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Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    A. Best have her keeping an eye on Gao.
     
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  2. MystiKnight Novice

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    A. You scared me after all the talk about death flags, so save the potential waifu and fall on your own. Heck, if she does fall down or something, she'll probably land softly on Jing or something silly like that.

    Also, do we have any more of that steel silk? It would be great to go full spiderbro as we fall.
     
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  3. Rex Feral Liturgist

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    Yup, we're fucked.

    A - in case we toss her up, she MIGHT come back after us, possibly with backup. Or she might just stupidly jump after us, hurting herself in the process, but I refuse to believe in her stupidity.

    If we go with B we might get hurt in the process by shielding her fall and she would be down there with us, in danger. Though if she is there she could help us with her perception to defeat the monster and in case Qilin got there somehow and is badly wounded she might help.

    Wait if the madman wants the emperor, wouldn't it be safer for her to be with us?
     
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  4. Nevill Arcane

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    "Let's go through the tunnels", they said. "What can possibly be down there?", they said. "LET'S DO EET!"

    Though hiding in the bottomless pit would probably bring us to the same spot. Of course, the madman could have been nicer to fellow prisoners than he is to the Emperor's escort.

    I am not sure about A or B. If Qilin is down there, she might need medical attention. Hell, we might need medical attention.
    I can easily see Jing doing A to protect Cao'er, but that does not bode well for our chances. We might start relying on our friends more.

    B. Let's find our way out together.
     
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  5. asxetos Augur

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    I knew it was too good to be true.

    Voting A.
     
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  6. Nevill Arcane

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    You don't say? What could have possibly lead you to this thought?

    Yeah, right.
     
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  7. Rex Feral Liturgist

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    Well I guess whatever we would have done, something would have gone wrong.

    Go in the tunnels without the emperor? -> Monster appears because he's hungry.
    Try to stash in the tunnels ? -> Monster finds us and classifies us: breakfast.
    Try to stash in the imperial agents HQ? -> Grand Eunuchs find us and imprison us.
    Go with the emperor through the north gate? -> Qilin, Ying and 12 imperial agents misteriously dissapear. A search for them is issued.
     
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  8. Nevill Arcane

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    Yes, I'd like to ask treave about other possible permutations. Would they impact anything, and what exactly?

    The prisoner is after the Emperor or his servants. What would happen if we hid with Qilin in the bottomless pit (though this may be spoilery) in A1? Would we met him anyway? Would Qilin be able to find her way out of the Palace? How? Or would she end up being apprehended and we would end up with another problem on our hands (after all, if there is no strife, there is no story)?
    What would A2 lead to? B? C with different characters?

    It was a freeform choice, so I have no idea if the consequences differed, and how.
     
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  9. treave Arcane Patron

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    Nah, the Emperor is the attractant. Something else happens if you don't transport him through the tunnels. You can probably guess what.
     
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  10. Nevill Arcane

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    Hell if I know. Gao Ying goes apeshit on Jing? Stray eunuch agents stumble upon us?
    Ying does not have an answer to his question and smothers the old man?

    If Jing weren't there in the tunnels, but stayed with the Emperor after transporting him out, would it still happen?
     
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  11. Rex Feral Liturgist

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    Yeah sure, and I bet the other people that were attacked by the monster were also smuggling emperors through the tunnels.

    Well if you are saying that A1 would have only led to Ying killing the emperor and disposing of his body, and everyone else getting away safe, I'm already preparing for a roll back

    Since we might rollback treave might not want to tell us all that.
     
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  12. Nevill Arcane

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    Wat. No rollback until we are dead. And maybe not even after.

    What I can't get is why. The only thing that differed is that we exchanged words. Why would they affect him so?
    He certainly does not consider our influence on Shun to be positive, and does not share our perspective. Did he really reconsider, or did he never intend to kill the Emperor in the first place?
     
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  13. treave Arcane Patron

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    Uh, so you're very sure that they weren't? Or that the Emperor wasn't involved one bit?

    Seeing as you actually voted in favour of the last one, it's rather unsporting of you to ask for another rollback. It would be fairer to give that opportunity to those who didn't vote for a rollback. If I'm inclined to give one at all.

    When he talked about killing the Emperor he was mainly testing Jing's thoughts. He would actually do it, though, if the Emperor had woken up at any point of the journey. Since Jing's rationale - regardless of voter intent - is for Shun's sake and run mainly by emotion, he then comes to the conclusion that Jing is not good for the prince. A confrontation would go down if the madman doesn't interrupt. As for why he did not leave you to die, you did help him out (even if you didn't mean to) by tying up the monster. Jing didn't notice, but he was actually one move away from being killed.

    In most of the other scenarios you'd have had to fight him, though who won, or if there would be any deaths, is up in the air.
     
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  14. Nevill Arcane

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    Rollback! ROLLBACK! I wanted to strangle the fucker since our BDS meeting!
    Nah, I am kidding.

    But one of the reasons why I am taking Cao'er down with me is because I don't want to leave her in his care, and especially not when he knows she means so much for us. He is ruthless enough to use her as a leverage against us, somehow.

    Wait, what? He just told us what his priorities were, and gratitude, along with other common human feelengs, rated pretty low on this list. He told us he'd do everything for Shun, he is a fanatic that we were 3 years ago, and yet he saves the person who endangers his monarch by merely continuing to exist because of a personal favor? Either he is a total hypocrite, or he is more confused about his feelings than a 13 year old teenager.
     
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  15. treave Arcane Patron

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    Well, I understand your confusion, but explaining this would be a spoiler for further interactions with Gao Ying, so I'll let you think what you think. His actions were meant to be surprising and unexpected.
     
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  16. Anabanana Augur

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    B. We need her help and I'd really rather have her where I can see her if she's going to try and come after us anyway.

    Amazing updates. I'm guessing that this old man is somebody that Li Ming ordered to keep there, and that's why he's still bearing that grudge after all these years? Glad we chose this route, this is a fascinating plot twist.

    The Disappearance of the Golden Emperor, though... damn. I could almost hear the seagulls cry, treave, that's how beautiful it was. OH DESIRE~
     
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    I'm not sure whether to vote A or B, other than we need to find Qilin after we fall (since that seems likely in both cases), and I seem to remember her falling in as well.

    Of course I wonder if that agility upgrade wouldn't have been enough to make sure we actually made it back up. Doesn't matter either way if it would have meant abandoning Qilin. And hey, Gao Ying owes us his life now, after we picked the spidersilk option.
     
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  18. Nevill Arcane

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    Damn, we should have sent him ahead with C1. :lol: The Emperor is a small price to pay to get rid of such an ally.
    Funny how everyone considers him 'their' man. Perhaps Shun is similarly misguided in his trust.
     
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  19. Tribute Scholar

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    I don't trust Gao Ying farther than Cao'er can throw him, but he's useful for now.

    I'm also deeply amused that Gao Ying considers "not a horrible ruthless bastard" to be "too soft to be a proper monarch". Has he missed the rebellion that's been fermenting in the country? We've had remarkable, once-in-a-century men like Xiahou Yu swearing themselves against the government because of the ruthlessness of the previous emperor, to say nothing of Luoying Manor.
     
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  20. Nevill Arcane

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    How is he useful, pray tell? What would you use him for?
    Really, he is more of a liability to us.
     
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  21. treave Arcane Patron

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    One step away from being considered Theseus mk.III, I presume?
     
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  22. Rex Feral Liturgist

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    I know, I know.

    I didn't like the whole kidnap the emperor plan from the beginning. Too much effort, too much trouble, and too many chances to fuck up or have someone dying on us. It's there where I would roll back, because I was strongly against it and despite all my arguments people still went with it for the lulz, and because Zhang would pat us on the back for it. Though things went better than expected.

    Also, great job at portraying Gao Ying, I really like his character. I'm kinda glad we didn't had to fight him, because of the monster.
     
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  23. Tribute Scholar

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    Well, for one thing, he's useful in that he grabbed us instead of letting us fall. Of course, we're likely to fall anyway, and knowing our luck Gao Ying will still consider it repayment for saving his life.
     
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  24. treave Arcane Patron

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    And boy will Zhang pat you on the back for it when you finally manage to find your way out of the tunnels. :troll:
     
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  25. Nevill Arcane

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    I have a nagging feeling Zhang does not like the former Emperor.

    Though it might make our little present to him all the more amusing.
     
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