his path would part him from his masters. He would learn all he could learn from them, and when they no longer had anything to offer him, he would seek new challenges. He would stop at nothing, regardless of what names the jianghu called him.

    Perhaps, one day he would even find someone he could impart his knowledge to, becoming a teacher himself and completing the circle.

    He believed that that was what he truly desired in life.

    Then, Da Man fell back out of the sky and landed on him.
     
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  19. Baltika9 Arcane

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    D'aww, he's so precious.
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  20. Nevill Arcane

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    This is going to become a habit, isn't it? :lol:

    I don't know how I feel about our master being such a tryhard back in the day. :?
     
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  21. Esquilax Arcane

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    I see you fools have decided to vote for listening to a tale of blasphemous slander against Lord Zhang, rather than the true account of the Southern Maniac's teenage years as told by Brother Cheung.
     
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  22. Nevill Arcane

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    The true account of Master Zhang's teenage years could only have been recounted by LORD Zhang himself.

    Shame upon you all!
     
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  23. Akkudakku Arbiter

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    Y did it stop?:(
     
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  24. Elfberserker Liturgist

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    Oh Master Zhang, you are such inspirational troll for us all. Who would have thought that our badass mentor was such battle enthuastic emo.
    We still indeed have much to learn from our master about ways of unorthodoxy.
    :codexisfor:
     
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  25. Sunnmøring Novice

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    I think that's the most infuriating cliffhanger I've ever seen.
     
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