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That is called compromise. If you take part in CYOA, chances are, you have to get used to it.

Thing is, the packages have a certain idea behind them. The Frankenstein monster compiled from everybody's wishes will not have it. That is a pretty huge difference, which is why I advocate a modular/package approach.

 

Neigong should more than make up for that. Plus, qi-draining.

 

Hmmmm. This might work. We all vote for techniques we want, and then a time frame, so all the techniques that fit within that time frame would get in. That might work. Problem is that certain choices are meant to synergize with others...

...though whatever package ends up winning, people will be dissatisfied anyway hahahahaa.

 

I agree completely, instead of having a package that has consistent goals that picks boosts that synergise with one another, we'll just get a design-by-committee monstrosity that is MUCH worse. Forget it. Let's work with packages, it's much better guys.

Baltika9, I am swayed. If you're taking votes, mark me in for Anabanana Kenjutsu with Qi-leeching > Kipeci's Unarmed Mastery

 

If we are voting for packages now then here is my vote:

18 months:

Original Esquilaxian Package > Original Anabanana Kenjutsu package

If 24 months wins then add the Qi Leeching package.

Also no praying to the Gods, we have never needed them before to get the job done and we don't need them now.

 

Of course it's going to be a bloody compromise, just as it would be no matter the way you voted. But this way we would skip another 15+ (and that's an optimistic estimate) pages of people explaining why their slight variation on the same thing is better. Look at all the discuss so far, and we are no closer to actually determining what we are going to do. And in the end we are still going to end with something that most consider at best better than the alternatives proposed. You guys just love this discuss a bit too much.

 

I vote for Anabanana orginal Kenjutsu build with unarmed technique mastery> Anabanana orginal kenjutsu build with Qi leeching package.

Also No praying to Gods

 

The discuss needs no justification. It is self-sufficient.

Also, since the votes started coming, put me down as

18 months:
Original Anabanana Kenjutsu package

24 months :
Qi Leeching package.

Pray to gods.

 

Current tally:

Voting still going for about nineteen hours, but it seems that the 18-24 bloc is a happy compromise. I'll start counting package votes at the forty-eight hour mark from the last update. Then the real butthurt will begin.

 

If you want to focus on neigong you should really reconsider not putting anything in unarmed combat. That's currently the only means through which Jing can drain qi as of now, and being able to fight on master level would be better than also knowing some kenjutsu on the level of a submaster.

If you're insistent on silk and bullshit, there's no reason not to include animal taming to make silk on the go a possibility.

 

And traps. And the MANLY spear, in case we find Yang Xue.

The means to create packages are open to everyone.

A submaster level and 1 year to improve it is good enough.

 

Kipeci, the general idea is that we bind up our opponents with spider silks, impair their mobility and start: walloping them with fists; walloping them with swords; or sucking their qi dry.

 

We can already do that with current silk tech, though. It doesn't change that even when we tied up the Guardian of Metal he was basically unharmed by Jing's strongest blows even though he was tied up.

 

Speaking of timelines...

Treave, I have a few time-sensitive questions that I think Jing would know the answer to:

1. How many months until the next Winter Solstice Conference at Luoying Manor? Is there anything special about the conference at a trial year, and when would that be? I know the emperor burned it to the ground, but I doubt that would be the end of it. I'd rather be there in time.
2. When is the next Young Tigers Tournament? How many months could we use until we'd have to set off for the next tournament? I know we won't be making it to next year's, but the one after that.

 

I think we're a little too hardcore for the Young Tigers. Our next public tournament is the Mount Huehue Summit.

 

Why would they invite Jing, and why would Jing bother?

 

Kenjutsu Sword Style > Spiderman
Although should be classical ManSpider in my opinion.

 

My understanding is that you just show up to the summit. If you are strong enough to stick around then you belong.

 

Kipeci, as a previous champion of the tournament, they're kind of obligated to send us invitations while we're eligible. Otherwise, I suppose we could stomp some preliminaries.

Baltika9, last time participation got us +1 unarmed, +1 swords, +1 shouwang claws. At the very least, beating it means we get another technique. It's also a good occasion to check the pulse of the orthodox world after Huashan's coup. Barring events like this, we're not exactly welcome there.

My understanding about the summit is that unless we go adventuring, we won't be strong enough.

 

I've really come around to the idea of getting unarmed mastery/shouwang improvement to synergize with our neigong/qi-leeching, personally. Kipeci brings up a good point that unarmed is how we're going to leech qi from now on.

Again, I think it'll be pretty challenging to master unarmed once we're out in the world, since each subsequent level is exponentially harder to reach.

 

I know that people are tired of new packages, but here we go with three variations.

I present thee Neigong and niqqong mastery package

Core package:

22. Further improve your mastery of Reikan by training with Yoriwaka. (+1 Reikan PER, 1 month)
25. Undergo strenuous neigong training to unlock your potential (Neigong +2, 6 months, Yuanshi Hundun now gives +2 to STR, AGI and END)
26. Learn how to absorb qi from other people at a faster rate by ‘practicing’ with Qilin and Cao’er. (3 months)
27. Focus on qinggong practice by running around the island with the tigers, naked. (Qinggong +2, 6 months, Kuanglang Step now gives +2 to agility and increased ability to shrug off grabs)
30. Intensive endurance training. (+1 END, 5 months)


time: 21 months

Additional packages

A Silk flavor:
24. Further improve your handling of Ruanhong Zhusuo, the spider silk threads. (2 months)
5. Intensive basic thrown weapons training. (Thrown Weapons +4, 1 month)

OR

B.)Sword flavor:
16. Learn the Fanfeng Feixue Sword technique devised to counter Huashan. (+1 Sword, 3 months)

OR
CFingering flavor

35. Learn Yuhe Finger from Cao'er. (3 months)

FINALLY

D.) Monocle flavor

12. Peruse Zhang’s library and pursue self-study. (Scholarly Knowledge +1, 1 month)
6. Practice art with Zhang Jue. (Artistic Skill +2, 2 months)

The core of pack consist Improving Our neigong and Qinqqong skills with more focus on Neigong. This improves our overall ability ability to fight in every situation be it unarmed, sword, spears. The biggest problem I see is how to use last 3 months before reaching time limit. Any sword technique increases our sword skills.

We could increase our silk knowledge or focus becoming more

 

Absinthe, I'd rather we check their pulse by shoving a fist through BJ's ribcage.

And the only reasons we got those stat boosts is because Guo Fu was a challenging enough opponent to practice our skills on and the technique upgrade was because Fanghzhang donated a Shaolin manual to the tournament.

It's not the tournament that gave us the bonuses, but what we did during the tournament. And I'd rather we shoot a straight arrow to Yunzi and the Cult right after we GTFO the island. Two years is long enough to neglect her.

 

It occurs to me the qinggong boost might be a tad redundant if we're going for neigong upgrade, which will give us +2 STR, AGI, and END as long as we can still use our neigong.

 

Well we have Qilin with us and it's not like we've run out of silk so far, so how is this an issue all of a sudden? Are we going to have to keep an eye on our silk reserves on the road, I wonder? I think that you're seeing an issue here where there never was one to begin with.

As for a spider silk improvement, I looked back at the Wudu Cult update:

Even if you're an Unarmed specialist, using the silk as armor and being able to intercept projectiles to close in on an enemy more easily is a huge asset. I'm sure the technique boost would help there as well.

I am with you that maybe there should be something in Unarmed as well, but there is only so much that you can pick given the 24 month constraint. A big focus on Unarmed, for instance, and we lose Reikan and the sword techniques too, which can also be worth it as well. In fact, I was thinking of a minor alteration to the Unarmed Mastery build where we replace the 13) +1 SWORDS with 24) Spider silk upgrade to improve our ability to close in on our opponents and deliver brutal punishment on them.

Then again, I'd kick myself for not taking advantage of the cap boost that the Sword Saint gave us at the end of the previous chapter. Really, you can't have everything you like and we're going to be a little regretful regardless, that's just the nature of the beast. IT IS TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO AVOID BUTTHURT IN TREAVE CYOA!!!

Yeah, there's no reason for us to go at this point because we're way better than everybody there and it'd be kind of a waste of time to go there when we could be learning better techniques from Rob Halford, Tulu Huodu or Master Yao, just off the top of my head. There's really no prestige in it for us at this point, it's beneath us.

 

And I think one year is a good time to raise it to level eight, especially if we hang out with guys like Rob Halford in the Fire Cult. Venturing out with 7 in both Unarmed and Swords is absolutely great, we'll have an adaptable fighter that can fight with both types, and we have no unarmed techniques that counter swords, either.