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Yeah, we've used Reikan in combat before already. The distinction that Baltika was making was that we need a clear mind without distractions to activate it - for example, if we're using Zhang's lethal techniques and we are trying to avoid killing someone, our mind is preoccupied and the technique can't work. Likewise if we've been ambushed, for instance. The technique sounds awesome - I voted for it way back - but after losing an eye, it doesn't seem like we'd get as much mileage on it if it wins. We'd probably find some way or another to make it work, and I reckon that we should be able to use Reikan most of the time, especially in a life-or-death situation.

I still probably prefer the original Qi Leeching and spidersilk upgrade, but I can see the benefits of Yuhe Finger too. I'd be far more interested in it had we not lost our eye, though...

 

3. Intensive Basic Saber Training [+4 Saber] [1 mth]
6. Practice art with Zhang Jue [+2 Artistic Skill] [2 mths] Choosing this because I think it would help us understand kungfu manuals better. I think we can at least figure out the technique Sword Saint bestowed upon us.
10.Intensive Trap Training [+4 Traps] [1 mth]
11.Intensive Drinking sessions with Minamoto [+2 Drinking] [1 mth]
15.Learn rare Minamoto Kenjutsu [+1 Sword] [3 mths]
16.Fanfeng Feixue Sword to counter Huashan [+1 Sword] [3mths]
22.Improve mastery of Reikan [+1 Reikan, PER] [1 mth]
25.Strenuous neigong training [+2 Neigong] [6 mths] [Yuanshi Hundun now gives +2 to STR, AGI, and END]
27.Qinggong practice [+2 Qinggong] [6 mths] [Kuanglang Step now gives +2 to AGI, and increased ability to shrug off grabs]

Total Time : 24 months

 

Actually, that's a good point. Treave, the Sword Saint mentioned that we could understand the beginning of the sword song even if we were an idiot, but can we understand the entire thing as-is, or do we need more artistic skill to decipher it all?

 

LWC1996, we're voting on time periods right now. From your post, would you be down with 18-24, or 24-30 months of training?

 

Now that would take hell of a lot of time to read all comments, but I'll trust it to you guys to do the right thing.

Hows about 34 (0 months), then move on? That'll be my vote.

 

I'm going for 24-30 mths. I'm not in a hurry to rescue anyone and besides, chances like this to train in so many skill sets is hard to come by. But if we can spend more time to train, the better.

 

Even as is, this is an incredibly strong technique. Also Esquilax, you could swap the +1 endurance for +1 perception. A solid Yuhe Finger overcomes the need for endurance between our neigong and qi leeching anyhow. And if we have a technique to tear their defenses apart, we won't have to overexert ourselves just to injure our enemies.

LWC1996, I discourage this excessive training. I think we learn the most during our travels. Check our last six months. Plus if we're planning to visit Yunzi we should set aside more time than that.

 

Good catch!

treave, did we only unlock the first step of the Sword Song? If so, that certainly changes things. That's a huge incentive to get into Artistic Skill if there's a lot more technique available in it.

No way, the endurance is to improve our ability to cultivate our neigong so we don't fuck ourselves up as much. A PER boost would just make us slightly shittier than we were before we lost the eye, so it's not worth it just make one technique that we like better. In the big picture, endurance has more payoff with how much we rely on our inner strength. Being able to push ourselves a bit more without as much risk of internal injury is a better deal IMO.

 

You can understand most of it. The rest of the understanding comes through actually raising your sword skills.

 

I guess it just stings that when we passed over the swords stuff everyone was talking about how it was useless and mediocre at only a point behind Jing's unarmed and the huge consensus then was to focus the most on the unarmed mastery, and now the very same people are going for a pack that completely ignores the unarmed stat in favor of easily learnable sword techniques while we have the chance to become a master in the unarmed skill before even reaching 20. I thought I was being pretty compromising, but it seems these days that I can't get any of my choices through no matter what kind of effort I put in discuss. It's incredibly draining to write up walls and walls of text in support of where I want to go and then see like five people post right after to vote for the other side with no further comment while knowing that I'll have to reply right away to any looming doomposts from you, Nevill or Baltika9 or else people will just say that my arguments were devastated and vote the other way. I just can't seem to get people to vote with me on anything that matters anymore.

Anyway, I'll be making up a non-compromise vote when I get to a real computer, if you won't go for diplomacy then I won't try voting for a modified version of your packet. It won't win because KENJUTSU! but it'll feel less scummy.

 

Code:

- Start
- Create Package
- Ask treave about option not in package
- Treave responds about how good option can be in optimal case
- Flurry of discussion about how new option is essential
- Goto "Create Package"

 

I was actually on board with Unarmed + Swords during that vote. However, I saw the merit in voting Sleight-of-Hand because it had a lot of cool applications for our spidersilk technique. So it's not so much that people are ignoring one thing, it's that they want to focus on another skillset because it's higher priority. Given how many choices there are here and the fact that we have only 24 months to really buckle down on our training, a lot of things will be missed and we'll feel like we should have stayed longer regardless. It's also important to keep in mind that people are kinda psyched about swords because the Saint's new technique has increased our cap a lot.

The situation changed a bit, we have a whole lot of cool tricks to play with, so people are excited about the possibilities. However, considering how many people are voting, you can't seriously expect your vision of the character from the very beginning to match the reality of how things progress. I think you might be taking it a little too hard here. There are ~30 people voting here regularly and circumstances change all the time (of course people want to get into Swords now after the Saint taught us the Sword Song), so coming in with a set goal from like six months ago and expecting it to stick with all of these other people's ideas and a whole bunch of changing events is not going to happen.

Frankly, I'm just happy that we didn't die again yet.

You were compromising, everything was cool, but sometimes people have a fundamentally different vision of the kind of character they want. Way back at the beginning of Chapter 2, I was up for a drunken, tiger-punching Jing with a massive STR and a respectable END. It didn't turn out that way, but we still had a character that I'm pretty sure we were all relatively happy with. I wasn't too happy with the million sidequests or the rollback either, but fuck if I'm not having fun.

That's fine. There's plenty of reasons to go for STR +1 - increases the cap on our best skills and it makes us hit harder, of course. It's just that you and I have a fundamentally different vision here; I want END for a whole bunch of reasons I think are valid, and you have your reasons for thinking the way you do.

Regardless of what we pick, please stick around. I will too.

 

Emm from my point of view taking into consideration how hard its to increase higher level of skills, taking point to unlock it have sense only in hand to hand combat package. Taking into consideration that we took seriously Jue lv fighter and dint hit 8 lv i dont think that even grand tournament will let us get 9 lv. Might be wrong though.

Edit
Oh and i prefer to lv TigherSword because i recall Treave said something that it dont have lv cap because its personal tech or smt.

 

So, where are we at? Time to close the votes?

 

Nah, about twelve more hours to go. As for votes:
Profreshinal 12-18 months.
asxetos 18-24 months.
Esquilax 12-18>18-24 months.
Baltika9 12-18>18-24 months.
Elfberserker 24-30>18-24 months.
Nevill 6-12>12-18 months.
Absinthe 12-18 months.
Tigranes 18-24>12-18 months.
Kipeci 24-30>18-24 months.
Random Word 18-24 months.
Zero Credibility 12-18> 6-12 months.
Tribute 24-30>18-24>12-18 months.
Azira 24-30>18-24>12-18 months.
ScubaV 24-30>18-24>12-18 months.
Rex Feral 12-18>18-24.
TOME 18-24.
Bloodshifter 18-24 months.
Kashmir Slippers 18-24 months.
Grimgravy 24-30>18-24 months.
XenomorphII 12-18
Lambchop19 18-24.
Jester 18-24 months.
Fangshi 12-18 months.
Ganymede 30-36 months.
kazgar 18-24 months.
The Brazilian Slaughter 18-24 months.
Anabanana 24-30>18-24 months.
ERYFKRAD 18-24 months.
RealDDc 30-36 months.
LWC1996 24-30 moths.

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Raw scores:
1-6: 1
6-12: 1
12-18: 8
18-24: 11
24-30: 8
30-36: 2

And then another forty-eight hours to decide on the actual skills.

 

I think we are close to agreeing on a provisional timeline to schedule a meeting to talk about whether or not swords or unarmed would be a superior choice. May want to check back in a week or two.

 

Dmn cant we get to 12 h skill choice? Looks like timeframe is agreed cos didnt see any flops or new votes on it for some pages.

 

Okay. Use 18 - 24 months and plan something that fits within that period of time.

 

Not yet!

Finished! Probably my final vote, now that the time has been agreed on and diplomacy failed.

13. Intensive sword training with Zhang Jue (Sword +1, 2 months)
14. Intensive hand-to-hand combat sessions with Zhang Jue. (Unarmed +1, 6 months)
23. Learn Wudu Fushun: animal handling and rearing from Qilin. (2 months)
25. Undergo strenuous neigong training to unlock your potential (Neigong +2, 6 months, Yuanshi Hundun now gives +2 to STR, AGI and END)
26. Learn how to absorb qi from other people at a faster rate by ‘practicing’ with Qilin and Cao’er. (3 months)
28. Intensive strength training. (+1 STR, 5 months)
34. Pray to the gods for better luck. (???)

This should be 24 months of work on the dot, puts Jing straight into the master tier and so on.

 

GM's orders?

 

There's a distinct bell curve pattern here. 18 - 24 is going to be the likely compromise result even if I let it go on for a week. Move on to something more productive.

 

It's strange how perfect that bell curve is.

 

Huh? Maybe I should have read the past 30 pages before voting.

I did only read the update a handfull of comments and the original vote options.

 

Alright, you heard the man, bros. 18-24 months, let the butthurt flow. 48 hrs for voting, let me make a Package Masterlist.

 

Screw packages, let people vote for what they want. It's annoying to have to look back seven pages to find every modification to every package that people are voting for. People's votes will count the same for what we study regardless of whether or not there are blocs, anyway. The most interest in the most techniques gets those techniques.