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Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. treave Arcane Patron

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    You might even lose your arms and legs, but even if you lose your head you can always count on eye lasers.
     
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  2. Anabanana Augur

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    There are more katanas/sabers in the world than Yuchang Swords.

    Actually, wait, can the rare Minamoto technique only be used with the Wodao?
     
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  3. Absinthe Prophet

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    You heard treave. Vote for Yuhe Finger. Qi beams man.

    Minamoto tech can be used with any sword I reckon, but it seems to favor wodaos.

    Same goes for Yuchang Sword tech.
     
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  4. Anabanana Augur

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    See? We should totally go for the mystery eye laser beam technique.
     
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  5. Anabanana Augur

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    But what if we lose our fingers!?
     
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  6. Absinthe Prophet

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    Dude, mastering Yuhe Finger gives us qi beam powers. (Note: That's mastery. We won't be an instant master.) Level it up enough and where we're going, we won't need fingers. We just look at someone and they explode in a mess of chaotic qi.
     
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  7. Anabanana Augur

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    That's why we do the voting in two stages. First, the main build combination. That'll let us determine how many hours we have left. And then we can vote on the add-ons.
     
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  8. treave Arcane Patron

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    Well, being a master of fingering will only give you beams that you can shoot from your fingers. Learning to shoot it from eyes, navel or toes is a different thing (not entirely different, but different enough).

    Also I think I said this before but the Yuhe Finger technique itself doesn't give you the beams. You're going to have to track down something like the Yiyang Finger to get that (Knowing Yuhe already makes it easier/quicker to learn other finger techniques, of course). Shaolin should have a manual about that, the Abbot was a master of the technique.
     
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  9. Anabanana Augur

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    Having a poisonous caterpillar in one eye, and qi beams from the other.

    Obviously Yuhe Finger will synergize well with Animal Taming. Vote Yuhe Finger+Animal Taming combo today!
     
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  10. Absinthe Prophet

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    Being a master of fingering will be plenty good. I'm sure Cao'er will be happy to teach us.

    Incidentally, the reason I favor Yuchang Sword tech is because I think Emei will want it back if we're not capitalizing on it. Also, it's a damn good sword. We should capitalize on it.
     
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  11. TOME Cuckmaster General

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    How about we create basic packages now, and in twelve hours we start eliminating them? And when there is only one left we start making additional packages that would support the main package? Everyone so far agrees that neigong and reikan should be picked. Add to that either unarmed, swords or stat and leave everything else to another round. And after first round you can vote to stop training so there is no need to stop at 24 months unless majority agree at that point.
     
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  12. Baltika9 Arcane

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    No, twelve hours is nowhere near enough.
    Alright, after ‘sperging around with Excel and having Fangshi sift through the pages ( :hero: ) and deciphering all the shit he dug up, here are the counts, note that these are RAW scores:
    Fangshi: Esquilax+Qi> Kenjutsu+Qi>Kashmir’s Package 1+Unarmed NO GODS
    Zero Cred: Waste least amount of time PRAY
    Nevill: Kashmir’s Boogaloo+Unarmed PRAY
    Kashmir Slippers: Kashmir’s Boogaloo+Finger Dance
    Baltika9: Kenjutsu+Qi>Esquilaxian+Qi>Banana’s unarmed mastery NO GODS
    Kipeci: Kipeci’s Original>LWC1996’s
    Anabanana: Banana’s Unarmed Mastery>LWC1996>Kipeci’s Unarmed>Anabanana’s Kenjutsu+Qi>Kashmir+Finger Dance PRAY
    profreshinal: Kipeci’s Orginial> Anabanana’s Unarmed Mastery>LWC1996 NO GODS
    Random Word: LWC1996
    Smashing Axe: Esquilax+qi PRAY
    Kazgar: LWC1996
    LWC1996: LWC1996 PRAY
    Jester: Zen Swordsman
    Absinthe: Absinthe’s original
    Rex Feral: Elfberserker’s Unarmed
    Elfberserker: Anabanana Kenjutsu+Unarmed Mastery>Anabanana’s+Qi leech
    Lambchop: Lambchopian Swords
    Azira: Azira’s Original
    asxetos: Esquilaxian Swords+Qi leech NO GODS
    ERYFKRAD: NO GODS
    Tribute: Esquilax+Qi leech
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    Esquilax's Original+Qi: 4
    Anabanana's Kenjutsu+Qi: 1
    Anabanana's Kenjutsu+Unarmed: 1
    Kashmir Boogaloo+Unarmed: 1
    Kashmir Boogaloo+Finger: 1
    Banana's Unarmed Mastery: 1
    LWC1996 Package: 3
    Kipeci's Original: 2
    Elfberserker's Unarmed: 1
    Azira's Package: 1
    Zen Swordsman: 1
    Absinthe's Original: 1
    Lambchopian Swords: 1

    Pray: 5
    Don’t Pray: 5

    Yeah, this is a total mess with a million-billion combinations. With a group of over thirty voters, this isn’t doable in any sane amount of time. We need to put a foot down with these packages.
    treave, just go ahead and create your packages for a 24 month period. And I swear never to ask you for an early update again. Ever.

    As far as I can see, the main points are always nieggong+END, sabers+swords+kenjutsu and unarmed+techs and Reikan is a constant everywhere.
     
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  13. Nevill Arcane

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    treave, what would be the difference between the builds that improve our existing unarmed techniques and raise our raw skill without improving on the moves themselves?

    Obviously, raising them both is the better answer, but if we can only get one, what should we base our decision on?

    Similarly with Silk. What would an upgrade in throwing weapons add to it? In Sleight of hands? In the technique itself?

    How versatile is our competition? Do we have too many techniques compared to orthodox school disciples, or do we not have enough? How developed the new techniques would be? Will we only cover the basics, or would we get a decent or even full understanding of how they work, seeing as how we are dedicating a big span of time solely to honing the arts?
     
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  14. TOME Cuckmaster General

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    I think the techniques are going to be on high level. We are studying them 3 months, while we got our now sword technique and the beggar palm technique on level 2 in moments.
     
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  15. Nevill Arcane

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    Basically, the points of contention are:

    What weapon skill to prioritize: unarmed, sword or balance between the two
    Whether to go for raw skill increase or for learning/improving techniques
    What supplementary packages to pick (Yuhe Finger, Silk, stat upgrades, etc)

    There is a bit of competition between certain techniques (Yuchang vs Kenjutsu vs Mystery Tech), but this is less prominent than between the points above.
     
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  16. RealDDc Learned

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    Hows the progress progressing? :obviously:
     
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  17. Nevill Arcane

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    Steady. Just vote for my favorite options, and we will be done in no time.
     
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  18. Baltika9 Arcane

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    No, seriously, as it is, we will not come up with any actual option. People are coming out with new shit all the time and it immediately gets the "OMG! New option, it's just the compromise I was looking for!" And this cycle can go on forever.

    treave, just look through our Masterlist (Nevill, if you would please repost it) and pick out the trends from it and our DISCUSS!
    For instance, neiggong+END has a lot of traction, spider silk and SoH get lumped together often, sabers+swords+kenjutsu, swords+Yuchang.

    Doesn't matter how you do it, a combination of separate modules or whole 24 month packages, what we need is a foot put down on this rampant DISCUSS! or it can go on forever and ever.
     
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  19. treave Arcane Patron

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    Since you are putting in three uninterrupted months for the combat techniques and already have considerable skill level, you can expect to have learned almost all of the moves available for any technique you pick except Shouwang, which will require 8 skill to master. They'll be more or less fully developed, any further improvements will have to come on your own. If you want to compare it to raw skill, the techniques give a more noticeable impact immediately after the time skip ends but in the long run raw skill boost for unarmed might take a bit more time to achieve, since you need the equivalent of sparring with Zhang for six months. As for the benefits of skill, I think it's already been discussed. General boost, ability to create new techniques more easily, etc.

    Regarding the orthodox disciples, most of them usually don't have the variety of techniques you have. Perhaps two unarmed techniques, a weapon technique, neigong and qinggong. Very straightforward, compact packages that focus on their schools' strengths. It takes them perhaps a year or more to learn what you do in three months, and at least a few years to train their neigong for a +1. Jing started late and hasn't really worked as hard as they did.

    I'll get to silk and sleight later.
     
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  20. Absinthe Prophet

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    Baltika9, there has also been some discuss about Yuhe Finger. Anabanana likes it. Random Word likes it.

    Wish my package would pick up more votes though. The way I see it, it's the best option for Yuhe Finger.
     
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  21. Baltika9 Arcane

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    My favorite packages are obviously the best.
    :troll:
     
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  22. Absinthe Prophet

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    Frankly speaking, there's no other Yuhe Finger option that comes with +1 Perception. The perception also helps with the new Thrown skill and trap detection if we go for sneaking around.
     
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  23. Nevill Arcane

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    Judging by your tally, Esquilax's/Anabanana's Package + Qi-Leech (they are basically the same build), LWC's Weaponmaster, Kipeci's Package and Banana's Unarmed Mastery are leading, while Kashmir Slippers's Package has its votes split between two variants.

    Though it might be unfair to others that have not gained prominence yet. Might want to wait and see.

    It is in my sig. :?
    Oh, right. Smartphones. Here you are.

    ITZ HEAVAN! :P
     
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  24. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Which is why I'm taking treave up on his offer of him creating 24 month packages for us. It's the best compromise that we can all unhappily agree on.
     
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  25. treave Arcane Patron

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    Throwing adds to precision and control when you throw the threads some distance, sleight of hand lets you weave more complicated patterns quicker, e.g. that move against Vairya.

    I expect I'll only have time to draw up the templates perhaps half a day from now, so that'll have to wait. I'll do that if there still hasn't been any progress on this end.
     
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