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Speaking of Emei, if they come back for the yuchang sword, or we otherwise lose it, we'd probably lose the benefits of the self taught/Yuchang style? (though similar could be said for the wodao) Whether the Huashan counter works or not its still a new technique, and won't be limited by the sword we're using (so in a tournament situation for example)

Edit: I assume the Huashan counter works somewhat, it won't be useless, just might not work against Bai Level dudes.

 

Yeah, but if it doesn't work against Bai Jiutian's level, then what the fuck are we taking it for. The Minamoto Kenjutsu is practiced and perfected by samurai warriors on many battlefields, that is a surefire bet which is why I am thinking of going for it over anything else.

 

I also assume there's many more sabres out there than YuChang swords, so also of benefit.

None of your options give me 21 and 26 so i'm currently perplexed.

 

Let's take a look at the character sheet for the technique, as well as our fight with Yiling:

Now, this implies that the Self-taught technique is designed with the Yuchang Sword in mind, and obviously works best with it, but can be used with other swords, though of course the techniques aren't as effective. In any case, I don't think that we should be voting for something else on the assumption that we'll use the Yuchang Sword; if we aren't gonna use it, what good is it to us? Besides, I'd wager that the Kenjutsu techniques are probably more effective with our wodao. Different tool for different jobs and all that.

 

Main packages are built with END and neiggong, plus either Yuchang tech or Kenjutsu. There is the Esquilaxian Supplementary Package, which takes Sleight of Hand, Qi leeching and Spider Silk.

 

Well, I'm voting for my original package, of course, and to supplement it I'll add the following:

Anabanana's MAX UNORTHODOX Package
8. ‘Practice’ sleight-of-hand with Qilin... (Sleight-of-Hand +1, 1 month) OR 5. Intensive basic thrown weapons training. (Thrown Weapons +4, 1 month)
23. Learn Wudu Fushun: animal handling and rearing from Qilin. (2 months)
26. Learn how to absorb qi from other people at a faster rate by ‘practicing’ with Qilin and Cao’er. (3 months)

We will strike fear in our opponents' hearts with our eye-dong, grab them with our silk while they're caught off-guard, and then leech the fucking daylights out of them. If we're aiming to be a Great, we need to start cultivating a combat style that is unique to us starting now.

(Though if people are willing to go over the 6 month limit and swap 8 or 5 out for Zhang's MYSTARY technique bringing this to 7 months total I wouldn't mind either)

 

Oh hell no, we are not going over the voted limit and back into retardoland. And I think that we will be best served by getting a combat style rooted in a solid base, instead of adding every cool gimmick we can think of. For instance, improving our webs and SoH meshes extremely well with qi leeching, while animal taming is just a cool gimmick that we will have to work on extra to make it actually combat-worthy. We are getting to that point where we really must have a solid, thought-out main base before we branch out to more cool things.

 

Just voicing concerns that we could become too specialised, if our best sword technique only works well with one sword, if at any time we don't have that sword we lose a lot of the work we're currently putting into swordplay, ie if we're captured, or a tournament with fixed weapons, or some off the cuff battle.

Don't have a perfect answer, If i did i'd be suggesting it.

 

I might be recalling badly, but have we only used a sword once in a battle throughout the entire CYOA? (dual with songfeng?)

 

We're also putting a lot into neigong, though, which should work well as a base regardless of what weapons we use.

Alternatively, we could go with Esquilax's qinggong build to become more of a Yunzi-style fighter.

 

If we're going to be stupid and specialize further in silk, then there's no reason not to go with animal taming since that path will allow us to eventually be able to make more silk on the go rather than eternally depend on having enough money and proximity to the Wudu Cult to buy out their silk whenever we use up all of our stuff.

I don't understand what you're pulling if you're not even going in with the unarmed skill as a core part of what needs to be trained.

 

I'd rather become a Jing-style fighter.

Neigong is the unique attribute of the Adjutant. Why would we sacrifice it instead of embracing it? This is our triumph card!

 

I agree! That's why I want the neigong builds. Just suggesting alternatives for people who don't want that.

 

And yeah having a steady supply of silk will be good if we want to keep using it.

 

This is what I'm going for with Kenjutsu Package+Qi Leeching Package:
-We fortify our neiggong with an upgrade plus the +1 END stat boost.
-We fortify our sword skills by learning a tried-and-true Japanese Kenjutsu technique, and the Sword and Saber skills that supplement it.
- We improve our spider silk techniques, or SoH will allow us to weave even more intricate patterns, and the qi leech is the heavy hitter of the trio: we rope them in and suck them dry.

 

Basically, Spiderman.

Put me down for it. Unless we somehow manage to get back to 18 month builds.

 

All the skills that would've gotten Jing knocked out right away the last time he tried to use them, right. I have no problem against improving some of those, especially the neigong (except I'm against blowing even more time down the drain on silk, I created a monster when I flopped to that out of spite and campaigned for it) but not even bothering to knock Jing's unarmed stat up to master level is reprehensible.

 

We'd need to: learn the spider silk recipe, get lucky on a roll of four animals and get a spider and get the actual materials the Wudu use to treat the spider silk to make it as tough as it is. That's a lot of ifs and maybes for something we can get just by staying with Qilin. Not like getting that stuff through her will be difficult: if she's helping us get fucked in the ass, goes to Zhang Jue's island just to be with us and is head-over-heels in love with us, yeah, our supplier isn't going anywhere soon.

 

That was because they were underdeveloped. We bring them up to par.

Really, using unarmed technique would have gotten us killed in a duel with Rong Jr. We must abandon the dream of becoming an unarmed specialist.

That's where this train of thoughts leads.

 

You don't need to be restricted to the one animal if you put any effort in improving the skill (just get it killed like Xiaoqing if you don't like it, anyway) and I don't see why the Wudu Cult would hide their recipe from the husband of their heir if we stay devoted to Qilin.

 

Well, if we focus on swords, we'll be walking out of here with 7 unarmed and 7 swords (maybe 4 sabers) and that's very respectable. With another year until the summit and on our way to the Fire Cult's temple where Rob Halford, a Master of Unarmed almost on Lord Zhang's level, chills out, we will have more opportunities to raise it later down the line. For now, I want to focus on picking up stuff that is difficult to pick up and practice elsewhere.

 

Fuck fuck sake, I am not wading through all these pages of discuss. Have we decided on the time limit yet?

In any case, one option that is non-negotiable for me and that I find lacking in many presented packages so far is 34. It has a potential of making our luck suck a little less and it comes with no time cost, it just might lead to something interesting and dangerous happening. So basically it's a win-win situation as far as I'm concerned.

 

I have it on good authority that Wuxung has skill 8 in swords. That's just 1 better than us.
Of course, he has an advantage in techniques, but we have neigong, silk and another combat style to fall back to.
I'd say we are becoming a very versatile fighter while keeping a solid enough focus on the areas we invested in.

Agreed. Non-negotiable for me either. Jing can not be called a Legend until he bangs a goddess.

 

Good point about our supplier.

I think I might flop Eye-dong to Zhang Jue Nippon Mystery instead, since it's something that we can't get elsewhere.

I think 34 should be a separate vote, really, since it doesn't have anything to do with all the other options. Can we have 34 as a separate vote, please? Vote: Pray to the gods or Don't pray to the gods.

 

I'm actually thinking about making 34 a separate vote after we decide on thee time limit (polls close in 30 hours, we're following the two-day vote cycle), since it "doesn't" take any time and is such a divisive topic.

They wouldn't hide it, but we'd need to carry around the supplies to make it ourselves, and restock those supplies. Probably at the Wudu cult. And honestly, that sounds far too convoluted a process of getting lucky on a roll (killing your bonded animal is uncool, fuck that), always restocking on supplies and milking our poor spider for silk. And for what, a cool gimmick?