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Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. Baltika9 Arcane

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    No, almost everything here is great: Japanese kenjutsu with swords and sabers=win. Lord Zhang's unarmed techniques, like the Shouwang Claws, are also great. A mystery technique that he created while wrestling oni demons and fighting the Yamata-no-Fucking-Orochi? Even better.
     
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  2. kazgar Arcane

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    Could also be a technique he developed with ONE EYE.
     
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  3. treave Arcane Patron

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    He's going to raise that eye patch and shoot a qi beam out of it.
     
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  4. Kipeci Magister

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    Sorry, when you talk about focusing all of our efforts around one stat and that stat happens to be endurance I begin making a few assumptions. That, and a few posts you had earlier were saying things about greater endurance meaning opening up a greater stream of qi for Jing to use or something. Perhaps I misunderstood them. At any rate, Jing's qi leeching seems to be supporting him on this endurance increasing front rather well, so I'd rather not invest too much into endurance when we could instead use much of that time to increase the rate of qi draining to build it up faster. My build will have Jing as generally stronger even when his neigong blows out, and I just don't see how one point of neigong will make a world of difference as to how bad it'll be when that does happen, or if it will even be happening now that qi leeching is a thing.

    I would think that boosting neigong and increasing the qi absorption rate would synergize better personally, Jing can already grapple people if they aren't huge/ridiculously strong (something very much helped out by the strength training in your build, though) and I think breaking out of grips is an entirely different skill than initiating them. In fact, if he can't break out of them well it does kinda screw the person holding him in that he's stealing their qi anyway, so I get the feeling that people wouldn't want to hold onto Jing for long if he had the qi absorption boost anyway. If you upgrade one or the other, it still leads to the same agility score, I think.
     
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  5. Baltika9 Arcane

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    ...no bullshit?
     
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  6. treave Arcane Patron

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    Mystery technique, who knows?
     
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  7. Kipeci Magister

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    Half the techniques presented are experimental ones, the only one of which we tested against the sect it was intended to fight against in the alternate timeline turning out to be a rather unsatisfactory counter in itself. The other techniques are okay, but I think that being able to make a figure like the Guardian of Metal feel our blows as more than a sort of intense massage with the claws we've already got as well as any other of our attacks would rank over seeing the newest iteration of the claws.
     
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  8. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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    It's random. With Jing's luck it's more likely to be growing a dick out of his eye. (He came up with it while in Japan, remember? Japan.)
     
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  9. Baltika9 Arcane

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    ...no bullshit?
     
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  10. treave Arcane Patron

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    Mystery technique, who knows?
     
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  11. Esquilax Arcane

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    Excellent. The Eight Sects will know that we are such a lecherous, virile pervert that we even have a second phallus growing out of where our eye socket was. Man Tiger Pig is truly insatiable. It will also allow us to satisfy our harem further. Good thinking, Lambchop.
     
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  12. Baltika9 Arcane

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    That settles it. MYSTARY technique is going in.
     
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  13. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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    It would be quite the trick to pull out during a boss fight, wouldn't it? We just flip up our eye patch at the last second and they're all:
    :what:
     
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  14. Kipeci Magister

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    Would that technically be bestiality if we combined that with the Wudu animal taming technique?
     
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  15. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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    Qilin: "Is that a poisonous caterpillar in your eye socket or are you just happy to see me?"
     
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  16. Baltika9 Arcane

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    This is now about dongs.
     
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  17. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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    Please rename thread type to Anime/Harem/Dongs.
     
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  18. Esquilax Arcane

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    In Chinese characters.

    Attention BROS: Lambchop19, Anabanana, Tigranes, ScubaV, Nevill, Baltika9, Smashing Axe, TOME

    I think I have a winner of an idea for a 24 month plan:

    5) Thrown Weapons boost: Works really well with our spider silk technique, branches us out, and requires very little investment (1 month)
    13) Sword boost: All-purpose sword skills to stack with and synergise with one (1) technique of our choosing. Mandatory. (2 months)
    20) Yuchang Sword Style Technique: Improves our self-taught style further, and +1 SWORDS. A much surer bet than the Huashan Counter, which could be a dud. (3 months)
    22) Reikan boost: A fucking steal for only a month investment. (1 month)
    25) Neigong training: Our most dangerous asset as a fighter needs to be cultivated even further. Mandatory. (6 months)
    30) END boost: Perfect synergy with our neigong training as we can cultivate more of our chaotic qi without hurting our body thanks to a greater level of resilience. Combined with the neigong training, this is deadly. Another must-have. (5 months)

    This would be 18 months. But, with an extra 6 months, the obvious choice would have been to master our Unarmed skill. We could do that, but something treave said back during our encounter with Yang Xue struck my mind:

    This ability is nasty as hell. We have a focus on neigong above, but learning how to develop our spider silk ability and our qi leeching with the long-term goal of using them to leech qi for us would be amazing. We'd still probably be a bit of a ways away from being able to do what Yang Xue would have taught us, however.

    So, with an extra 6 months, we'd have:

    8. ‘Practice’ sleight-of-hand with Qilin... (Sleight-of-Hand +1, 1 month)
    24. Further improve your handling of Ruanhong Zhusuo, the spider silk threads. (2 months)
    26. Learn how to absorb qi from other people at a faster rate by ‘practicing’ with Qilin and Cao’er. (3 months)

    I understand that the +1 Unarmed for mastery seems like something that's completely worthwhile, but this appears like it could be more than the sum of its parts, especially with the heavy qi/neigong focus of this build. The only real trouble is that we'd still kinda suck at throwing and have poor potential in using the silk as a throwing weapon cause of our lost eye, this would be somewhat mitigated by our Reikan boost. Getting the +1 Unarmed could still be better for overall focus in that way.
     
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  19. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I'm generally down with your plan, but I'd trade 5) Thrown Weapons - 1 months for 21) Zhang Jue technique - 2 months. Or just throw both in. That's still an acceptable 19/20 months, and I really think it will be a cool technique.
     
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  20. Nevill Arcane

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    I'd say trade both 5 and 8 for 21 to stay within limits.

    We are improving the silk tech on its own.

    Otherwise, very solid picks.

    Improving stats is well and good, but we really need more techniques.
     
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  21. Baltika9 Arcane

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    As far as modules go, I am thinking of something like this.

    Main Modules:
    The Original Esquilaxian Package

    5- +4 thrown weapons.
    13- +1 Swords with Lord Zhang.
    20- Yuchang tech: +1 Swords, +Self-Taught style.
    22- Reikan: +1 PER.
    25- Neiggong: +1 STR, +1 AGI, +1 END
    30- +1 END.
    Total: 18 months, +4 thrown weapons, +2 Swords, +Self-taught style, +1 PER for Reikan, +1 STR +1 AGI +1 END for Yuanshi Hundun, +1 END permanent.

    The Original Anabanana Kenjutsu Package
    3- +4 Sabers.
    13- +1 Swords.
    15- +1 Swords, +Rare Minamoto Kenjutsu.
    22- Reikan: +1 PER.
    25- Neiggong: +1 STR, +1 AGI, +1 END.
    30- +1 END.
    Total: 18 months, +4 sabers, +2 Swords, + Rare Minamoto Kenjutsu, +1 PER for Reikan, +1 STR +1 AGI +1 END for Yuanshi Hundun, +1 END permanent.

    Kipeci's Unarmed Mastery:
    13. +1 Sword.
    14. +1 Unarmed.
    19. Shouwang Claws.
    25. Neiggong: +1 STR, +1 AGI, +1 END.
    26. Qi leeching.
    30. +1 END.
    Total: 25 months, +1 Unarmed, +1 Sword, +Shouwang Claws, +1 STR +1 AGI +1 END for Yuanshi Hundun, +1 END.

    Additional Modules:
    Raw Unarmed Mastery

    13: +1 Unarmed.
    Total: 6 months.
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    Unarmed Technique Mastery
    18: Chuzan Fist.
    19: Shouwang Claws.
    21: Dong from eyecocket/Lord Zhang's MYSTARY Surprise.
    Total: 6 months.
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    Supplementary Skills
    6: Practice art with Lord Zhang. +2 AS/2 months.
    9: Stealth training with Yorikawa. +2 Sneak/3 months.
    12: Educate ourselves on Scholarly Knowledge with Lord Zhang's library. +1 SK/1 month
    OR
    8: Practice Sleight of Hand with Qilin. +1 SoH/1 month.
    Total: 6 months, +2 Artistic Skills, +2 Sneak, +1 Scholarly Knowledge OR +1 Sleight of Hand.
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    Esquilaxian Qi Leeching Package
    8: +1 Sleight of Hand.
    24: Spider Silk Technique.
    26: Qi leeching.
    Total: 6 months, +1 Sleight of Hand,+Spider Silk, +Qi leeching.


    Personally, I am torn between Yuchang techniques and mastering the Minamoto Kenjutsu. That's unique stuff right there, nowhere else can we learn that, while the Self-taught style is, well, self-taught. With our sword skills at 7, we can improvise more moves in our travels.
     
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  22. Nevill Arcane

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    I think that approach covers it. It is better to think in 18 month package + 6 month increment terms. It is far much easier to decide the winner that way.
     
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  23. Anabanana Augur

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    Yeah, Yuchang tech is self-taught so we can do it whenever/wherever as long as we're still alive and in possession of the Yuchang Sword. We need to grab Minamoto now while we have access to them on the island.
     
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  24. Esquilax Arcane

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    I'd need to swap it out to fit in the 24 month constraint, because I'm right at the limit. I'd prefer not to swap out Throwing and Reikan because it meshes so well with an improvement to spider silk.

    However, for an Unarmed focus, maybe something like this (btw, I am not too invested in the Yuchang Sword technique, we can invest in Sabers + Kenjutsu instead as Anabanana proposed, it's quite similar and very good too, I just like the Yuchang Sword and would prefer to improve upon the style we've been working on for so long, but it's not that big of a deal). We'd just swap out 5 and 20 with 3 and 15.

    5) Thrown Weapons boost: Works really well with our spider silk technique, branches us out, and requires very little investment (1 month)
    13) Sword boost: All-purpose sword skills to stack with and synergise with one (1) technique of our choosing. Mandatory. (2 months)
    20) Yuchang Sword Style Technique: Improves our self-taught style further, and +1 SWORDS. A much surer bet than the Huashan Counter, which could be a dud. (3 months)
    22) Reikan boost: A fucking steal for only a month investment. (1 month)
    25) Neigong training: Our most dangerous asset as a fighter needs to be cultivated even further. Mandatory. (6 months)
    30) END boost: Perfect synergy with our neigong training as we can cultivate more of our chaotic qi without hurting our body thanks to a greater level of resilience. Combined with the neigong training, this is deadly. Another must-have. (5 months)

    Unarmed
    6. Practice art with Zhang Jue. (Artistic Skill +2, 2 months) OR 18. Improve your understanding of the Chuzhan Fist technique. (2 months)
    19. Improve your understanding of the Shouwang Mad Claws technique. (2 months)
    21. Attempt to learn a random new technique of Zhang Jue’s choosing, that he created from his travels in Nippon. (2 months)

    This is a tentative suggestion if we're looking to improve our current techniques rather than go for the blanket +1 Unarmed boost. I have to say I have a soft spot for the Artistic Skill since it could really pay off down the line, but 18/19/21 are more consistent with improving technique. Another option could be to swap out Reikan and Thrown Weapons for Zhang's mystery technique, then go for +1 Unarmed, which is possibly even better for this.

    Tigranes, if you really want to keep the option for Zhang's mystery technique AND the whole qi-leeching/spider silk setup I've got, you can swap 13 (+1 SWORDS) for it. I'm reluctant to change anything in that particular setup other than swapping out sword techniques because the Reikan, qi-leeching, Throwing and Spider silk improvements just work together so well.
     
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  25. Nevill Arcane

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    Well, the more you train, the less time 'down the line' you leave to yourself. If we want to take the martial arts seriously, we are better off improving them in a limited timespan we've got, not improving the means to improve them. Otherwise there is no end to this spiral.

    I am down with the modules Baltika9 listed.
     
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