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Can we detonate the flame somehow? Or what about if we tell her we love her and ask her to become mortal for a time and live out a life with us? Then we find a way to imprison her. Assuming such a way exists of course. And that she would be dumb enough to fall for it.

 

That is trying to make sense of it all. If any of you have a different interpretation of the character and the plot, feel free to suggest it.

Sometimes rebelliousness grows stale. At some point you have to stop tearing things apart because they aren't good enough and start building what you think is better. Otherwise you just become a force of destruction.

Now, here are good things about Lambchop's plan:
- The millenia year old grudge with the Heavens is settled. Our fight have brought suffering to the millions of innocents already, but did it ever brought anyone joy? What have Chi You really achieved for all the destruction he caused? This may end here. As Shun would have said, nothing goods comes out of opposing Heaven.
- We will have to accept the law of Heaven as the only law. We will have to admit that we are not above it. According to that law, the Tang dynasty needs to die and be replaced, but the country and its people will live on. Shun and his kin can keep their lives, if not their positions, and there need not be a war. That's the future Shun wanted for his people, though he thought to make it a reality by his own hands.
- We will have 10 years to see to our affairs and to say our goodbyes. That is as good as a lifetime. According to Shun, even eight seconds would have been enough.
- And yes, we will have to sacrifice our life and our personal achievements in the mortal realm to make it all possible. That is in line with our personality that seeks to do right by others at a cost to himself.

The bad things were already listed.

I guess what is left is for us to decide. To take it (if Nuwa even accepts it at all), or to let everything go to waste just to make one final act of defiance.

Depends on how much this defiance is worth to you, I suppose.

The Ultimate Ean's Choice Tally - sex or death (open) The Ultimate Ean's Choice Tally - sex or death (close)

Baltika C (Baltika) > C (Lambchop's)
Azira B
Nevill C (Lambchop's)
Elfberserker C (Cao'er's edition)
Lambchop19 B > C (Lambchop's)
profreshinal C (stab Nuwa)
Akkudakku D
Rex Feral D
Fangshi C (Lambchop's) > A
ERYFKRAD D
Tigranes D
Kipeci C (call Ahura Mazda) > D
Grimgravy D
Jester C (respawn Shun)
Ifeex !D
Kz3r0 C (call Ahura Mazda) > B
Absinthe D
Kashmir Slippers B > C (Lambchop's)
The Brazilian Slaughter C (his own)
Esquilax C (Lambchop's)
Sunnmøring C (Baltika) > D

B - 3 (1)
C (Lambchop's) - 3 (7)
C (stab Nuwa) - 1
C (call Ahura Mazda) - 2 (1)
C (respawn Shun) - 1
C (The Brazilian Slaughter) - 1
C (Baltika aka Sleight of Dong) - 2 (0)
C (Cao'er's edition) - 1
D - 5 (8)
!D - 1 (0)

 

I still think C) is the ultimate answer. There has to be some way to satisfy everyone.
Here's The Brazilian Slaughter's Improved C
- First, we sincerely praise Nuwa for coming to help us and tell her we understand her need and wish to help everyone involved in this. Then, the proposal:

- Tang Dinasty to be deposed, peacefully as possible, Jing doesn't become Emperor but we can make whoever they want Emperor for the good of the people and according to Heaven's will. Jing and Shun prepare a few things then Shun and his family vanish suddently. Shun and Jing can do any dirty work to pull the transition seamlessly.

- We plead to Nuwa's infinite mercy to lessen his penalty from death to stripping Li Shun of all his rights and honours as Emperor and noble, for ever. Shun and his descendants to be humiliated by becoming adjutants of our bloodline, forever. Emphasis on how Shun gets to be the manservant of his former manservant. She can also add some additional penance as well.

- We tell Nuwa that her offer is very tempting... but she has us at a disadvantage. Nuwa knows us, but Jing doens't know Nuwa. There's also the fact Jing is unsure if he will be pleasing to the Goddess and desires to make sure both of them will live happy forever. This is not a lie, Jing never had someone of such a great level as a lover. So what we do is... a courting period on Earth where Nuwa can visit Jing anytime and have fun and change her mind, if she so desires. She can always... sample the goods if she wants to, like right now. It is only logical that the Goddess gets a demonstration before she can regret it. Jing also has many duties on the mortal planes he would like to finish - no loose ends. Also, we really want to make her proud in the next Huashan Summit, but that's optional.

Everybody wins - Heaven gets their new dinasty, Nuwa gets Jing forever and ever, Shun survives after being punished, Jing can fulfill his earthly duties.

 

Sorry, man. There are two choices by now - Lambchompian C and D.

I do not think we can split the votes any further, and I do not think there is enough time left for anyone to consider your proposal.

If you want, you can argue with Lambchop to include any of your points, but I seem to think that your plan is less plausible than his.

 

The only real difference between the proposed Cs and B seems to be:

A) Delayed ascension
B) Guarantee of Jing's descendants forming next dynasty.

Remember that in B Nuwa already offers to kick the problem of dynastic succession a few generations down the line.

 

Also, Nuwa won't have to call in favors to extend Tang rule and they get what they want right now. That has to count for something, right?
And we are giving ourselves to her right here and right now. That has to count for something, right?
Right?

 

I'll be voting Lambchop C since it's neck and neck between those two choices.

 

Brazilian slaughters new plan still won't work for one reason: he has the tang clan surviving. According to Nuwa, if they continue to live the universe is doomed, so they must die within a few generations at most. I don't believe that any choice we can make will have them living. Unless we can somehow figure out a different plan, which doesn't look likely as half of us have given up to the point of suicide... Other than that his plan is very similar to mine.

 

Pretty much. The codex just wants a few years to say goodbye - and rub the fact that we are emperor in everyone's faces - before sacrificing ourselves for the greater good...and freaky snake lady poon.

 

It is a difference between making the Heavens themselves abide by their laws, and calling in a favor to exploit a loophole because the Gods can do what they please.

I don't know how much say we will have in the Heavenly matters, but I want them to comply by their own rules. I hope it might count as the first step.

Don't know if it helps anything at all, but I'd like that to be our intention at least.

We may be not above their rules, but they shouldn't be, either.

 

treave :

Just feel the need to point out that Lambchop's C has Shun's dynasty being replaced within that ten year period and apologize for that Disappearance Of The Golden Emperor thing. Hopefully that will count for something.

 

I don't see where they're breaking any laws of theirs.

 

Well, didn't they say it's a rule for the dynasties to change every now and then, and that Tang have overstayed their welcome?

They are willing to 'postpone' it if we please the Goddess, though. To me, that sounds like bribing the judge to get a convict a less severe sentence.

No, rules are rules, and they won't be bent.

Besides, the old dynasty will have a few generations before they collapse. A new dynasty may have longer. It might be better for the country and its people that way.

 

flop to B>C Lambchop

 

Think of it less as postponing and more of making the transition between dynasties more peaceful and gradual, which itself requires time to accomplish.

Besides, at this point they're already well within their rights to waive the direct meddling clause and rain divine judgement upon the entire country over the Tang's unnatural reign, like the days of old.

They have been remarkably restrained, actually.

 

And why is that?

 

Oh. I thought they still intend to make it as bloody as every other transition. I didn't think they cared much about the exact mechanism.

That is why I felt it would be easier to do so now, given that Shun and Jing are so close that a bloodshed might be unnecessary.

Still... can they make our kids Emperors without all of this coming to bite us in the back? Because it is kinda cool. We may even keep Gao Ying and Xiahou You as their advisors.

 

Chi You still needed to be set up to repent, of course.

 

So they cared enough for us to hold off the whole shebang? That's what I call family.

 

Hm.

If we want to make our children royalty, then wouldn't it be better if Jing supplants Shun as Emperor, and then ascends to Heaven? This time for real.

Sort of a mix between A and B. Except Shun gets to live.

Lambchop19?

 

The concession on letting your descendants run the new dynasty is acceptable. That's the only one. She's not about to let you run off before kissing her foot and swearing an eternal binding geas of loyalty. It's gonna be hawt.

 

What does that geas binds us to, exactly?

 

Her.

 

Heh.

Yang Xue's and Khan Bulun's descendants run the country, while the Wudu cult advises them from the shadows, all of them bound by our blood.

Yeh, that's totally the ending I would get behind, even if it makes Jing kiss Nuwa's feet.

 

Can we kiss something else instead?