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Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. Esquilax Arcane

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    Really, three basic weapons techs and traps, Absinthe? Why?

    I'd also like to clarify; the neigong boost only improves our END, AGI, and STR while we're using it. It doesn't make us able to cultivate that qi more safely.

    treave had just said that this would be the case. It hasn't happened yet, but if our neigong exceeds our END, then of course it would:

    He can confirm, but I took this to mean that a high END will mitigate the negative effects of our chaotic qi. I believe that the reason that we haven't experienced too many negative effects at the moment is because our level of inner strength does not exceed our endurance yet.
     
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  2. Absinthe Prophet

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    Because they're dirt cheap and good to know, but if we're gunning hard for an endurance boost, let me adjust it. How is this?
     
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  3. Nevill Arcane

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    Of course. Having more END mitigates bodily harm. Having more AGI mitigates the risk of being hit. Having more LCK mitigates narrative damage.

    Having more is better than having less. It is a good observation.

    What is more crucial about it than in +1 STR, +1 AGI, or in +4 Traps?

    Hey, traps are crucial, too! If Gao ying caught you in the net, all theEND in the world won't save you.
     
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  4. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Actually, yes it already has happened:
    If we want to go nuts with our physical attacks and punch the shit with all our might and speed, then we really must make sure are bones and muscles are up to the task. That was just a small taste of going above our limit, if we go into 10 STR/11AGI teritorry, we'd better have a natural toughness to go along with it. This is not negotiable for me.
     
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  5. treave Arcane Patron

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    By going nuts I mean like when you explode your qi (e.g. second Yunzi fight, 100 man battle) or other similar over the limit moves that harm yourself.
     
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  6. Nevill Arcane

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    That has nothing to do with the ability to handle your qi. That has everything to do with going against the opponent 2 tiers above you. Improve your leeching, improve your neiggong, and you'll be able to handle it just fine.

    I think 100 men nearly tearing our arm off and nearly cutting us to pieces had more to do with our lasting injuries than going overboard with qi.
     
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  7. treave Arcane Patron

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    Remember how his neigong couldn't be used for a while? Internal injuries, which are qi-inflicted, and the bulk of that he did to himself with that last explosion.
     
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  8. Absinthe Prophet

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    Treave, this seems a good opportunity to ask so, could Cao'er teach us the Yuhe Finger?
     
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  9. Elfberserker Liturgist

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    I agree with Esquilax and Baltika9 that endurance boost is non negotiable.

    What happens when we can't use our neigong like after our 100 hundred man battle? With natural endurance it stays, while neigon endurance gous out of window. Nautral endurance stays unless we injure ourself that it actually drops permamently or temporally.
     
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  10. treave Arcane Patron

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    Yeah, she could. It's 3 months, and I'll add it in when I get the chance.

    Edit: It's 35, so as not to mess up the numbering.
     
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  11. Nevill Arcane

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    It is not worth 5 months of Jing's time.

    We have achieved far more in half a year than +1 stat can ever cover.
     
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  12. Tribute Arbiter

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    Do we need sword training with zhang AND the minamoto sword tech for sword boosts? Do those stack? If not, I'd drop sword training with Zhang and just stick with Minamoto sword and Yunchang sword training.

    And we need artistic training somewhere in there. Not budging on that after we've passed it up so many times.
     
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  13. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Ugh, I'm almost tempted to voting for a Clevian package, incorporating a stat boost to everyone of our stats. 10/10/10/10/10/10 should one day be ours.

    Only 30 months, and we'd be 9/5/6/8/8/9/1
     
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  14. Absinthe Prophet

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    If Yuhe Finger is a possibility, I might favor that technique over +1 Endurance. In that case, my two build options would be as follows:

    A) No Endurance, instead Yuhe Finger and another +1 Swords
    • 5 (+4 thrown, We really need a ranged skill by now)
      10 (+4 traps, lets get this over with)
      13 (+1 swords, we're in business)
      15 (+1 swords, minamoto tech)
      22 (+1 Perception for 1 month, fuck yes)
      25 (+1 to 3 physical stats for 6 months, also yes)
      26 (Qi absorption, other opportunities for this will be rare)
      35 (Yuhe Finger, fuck yes. Finger tech to devastate enemy neigong)

    B) Keep Endurance, dropping skills & tech for Yuhe Finger
    • ]13 (+1 swords)
      22 (+1 Perception for 1 month, fuck yes)
      25 (+1 to 3 physical stats for 6 months, also yes)
      26 (Qi absorption, other opportunities for this will be rare)
      30 (+1 Endurance, to use qi safely)
      35 (Yuhe Finger, fuck yes. Finger tech to devastate enemy neigong)

    20 months


    Which would you guys prefer?

    EDIT: See here for 2 year package.
     
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  15. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Esquilaxian Package.

    It's hard to know exactly how long to stay, but we know we want some training, and the difference between 12 and 18 months isn't likely to be too large given all major factions in the world now have new leaders and must recalibrate. But we don't want to stay so long that we miss the Summit, and we don't want to come out just before the Summit - we want some time to learn what has happened in the world, and not be late to the party.

    As for the actual upgrades, Esquilax is 100% right that we want our core skills and their necessary prerequisites improved. The neigong upgrade as well as Sword training is critical. The only thing I'm tempted by is 21, ZJ's new mystery tech, which would add 2 months...
     
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  16. Elfberserker Liturgist

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    I believe that they stack. You can look at the bottom part of the training update.

    Sword training is all around useful, but I am willing to negotate or flop if enough people gather around packkage that includes Minamoto sword tech, neigon training, endurance boost, improved reikan.
     
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  17. treave Arcane Patron

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    I can't guarantee Yuhe Finger is actually a healing technique in Jing's capable hands...
     
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  18. Tribute Arbiter

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    Absinthe: 13 is just +1 Swords. 15 is +1 swords AND a brand new foreign sword/saber technique nobody's seen before, all for the low cost of one more month. We should definitely be taking 15 or 16 over 13.
     
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  19. Absinthe Prophet

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    Tribute, I'm trying not to go over 20 months. Although we could just say "fuck it, 2 years of training time, 24 months it is" in which case sure. I'm also tempted to swap the naked +1 swords in A for Zhang's Mystery Technique.

    Treave, it should be a self-healing technique though, right?
     
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  20. Nevill Arcane

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    Absolutely. But END is no longer a prerequisite to our neigong development. If we want staying power, we are better off improving our leeching capabilities, which are unique.

    And seriously, thrown weapons?
     
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  21. Baltika9 Arcane

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    How about this:
    It is still 1.5 years, but we get kenjutsu and sabers instead of our Yuchang tech. The rest is as per the Esquilaxian package.
     
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  22. treave Arcane Patron

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    As long as he had pressure points, and had his qi's nature fixed, yeah. Zhang did the latter in his own way (not how Wang would have done it) but as a result you have no pressure points anymore. Yuhe Finger can't affect you. It'll still work on most anyone else, though.
     
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  23. Rex Feral Liturgist

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    Guys can we focus in becoming the best on one subject. I'd go with either 3 sword boost where we maximise our sword skill and gain 3 new techniques or the unarmed boosts.

    Also we should focus on learning things we can't learn from somewhere else.

    Like +1 Strenght (which we can earn basically anywhere) vs a sword technique only the minamoto can teach us.
     
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  24. Nevill Arcane

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    We can't go over +2, and +1 Unarmed is not as good as +2 Swords when facing BJ. Swords are a given.

    Exactly, stats aren't worth it.
     
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  25. Elfberserker Liturgist

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    I am willing to flop, if it gets enough support.
     
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