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Grimgravy

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Man...tough choice. But since I voted to kill the emperor, I wont vote to split the party to keep him alive.

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Wasn't the urge present to estimate Zhangs current strength potential? Now you know, a 2 nine-headed snake or dragon would beat kill him.
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Expect that if Quilins survived Jing will be able to stabilize her and should be able to sneak quite well while caring her.
 

Rex Feral

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After Shun becomes Emperor some heads should start rolling. I mean the prince's and their mother's heads. Though I trust Ying might make sure they all meet an untimely end.
 

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Awww, thinking of some company for the madman already? How considerate of you.
 

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And to avoid further complications, all of his sisters must be sent to Zhang Jue's island as his handmaidens.
 

ERYFKRAD

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Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Beating the fuck out of demons is well and good, but how fares the Master against horses? It's very important.
 

Rex Feral

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Wasn't the urge present to estimate Zhangs current strength potential? Now you know, a 2 nine-headed snake or dragon would beat kill him.
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Expect that if Quilins survived Jing will be able to stabilize her and should be able to sneak quite well while caring her.

And what if the madman attacks and we have an option to distract it while Cao'er helps Qilin escape and then escape ourselves? If Qilin is injured we might not both make it out alive without Cao'er.
 

Baltika9

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Because it's so easy to heal others in pitch darkness with a Megadeth stage prop chasing after you, amirite? Qilin is an extremely agile and quick girl, if falling with Cao'er is survivable, then Qilin definitely made it down there without any problems. And so will we, most likely.

Besides, no way in fucking hell are we fighting this guy alone: he can fight blind, has greater neiggong and strength than we do, and is totally bonkers to boot. Coe'er would only slow the otherwise quick party down.
 

ERYFKRAD

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Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
If he's blind, then his other perceptions are probably enhanced, should we try to overload them or something?
 

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Because it's so easy to heal others in pitch darkness with a Megadeth stage prop chasing after you, amirite?
He is not quite chasing after you, though.

It is a matter of splitting the team, which I am opposed to.
 

Rex Feral

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Because it's so easy to heal others in pitch darkness with a Megadeth stage prop chasing after you, amirite? Qilin is an extremely agile and quick girl, if falling with Cao'er is survivable, then Qilin definitely made it down there without any problems. And so will we, most likely.

Besides, no way in fucking hell are we fighting this guy alone: he can fight blind, has greater neiggong and strength than we do, and is totally bonkers to boot. Coe'er would only slow the otherwise quick party down.

The scenario I had in mind is not to fight him, but more like taunt him, dodge his attacks and evade him while Qilin, aided by Cao'er, escapes. Then we can run away as well. Sure fighting in the dark would be troublesome, but I have a feeling we'll be doing it either way.

In my scenario, if Qilin is hurt or worse unconscious and the monster attacks us, we're pretty much fucked. We either ditch Qilin and get away, or try to kill the monster which is a bit harder than trying to dodge him.

Outrunning him seems like the only way we can get past him.. And it'll be a lot harder if we have to carry Qilin with us. Dodging and evading seem like would work since he is in a frenzied state. Attacking him seems unadvised since he could block even Ying's super fast attacks.
 
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Or, you know, just try to talk to him. He has some semblance of consciousness left, enough to identify the Emperor and only target him and his escort.

Now that we are away from Taisheng and are no longer protecting him, there may not be a reason to fight. We'll see how it goes.
 

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In that same scenario of yours, where Qilin is injured and Cao'er is with us, we are also running the risk of injuring ourselves to soften her fall, which she wouldn't be able to heal quickly in pitch darkness without meridians. Next, taunting this dude is a horrible, terrible, idiotic idea: he just collapsed the whole upper level with just one blow to the walls, he knows this place by memory and can fight blind. No way in hell are we taunting him to buy anyone time. Lastly, a healthy Jing has enough strength (8) and speed (9) to hightail it out of the damn place with Qilin on his back. She's not all that heavy, if we could perform acrobatics and stealth in Qingcheng School with Cao'er, we can do so here.
Again, this is assuming Qilin got injured in the first place, which I simply don't think is true.
 

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If it turns out that we can talk to him we could use a guide through the tunnels. Without Gao we could wander for ages in these tunnels but the prisoner probably knows them fairly well. Perhaps we can aid one another? We will have to see but it would be better not to endanger Cao'er as well.
 

Rex Feral

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Or, you know, just try to talk to him. He has some semblance of consciousness left, enough to identify the Emperor and only target him and his escort.

Now that we are away from Taisheng and are no longer protecting him, there may not be a reason to fight. We'll see how it goes.

Madman diplomacy? :D

But you make a fair point, if the emperor is the attractor, as treave says, why would it attack us now that he is no longer with us ?
 

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Since we chose to do the horror flick and go through the goddamn tunnels... why anyone thinks that splitting the team is a good idea? It's a staple for a reason.
 

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Or, you know, just try to talk to him. He has some semblance of consciousness left, enough to identify the Emperor and only target him and his escort.

Now that we are away from Taisheng and are no longer protecting him, there may not be a reason to fight. We'll see how it goes.

Madman diplomacy. I think you may be on to something here...

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Baltika9

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Since we chose to do the horror flick and go through the goddamn tunnels... why anyone thinks that splitting the team is a good idea? It's a staple for a reason.
Not if she stays with the secret police and GTFOs to get us help from the outside, while we keep the distinguished prince occupied with a civil conversation.
Not like there's more than one here...is there?
 

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Nevill said:
Since we chose to do the horror flick and go through the goddamn tunnels... why anyone thinks that splitting the team is a good idea? It's a staple for a reason.

Because this is an action flick not a horror flick and the hero has to save the girl by himself?

Anyway, dividing the group serves several practical purposes while dragging her down with us just adds one more thing for Jing to worry about.
 

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Cao'er would only follow us or Qilin, if we let her go. She has no reason to be loyal to current emperor or shu, but she has plenty of loyalty towards us and Qilin. Furthermore I think that splitting party is always a bad idea, even more when said splitting isn't planned. Cao'er seems to be decent fighter and great healer, which we need to survive without support and we don't exactly know what kind of condition Qilin is.
 

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Elfberserker said:
Cao'er would only follow us or Qilin, if we let her go.

If she jumps back in after us it will still give us time to properly land instead of shielding her with our body and she will have more time to prepare her landing and we may be able to catch her.

But really if both choices led to Cao'er following us then the choices would probably be presented differently. We just have to tell her that we need her to look after the Emperor and get help for us, she will listen and that way someone will know we are in the tunnels. I mean if we drag her down too then Gao could just leave us all down there, and if we can not find a way out we are screwed.
 

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In that same scenario of yours, where Qilin is injured and Cao'er is with us, we are also running the risk of injuring ourselves to soften her fall, which she wouldn't be able to heal quickly in pitch darkness without meridians. Next, taunting this dude is a horrible, terrible, idiotic idea: he just collapsed the whole upper level with just one blow to the walls, he knows this place by memory and can fight blind. No way in hell are we taunting him to buy anyone time. Lastly, a healthy Jing has enough strength (9) and speed (10) to hightail it out of the damn place with Qilin on his back. She's not all that heavy, if we could perform acrobatics and stealth in Qingcheng School with Cao'er, we can do so here.
Again, this is assuming Qilin got injured in the first place, which I simply don't think is true.

I kinda considered Cao'er would figure her way out of this place with her high perception, though I didn't account on how will we get out. I also consider the madman rather slow and clumsy, although strong and resistant. We can't fight him that's for sure, but he didn't seem particularly fast or agile, so dodging his blows or evading him doesn't seem too hard. Then again I pressumed the madman some ordinary monster that attacks only small, defenseless groups, so I might be wrong on this one too.

Nevill said:
Since we chose to do the horror flick and go through the goddamn tunnels... why anyone thinks that splitting the team is a good idea? It's a staple for a reason.

Because this is an action flick not a horror flick and the hero has to save the girl by himself?

Anyway, dividing the group serves several practical purposes while dragging her down with us just adds one more thing for Jing to worry about.

This I agree on. I would hate to put her into danger. Though if the madman goes after them and the emperor, she would still be in danger. If Ying would take her hostage as a leverage against us (though I doubt it) she would be in danger. If she jumps after us and gets hurt in the process, she would be in greater danger than if we would just fall together with her.

What I also don't like is that we don't know how deep is the pit. We might get hurt from a little to rather badly should we fall with the intention of shielding her.
 

Baltika9

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In that same scenario of yours, where Qilin is injured and Cao'er is with us, we are also running the risk of injuring ourselves to soften her fall, which she wouldn't be able to heal quickly in pitch darkness without meridians. Next, taunting this dude is a horrible, terrible, idiotic idea: he just collapsed the whole upper level with just one blow to the walls, he knows this place by memory and can fight blind. No way in hell are we taunting him to buy anyone time. Lastly, a healthy Jing has enough strength (9) and speed (10) to hightail it out of the damn place with Qilin on his back. She's not all that heavy, if we could perform acrobatics and stealth in Qingcheng School with Cao'er, we can do so here.
Again, this is assuming Qilin got injured in the first place, which I simply don't think is true.

I kinda considered Cao'er would figure her way out of this place with her high perception, though I didn't account on how will we get out. I also consider the madman rather slow and clumsy, although strong and resistant. We can't fight him that's for sure, but he didn't seem particularly fast or agile, so dodging his blows or evading him doesn't seem too hard. Then again I pressumed the madman some ordinary monster that attacks only small, defenseless groups, so I might be wrong on this one too.
Until you throw in one detail: fighting completely blind against the Terminator. We can't really dodge well in those conditions, and one hit is all that he needs. Besides, this is unfamiliar ground to everyone except him, so even with 10 PER, Cao'er wouldn't know where to go. Best case scenario is either her or Qilin have good luck, but then we're left in there alone and fucked.
 

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