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Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. Anabanana Augur

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    Fucking atheists ruin everything.
     
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  2. Azira Arcane Patron

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    They're just scared that Jing might get an answer. :troll:
     
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  3. ScubaV Prophet

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  4. Tribute Arbiter

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    If you want the Kenjutsu technique so badly, why are you including Thrown training and not Saber training? We already have confirmation from treave that Saber training would improve this technique, as our wodao is intended for use as a saber, so that's what techniques built around it are designed for.
     
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  5. Jester Arbiter

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    Gadzilla

    Btw i wonder if we increase leaching ability of qi, will we be able to quicker negate qi used against us by opponent? Its based on our qi ability to swallow invading qi isnt it?
     
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  6. Ganymede Learned

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    I can dig this. Just chuck in Reikan and Yoohoo Finger and it's perfect. 28 months.
     
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  7. Tribute Arbiter

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    What, no sword techniques whatsoever?
     
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  8. Elfberserker Liturgist

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    I would like to present yet another package to fellow codexians. Criticism and suggestions are welcomed.

    Core technique improvement package:

    6. Practice art with Zhang Jue. (Artistic Skill +2, 2 months)

    18. Improve your understanding of the Chuzhan Fist technique. (2 months)

    19. Improve your understanding of the Shouwang Mad Claws technique. (2 months)

    22. Further improve your mastery of Reikan by training with Yoriwaka. (+1 Reikan PER, 1 month)

    25. Undergo strenuous neigong training to unlock your potential (Neigong +2, 6 months, Yuanshi Hundun now gives +2 to STR, AGI and END)

    26. Learn how to absorb qi from other people at a faster rate by ‘practicing’ with Qilin and Cao’er. (3 months)

    27. Focus on qinggong practice by running around the island with the tigers, naked. (Qinggong +2, 6 months, Kuanglang Step now gives +2 to agility and increased ability to shrug off grabs)

    Total time: 22 months

    This package focuses improving on what we already know, mainly our two unarmed techniques, Neigong, Qinggong and Reikan.

    Shouwang claws have served us well and I think we will use it a lot regardless what will happen, so I think it would be good investment to spend 2 months to improve it.

    Chuzan fist has been solid technique for us, even if it wasn't super awesome anti-wudang technique that we were hoping for. Neverthless it has served us well, despite the fact that it's rather low level currently and I believe that it will serve us better if we put efford to improve it. Would our strongest technique Weipon flying kick be nearly useful at lvl 2 to compared to its current lvl 8? Not of course! Like it or not Chuzhan fist is here to say and will be used, so I say lets improve it for we will use it.

    We also have rather unique Neigong and Qinqqong and both has served us well. Our neigong is strong and unique, but our Qinqqong has been very solid investment for us and we are only in skill level 4 in it. Furthermore only by Qinqqong training will improve our chances at escaping enemies grasps. We also have Unique opportunity to train our other Neigong skill, the leeching. In spirit of this packgage we can not ignore the chance to improve it and we finally can give Cao'er tasty of that fetching Jing even if we are "hurt" in proceed but it will be wprth it fellow codexians.

    Naturally that Reikan improvement is a must for such a low cost. Likewise Artistic skills will be helpful, if we find manuals.


    If we are going with 24 month limit then this package can still include on or two extra things:
    - Zhang mystery technique
    -Intensive Sword training with zhang
    - Saber and Throwing weapon training or two other basic weapon training.
    - Silk training
    -Animal companion training
    - one or two miscellaneous skill training


    If we are going to over 24 month limit, then We could focus on those tasty sword techniques.

    As always Criticism and Suggestions are welcomed
     
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  9. Anabanana Augur

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    Seems a bit of a waste to focus on an exclusive anti-Wudang technique AND another unarmed technique, since we already have high-level claws and high-level kicking to fulfill all our unarmed needs. Should probably swap that out for a sword tech or Zhang's mystery technique, in which case I wouldn't mind this winning at all.
     
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  10. Esquilax Arcane

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    It's childishly deceptive because we haven't really developed it all that much. I like the Yuchang Sword Style because I always wanted to continue developing it, and because they don't call it a Great Sword for nothing. As for why I picked the END stat, our body can handle more qi, yes, but when we cultivate our chaotic qi a lot, we have a tendency to really hurt ourselves:

    Given the shit that we get up to, we strain ourselves a whole lot. That's three separate instances of the same thing happening - I'd call that a trend. Now, I know that one point of END isn't going to make us invulnerable, but some more toughness would mitigate things. Plus, this sort of "longevity" is something I'm sure that Cao'er and Qilin would appreciate.

    As for your point about the Kenjutsu style, I do like it a lot. Still, to maximize it's utility we'd need an investment in Sabers, so we'd have to swap out either Throwing or Sleight-of-Hand. Considering that we'd be focusing a lot on swordsmanship there, and quick, flowing draws sound something that could benefit a lot from Sleight-of-Hand, Throwing would have to go, as much as I like the idea of going Spiderman on someone from a distance.


    The whole point is to make it all fit within the 24 month period, which most people seem to have compromised on. I'm treating that as a hard limit, because it's so easy to say "aww man, you missed this technique, just put x, y, and z, and it's perfect" , while it's much harder to pick what you really need and stick with it. Basically, I'm trying to avoid feature creep so that we can balance out a good training period with enough time to adventure and get Yunzi into our harem and, where she belongs. Meeting up with Qi Liuwu and Miecao, as well as Shun again would also be nice.

    The builds that I put together have a focus on cultivating our neigong and improving our END so that we can do more of it without injury, and a focus on either branching out towards making the spider silk a serious threat (with an eye towards eventually being able to drain qi through it) or pumping up our Unarmed abilities and close-range badassery and simply draining qi that way. The spider silk build and Anabanana's is a bit more rounded and includes one sword technique, but I couldn't find a way to fit in a sword technique with the Zhang Jue Jr. build simply because becoming a true Unarmed Master is a huge, but worthwhile time investment.
     
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  11. Anabanana Augur

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    If I'm up to scratch on my anime swordmanship, I think "quick, flowing draws" here refers to the momentum you create when you draw the katana out of the scabbard, using it to greatly increase the speed of your initial slash. So sleight-of-hand would probably not figure into it that much, since it's straight up acceleration.
     
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  12. treave Arcane Patron

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    SoH would help even more with dual wielding though. Especially when you switch hands and swords mid-fight.
     
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  13. Tribute Arbiter

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    Well, we were treating Reikan upgrade as an absolute no-compromise must, considering it was +1 PER for 1 month, earlier on.
     
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  14. Anabanana Augur

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    So any build that incorporates both unarmed and sword techniques should seriously consider incorporating SoH.

    ...

    Yep, it's official. treave is getting off on watching us suffer. :negative:
     
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  15. Tribute Arbiter

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    Are we planning on dual-wielding the Yunchang Sword and katana? Are we going to grab the Yunchang tech and the Morimoto kenjutsu tech now? I remember my package included options for both of those, but then it completely neglected Unarmed.
     
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  16. Anabanana Augur

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    Personally I'm going for the katana over the Yuchang sword.
     
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  17. Tribute Arbiter

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    Mmh. The katana may not be one of the Ten Legendary Swords, but it's definitely a quality blade, and considering how katanas get treated in genre...

    There's also the part where Emei wants are Yunchang Sword one of these days, whereas the katana's ours forever. The blade being the warrior's soul and all that.
     
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  18. Elfberserker Liturgist

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    Believe me I wanted to include Fanfeng sword tech or Minamoto sword technique, but I thought it would go against the spirit of this package.

    I agree with you that our claw technique is high-level and we will probably improve it in our adventures, but focusing on claws right now, lets us use those claws better at combat, wherever we decide to go. I think it's bit unfair to think Chuzhan fist as only anti-wudan weapon. Chuzhan fist focuses on maximazing the speed and power in straight toward punches, while weipon flying kick focuses on mobile aeriel combat and Shouwang claws on swipes. In alternitave timeline punches did work reliable against defence technique like Wudan fist tecnique and it was only at lvl 2 then. I believe that with bit of work we got decent anti-deflection fist technique.

    I have to admit that focusing on getting either Fanfeng sword technique or Minamoto technique at expence of improving Shouwang claws and Chuzan fist is very appealing, but lot of other packages do focuses on said sword techniques.
     
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  19. treave Arcane Patron

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    You won't need a Yuchang sword technique to dual wield it with another sword due to its smaller size and better handling.

    You are lacking a real swordplay technique to serve as your bread and butter foundation before you can do that though. Any of the sword techniques chosen here will give you that.
     
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  20. Esquilax Arcane

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    Now that sounds fucking cool. Btw, if we go for the qi leeching upgrade, how much closer are we to being able to leech qi through either our sword or through spider silk?

    It's fine if it neglects Unarmed, the Unarmed build I put together neglects swords a lot except for one investment. You can't have everything, right? If you want to include both the Yuchang technique and the Minamoto Kenjutsu, you can swap out the Reikan and spider silk upgrade for it, according to Anabanana's build. The loss of the Reikan stings a bit, but you don't really need the spider silk as badly if you're going to have a greater focus on swords.
     
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  21. Tribute Arbiter

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    Well, back when I put my package together the prevailing opinion was that since the Sword Saint just gave us that sword song and outright told us to stop neglecting our sword skills, we wanted to spend this downtime shoring up our sword skills as much as possible. Now we seem to be talking about maximizing Unarmed since we're close to mastery, where we can modify and invent our own technique.

    Let me doublecheck Anabanana's shorter package, as the one I was originally looking at was much longer than the one that's been posted more recently.
     
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  22. treave Arcane Patron

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    It'll happen if it's fated to happen.
     
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  23. Anabanana Augur

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    Better start praying to the gods, eh? ;)
     
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  24. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    NEVER! :outrage:
     
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  25. Kashmir Slippers Augur

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    I am fine with this and/or the extra six month version that Esquilax posted.
     
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