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I just noticed that our SoH got upgraded too. Nice.

 

Oh btw we got all swords!
Wonder if we are on level of Sword saint.

 

Well, fuck you Shun.

B.

 

I think the missing eunuch is hanging around Maniac Island waiting to provide leverage should we choose B. Shun is a ruthless bastard playing a long game. He doesn't trust us so completely not to keep an ace up his sleeve.

Anyway B seems the more interesting choice.

 

Well Shun it was cool anf all but you just got more corrupted by power then Jing by DEMONZ. End of the line old friend.
B

 

It is a misconception that the power corrupts. Shun had it planned since when he didn't have a smidgen of power he wields now.

Nah, it was always a part of his nature. He planned the murder of his own father two years ago, too.

He was always ruthless.

That is not the problem, however, the problem is that he lost the ability to correct his course somewhere along the way, and in all likeness will order the death of the only man who can point out how big of a mistake he is about to commit.

 

B

Also, if we're in the epilogue, can we find the divine astrologer now?

 

We missed the chance to do so after our two year training period. And besides, Lady Ji told us that it wasn't up to us whether we would see him or not. It's fate if we see him, and fate if we never encounter him.

 

IMO if you're voting A, you need to turn in your LORD Zhang Jue Appreciation Society membership card and beg for His mercy.

Shun is maybe a bro (I think he cares about us, but he also sees us as a pawn), but hoes < bros < Master Zhang.

 

Reasonable, but unfortunately the Emperor seems pretty set on a purge despite knowing all the problems it will cause by destabilizing the country, though you can at least control somewhat how that goes with A.

Blame the DEMONZ.

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Goddamnit, Shun is a genius idiot. I can't believe he just snatched defeat from the jaws of victory like that!
So Yang Xue and Zhang Manxing were his catspaws to eliminate the sects and anyone else he didn't like? Explains how Shun conveniently defeated Yang Xue as well. It explains a lot of things.

In fact...

treave said Shun was going to use a bunch of experimental rockets and cannons in the Huashan summit.
Shun was know by members of a sect noted for their alchemical expertise. He also aparently used explosives in the Island.
Interestingly, Shun wants to destroy the Pugiistic Sects.

Guys.
Guys...
GUYS!
GUYS GUYS!

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SHUN DID HEIHU VALLEY!
SHUN KILLED BIG WANG AND IRON SHAFT!

Hell, Shun may have manipulated the Fire Cult somehow into starting that dumb turf fight.
Shun would've never have any chance to suceed as long as the Frathouse was around.
In fact - Remember the tournament, when someone was trying to blame Zhang Jue's apprentice for murder of sect disciples in order to get the Frat House to kill Zhang Jue? It was Chanfeng's sect under someone's orders, and then they were eliminated by the BDS, which was under Gao Ying's service who was under Shun's service.

Shun was trying to get our master killed!

The whole "trial of Yao" thing? Also a trap to kill as many pugilists as possible. We already know the whole manual madness was Shun's doing.

IT WAS SHUN ALL ALONG!

Voting B
Shun is a traitor.

 

When I get the ability to brofist, I'm going to have a pretty huge backlog to correct here. Treave is a true BRO.

Now, looking at the situation, I can't help but go with A. This information isn't making Shun look great, but I wouldn't want to plunge the nation into civil war just as it's beginning the start of a golden age over this. Consider: what harm do his proposals actually do? The sects are really, really overpowered. The orthodox ones generally stay within the rules... except for when they don't and are corrupt anyway, but there are also plenty of unorthodox groups that are incredibly distasteful. Over time, we're going to drift apart from the sects/new ones will be founded that don't align with our goals, and they will be a problem if they're building on the established knowledge of the pugilistic world rather than having to figure everything out from scratch. That's a while down the line, though-- with Jing's help to moderate things from Shun's 'they will die' stance, Shun is willing to let them continue as they do but without the passing down of the pugilistic techniques. That's the only option which allows us some input into the process. If we attack, it's civil war time and other pugilists looking to Jing will be inclined to follow suit as he's a very influential figure. This will lead to a mutual war of annihilation that will bring misery on us all. If we go along with this, I don't doubt that some will be reluctant to follow along but it shouldn't be too big a problem to handle; besides, if folks are so indignant/reliant on passing down their martial arts, we have receptive audience and halls at the convenient landmark of a fire temple outside of the country and the reach of his laws. I would be fine with taking in those bros.

As a political group, the sects as they are are just bad news. Some mentioned that they were balancing against the Tang when that's badly ruled and thus the sects are good to have, but in the Golden Age of Pugilism when the central government had barely any control and the influence of the sects was at its height, everything sucked. That was with the Frathouse Bros heading up the sects, let alone less savory folks. The fortunes of the realm were immediately related to the competence of the main government; the most that the pugilistic community did was to stretch out the amount of time that the Tang reigned in power by making sure that taxes were going in from the couple of places they were strong enough to protect, and a lot of the unorthodox ones were doing more of the pillaging! If we make the central government more easily able to rule and command its own resources, it can still suck if it has a terrible head, but that was going to be the case anyway. Killing the emperor and causing a succession struggle among his incredibly young children and their no doubt slimy and ambitious potential regents will certainly not make the pugilistic world any better; the very fact that Jing can do this to throw everything into disaster when the influence of the pugilistic sects is cut should demonstrate clearly why the sects shouldn't be holding that crazy amount of power.

 

Definitely. And Shun knows just the right way to handle it:

I am not going to murder Shaolin who can not exist outside of the martial arts. I am not going to murder Song Lingshu who have abandoned her childhood friend for the sake of the legacy her father had left her. What about Bai Jiutian who had hid her nature for 10 years and lost her kid to have a chance at commanding a sect - how willing would she be to listen to you? 'Reluctant to follow', my ass.

Don't kid yourself, war will be inevitable in both cases. Except with A we will be killing our bros who had nothing to do with this stupid idea.

 

I am swayed. Homolove for Lord Zhang takes precedence over homolove for Shun. Flopping to B.

Also, The Brazilian Slaughter has an insane-sounding yet completely plausible conspiracy theory. HEIHU VALLEY WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!! SHUN KILLED BIG WANG!

 

So the finale will be a demon-powered duel between Jing and Shun?

Can't wait.
Say, copper and runes are kinda Khorne's thing. Did Shun get possessed by a Bloodsthirster by any chance?

 

A duel between brothers? Only if Shun was actually a reincarnation/possessed by an aspect of Huangdi.

 

They're a monastery and they have many other religious duties to attend to as well as more menial tasks in addition to the martial arts that they practice. Do you think that they're eager to start up a war with the government solely over the power to transmit their martial arts to new generations?

There's nothing stopping them from leaving China, and we happen to have a conveniently located temple and surrounding area in a foreign country outside of Shun's jurisdiction where they can camp out. With Shun on the path that he is, it's obvious that there's no way that their dreams will be able to be pursued as they might have wished in China; I think that with Song Lingshu's focus on justice she would rather not plunge the country into civil war for the privilege. BJ, who knows, but I'm thinking of the way that will get most of our friends out alive. Most of our friends are not on the level of the Central Hero, and besides that you already admit to believe that they are imprisoned.

The war is rather one-sided. Introducing our strength to the weaker side will prolong the conclusion and make things bloodier, but the time of the pugilistic sects in China is ending, if for no other reason than that our rebellion would indicate that the sects are to remain a problem with the imperial system. A will reduce the bloodshed by far.

I really doubt that all of the sects value the potential to teach students later as enough to rebel against the Emperor. Some, sure. All, no.

We can leverage and negotiate with Shun if we work with him, but the moment blows happen that's all gone and we lose control of the situation.

 

Well, even if he isn't (I wouldn't put it past you, actually), we're as good as brothers anyway.

 

Haha, no. Their have literally nothing more to do than to train and pray. Their martial arts are integrated into their religious teachings. They attain enlightment by honing their martial skills. Without them, there is no Shaolin.

I do not know if they would be willing to wage war or not, but if you want a sect with a considerable military power and a hundreds years old history simply to cease to exist, you should not be surprised if they react that way.

Sure, let's send a whole lot of people into exile when they do not even know what they did wrong and when xenophobia and rejection of foreign ways is highly common. I am sure they would not try to protect themselves from this punishment they do not think they deserve.

Yeah, you just have a minor hurdle to overcome. You must explain to her that to murder those people who resist to submit to an unwarranted persecution is justice. And I bet it won't stop with the rebels themselves, but will also affect their families as well. Isn't this the fate of those who go against the Emperor?

Shun is committing an atrocity here, and you are asking Lingshu to comply. Good luck with that. Especially considering the next part:

Yeah, apparently when someone needs to take hostages to make you do something, that is a sign that their deeds are just. That is a very convincing argument when deciding what is the right path to pursue.

So let me get this straight. You are advocating that a complete and utter annihilation of one side is actually a more humane and merciful way of doing things compared to the struggle? Geez, genocide is really an all-purpose solution.

I wonder why did we not just surrender master Yao to the bloodthirsty sects and were determined to get him out by force, if need be. That would have been a pointless conflict, after all.

How about not trying to murder a whole bunch of people, not trying to send orthodox sects to die at the hands of Zhang Jue, the Fire Cult, and when it failed, Yang Xue? How about not involving thousands of innocents in the manual hunt? How about a peaceful coexistence? Would it not be a better solution?

Oh, right, Shun can't have that. Because... because, uh... Right. Just because.

The sects are not a problem with the imperial system. Shun is the problem. He is the one who decided there absolutely has to be a war and would not step back.

Helping him with that is just... ugh. Reprehensible would be the nicest word I can come up with.

 

Didn't you know?

 

Actually, now that The Brazilian Slaughter have mentioned his theory...

It makes perfect sense.

- Changfeng and her crew were meant to incite the orthodoxes to go after Zhang Jue and perish there. After that Changfeng was supposed to be terminated.
- The orthodoxes who attacked the Fire Cult at Wufushan were also likely meant to be slaughtered. (I never undersood what was the purpose of this - until now)
- What about Minamoto pirates? Weren't there powers in the Court interested in that the conflict would not get resolved peacefully? And weren't the minor orthodox sect meant to die at the hands of much better prepared pirates?
- Then there is the Heihu Valley and the subsequent Black Tiger Valley where we united with the orthodoxes to push Ahura back.
- And now Yang Xue and zhang manxing who were meant to kill us all - in Xiangyang, or at the Summit, - but instead one have found his death at our hand, and the other took his fury on the innocents of Chang'an.

Perhaps we were foiling all of Shun's plans since the very beginning? Then it is only fitting that we cross out his last one as well.

Yeah, but, see, there are actually two problems - Shun, and the rest of our friends. And I am too lazy to go across the country hunting all these people. I am just being time-efficient here.

Also,

 

SHUN DID 9/2!!!

HEIHU VALLEY NEVAR FORGET!!1!!1
:kwafuckyeah::russia:

 

I just hope demonz dont fuck over our friends in the end with either option.

Still Shun needs a proper ass kicking for 9/2! Nevar forget!!!!

 

A - 6
B - 13

 

Cant wait for teh clusterfuck