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I was considering that! Yeah, I think I'll swap swords out for Zhang's Mystery Special. So mysterious... *swoon*

 

Is there any way to persuade ypu to bump up the Kenjutsu+Qi Leech up to the second conditional vote, as per the discussed reasons?

 

I'm fine with either, because no matter what, it's just going to be us and Zhang Jue for two months together alone, without those annoying women following us around with their gross little vaginas.

It's clearly the best option in terms of Zhang Jue romance, as we'd only have to suffer through Qilin and Cao'er's cockless presence for a meager three months.

 

Who needs Cao'er's vibrator when we can have the real thing?

 

I am curious. Why have we gone full circle from a lot of people choosing swords to a lot of people jumping on the unarmed bandwagon? Did I miss some discuss or something?

 

Strange, why are you guys certain that the mystery technique is unarmed?

 

No, just the whimsical nature of the Codex Gods Divided. I'm still pushing for Kenjutsu+Qi Leech because it's so damn awesome, but am okay with Banana's unarmed being a tertiary.

 

I meant moreso that a lot of the first sets that people were talking about include +2 sword choices, but now some of those same people are advancing sets that have +1 or even no sword boost and are heavily weighted toward unarmed.

 

Is it confirmation that LORD ZHANG kicked Susanoo's ass, took the Kusanagi and developed an awesome kenjutsu for it?

 

It hurts. Believe me, it hurts.

 

I guess it might be too much to hope that they realized that the sword song makes it very easy to train up the sword skill in barely any time while unarmed skill is a bit of a harder investment to come by at this point?

 

I have the nagging feeling that the Sword Saint's gift is going to go up in flames if we don't use it.

We have been pushing off swords virtually every time because "it is harder to train unarmed" and I am sick of it. This is a golden opportunity. treave has given us a god item that is almost specifically tailored to that option.

Hell, you were even on the sword wagon for a long time until you did a heel-face turn. I don't get it.

 

Nah, I like my current vote order as it is. I might bump LWC up over Kipeci Mastery but that's it.

Perhaps we should hold a meta-vote re: SWORDS vs UNARMED, since most of the currently proposed builds focus on one over the other.

EDIT: Or grab the LWC package, yeah, since it allows us to have both AND neigong. (Who needs stat boosts lol)

 

I've explained why I changed the way I've voted many times by now. Anyway, that's besides the point. My packet includes some time to raise the sword ability, I'm not diametrically opposed to the stuff, but there's a lot less urgency on that since we can't raise that to master level while we can do that with unarmed combat. Since I want to fight people on the master level, it's obvious what gets my focus, though we should almost certainly find at least one sword technique to give us a boost up to skill seven when we're clambering about Tibet, and if it's still easy to raise at that point, well, who knows?

 

The problem I see with Anabanana's Kenjutsu or Kipeci's Packet is the lack of techniques. Yes, they improve our raw skills and attributes, but all that is going to do is to punish us slightly less when we are still trying to bruteforce our opponents. Basically, it increases the effectiveness of the least efficient method we could have chosen. Again I call your attention to this quote:

Anabanana's package and Kipeci's either give us one technique (Kenjutsu), or no techniques at all, just an upgrade to an existing one (Shouwang Claws).

And that is not the first time we've heard about the importance of techniques, either:

You might want to listen to the guy who've been around jianghu for half a century.

All these stats upgrades are no substitute for craft. They are called martial arts for a reason.

I think we might want to get at least 3 techs out of this training.

 

Okay. Here is yet another set with an 18 month base off of which people could add anything that they want. I am just throwing it in to say that I tried, but I am only going to actually back it if it has a chance.

Kashmir Slippers's Totally Awesome Sword-rific Training Package Round 2: Electric Boogaloo.

3. Intensive basic saber training. (Saber +4, 1 month)
13. Intensive sword training with Zhang Jue (Sword +1, 2 months)
15. Learn the rare Minamoto-style Kenjutsu focusing on quick draws and flowing attacks from Yorimitsu. (+1 Sword, 3 months)
22. Further improve your mastery of Reikan by training with Yoriwaka. (+1 Reikan PER, 1 month)
21. Attempt to learn a random new technique of Zhang Jue’s choosing, that he created from his travels in Nippon. (2 months)
25. Undergo strenuous neigong training to unlock your potential (Neigong +2, 6 months, Yuanshi Hundun now gives +2 to STR, AGI and END)
26. Learn how to absorb qi from other people at a faster rate by ‘practicing’ with Qilin and Cao’er. (3 months)

Saber synergizes with the Kenjutsu style. Mystery technique because it could be really cool, is a technique that no one would expect from us because it hasn't been seen before, and gives us some quality alone time with Lord Zhang. Kenjutsu to draw votes give us a fast apparently agility-based style on which we could build. +2 SWORDS!!!!! because I am me. Reikan to give us some perception and because it is a nice 1 month investment. Neigong because it seems to be our special trait with being the adjutant. Qi absorption because it seems cool, and training it may allow us to draw it through our sword.
Optional 6 Month Packages:

Finger Dance Course
8. ‘Practice’ sleight-of-hand with Qilin... (Sleight-of-Hand +1, 1 month)
24. Further improve your handling of Ruanhong Zhusuo, the spider silk threads. (2 months)
35. Learn Yuhe Finger from Cao'er. (3 months)

Unarmed Compromise Course
18. Improve your understanding of the Chuzhan Fist technique. (2 months)
19. Improve your understanding of the Shouwang Mad Claws technique. (2 months)
24. Further improve your handling of Ruanhong Zhusuo, the spider silk threads. (2 months)

 

I’m advocating the Kenjutsu+Qi Leech package is because they are both good packages that make our mediocre so-so points into actual strengths and make Jing a much more versatile fighter. And venturing out into the world with 7 in both swords and unarmed with an array of solid techniques for both, and one year to raise our skills and train up our techniques is a great setup. Guys like Rob Halford (Xsaora Vairya, the Guardian of METAL!) and Shangguan are good options to push our raw skills into the Master tier during the year before the Summit.

Sure, it will be easier to train up our raw sword skill from five points (it will be fucking elementary to do so, actually), but where else will we find the extremely rare and tested by time Minamoto Kenjutsu and the accompanying +2 Swords and +4 Sabers that make it even stronger? Nowhere within the year, and it’s a very solid technique that was tested and perfected by samurai on battlefields and in duels. Besides which, Shangguan, the foremost expert on swords in this day and age, specifically told us brush up on our sword skills. It’s kinda dumb to neglect his advice like that.

As for the Qi Leeching package, well, I believe I already mentioned it, but I don’t think anyone will sift back twenty fucking pages to read that shit, so I’ll mention it again: a very potent package that has good prospects for development. It basically takes our “so-so” skills and pumps them up to a truly deadly combo. With a direct upgrade and the SoH bonus that lets us weave more intricate patterns and pull off even more impressive stuff with our webs (also allows us to better dual-wield our two swords, deadly if I’ve ever seen it) , and we have a deadly rope-in/counter-mobility tool that lets us use our ungodly 11 AGI to execute our sword techs, unarmed techs or just go in for an advanced draining. Recall this fight with Rob Halford:

Bros, I ask you to at least consider bumping this up to your secondary votes. Much of the stuff being proposed here is great, but I feel like this is an extremely potent winning package for us with a lot of room for later development. So it seems that our spider silks were the only thing that gave us an opening against him, they slowed him down just enough for us to be able to land our kicks on him. This is an extremely valuable skill that I would love to develop further. If it leveled our playing field with a juggernaut like him (dude has like 9 STR/9 END, easy) then what would a less sturdy and strong opponent do when caught up in them? And once we rope them in, well, we have a whole selection of unarmed styles, sword styles and qi leeching to take out on them.

Sure, the lack of throwing skills stings a little bit, but with 11 AGI from our improved Yuanshi Hundun we will be able to close distances in the blink of an eye.

 

I'm not sure why you have such a boner for the techniques around when they overall don't appear that stellar aside from maybe the Yuhe finger and who knows for the mystery one. Jing is able to attack people, he has poorly understood techniques that are difficult to counter, can he have more? Sure, but that's why we're giving him the skill to regularly improvise them in the future as well as the strength to be sure he can pick up demanding ones. It would be one thing if Jing was where he started with no offensive techniques whatsoever except for the grass-breaking kick or else if these were awesome wizard techniques that allowed for tons of crafty bullshit, but aside from the Yuhe finger and maybe mystery, they're really not looking that way.

I'd pick the Yuhe finger too, but we can slowly learn that on the road with Cao'er while Zhang Jue isn't coming with us, so there.

 

Not exactly:

Throw it away and replace it with an actual technique.
I'll back this up as long as you add more techs to it, whether they are based on sword or unarmed styles.

One (one) Sky-Soaring Dragon is able to do more than you pommelling the Guardian of Metan for half an hour without techs.

 

This sounds good too, yup! Add 6 months worth more of options onto it and I'll incorporate it into my conditional votes.

 

I think that we are overestimating what we can choose to learn on the road and what is actually the case. When in this entire CYOA have we been able to tell treave explicitly what we wanted to train and him give it to us. Anything that we may get is entirely his choice to offer us.

I would be surprised if we were ina position to learn really anything for at least a short period of time after we leave.

 

Sure, but we do have a wide range of serviceable techs such as that very Sky-Soaring Dragon already, thank you, and the one's we're looking at as potential gets here (aside from the Yuhe finger which I plan to nab on the road) aren't qi infused ones.

We're going to be on the road for a full year. That's been, what, the equivalent of all the time since the start of the second chapter? Obviously there's going to be some dilation going on, but since the Yuhe finger is one of the shorter moves to learn, it seems like an alright choice to study for.

 

Changes made.

 

And vote added.

 

Voting:
Kashmir Slippers's Totally Awesome Sword-rific Training Package Round 2: Electric Boogaloo + Unarmed Compromise Course.

Pray to gods.

Baltika9, Fangshi, this one has Kenjutsu and Qi leeching, too.
Elfberserker, this is as close to your Sword and Unarmed course as it gets.

This gives us a vatiety of techniques to outplay any opponent, a good skillset to make them succeed, and makes our signature techniques even stronger.

Techs are what allow you to take on the opponents that are physically stronger. If you want to take on Zhang or Vayra some time again in the future and win, you have to become more cunning, not more reckless and/or ruthless.

Physical stats and raw skill can carry you only so far. We are not so unskilled (if we do not neglect sword training) or so weak that it would weigh down the effectiveness of the techs we know, but we know very little, and what we know is underdeveloped. Thus, this is what I feel we need to improve.