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Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. LWC1996 Learned

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    Nope, we didn't ask for this wanderer unorthodox path, but might as well enjoy ourselves, instead of making decision based on, as Esquilax so eloquently put it, what the orthodox bros think of us. None of that I want Jing to be a free wanderer learning martial arts from unorthodox people, BUT I want him to be a pure wanderer.
     
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  2. Esquilax Arcane

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    There are a lot of voters here, so it's understandable that there are going to be people that don't like the direction that the character is heading in. There are around 20 people pulling Jing in different directions that all think they have the right idea - really, I love hearing other people's ideas for the choices - but we should try to maintain some sort of consistency.

    The orthodox/unorthodox choice at the beginning of the chapter was very polarizing and there are lots of pros and cons on each side. Nevertheless, I believe that our excursion in Songfeng was overall a great success: we offed a potential rival, gained prestige and forged the beginnings of the sword technique that will likely be our signature style (something, I should mention, that might not have been possible had we gone orthodox). And we got a little bonus from the Beggars too, so we did good there.

    No matter what, regardless of whether you like the choice or not, you have to be true to the character and consistent. If you don't like that the character has gone unorthodox, you can't say "no fuck this, PLEASE TAKE ME BACK WUDANG BROS!!!" - you're just gonna have to go with it. We're an unorthodox guy who fortunately hasn't made any mortal enemies yet - it's only a matter of time before the Emei are on to us - but while unorthodoxy doesn't necessitate alienating every civilized person out there by doing things that would make Dio look like a saint in comparison, at the same time, our priority is us.

    We'll try to make friends and contacts of course, but overall, constantly worrying about whether people will like us will fuck us over hard. Ultimately we didn't care if the Songfeng academy liked us or not, but it turned out that doing the thing we wanted to do as opposed to the popular thing gave us the victory.
     
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  3. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Depends, if we make the right/wrong people hate us, that can bite us in the ass too: case in point, the prefect. I already stated why I don't think going down that road is wise, it will simply put us in a position where we'll have to decide whom we piss off, the Proprietress of the Manor or the Prefect and both of them are pretty damn powerful people that can make our life difficult. The Manor because they have people from all walks of life and all corners of the world participating in their brotherhood and thus a large network; and the Prefect because he is a politician of one of the most important cities in the region and thus will have a lot of pull (what do you think will happen when we don't hold up our end of the bargain?), causing problems for us wherever we go.

    This Miao girl is good, yeah, but not automatically better than us in every department, remember that she did get the drop on us when we were beaten up and exhausted, in a crowd of people. If anything, I think A and D are better options than B because they are less likely to put us in a difficult situation later down the line. That, and taking her invitation just removes her from the competition later on, making thing easier for us.
     
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  4. Esquilax Arcane

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    For sure, it's a balancing act. We shouldn't put ourselves in positions where we piss off people that can make our lives extremely difficult, which is why B seems like it could be a bad idea - we might be placed in a situation where we have to divide our loyalties - but at the same time, a situation like the one we were in, where cheating was pretty much a given and the contestants were mostly nobodies (if they were important, they wouldn't be there), where there was nothing that immoral going on apart from a little harmless hustling, is the sort of situation where we shouldn't be giving a fuck about what people think.

    But yeah, I'm totally with you on either picking A or D. I've flopped to D since it's more likely to win and our Yinglang Step might give her some surprises.
     
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  5. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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    Yeah, lets take on the girl who kicked our ass again. That's reeeeal likely to succeed. Codex doesn't know when it's beat it seems. :/
     
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  6. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    It's for the harem her own good, bro.
     
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  7. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Yeah, we got our ass handed to us, limping our exhausted ass through a street and suddenly a random chick jumps on you and distracts you with sexy. She took us completely off guard, but in doing so showed us most, if not all, her tricks. Conversely, she saw none of ours.

    Now it's our turn to get back at that tease.
     
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  8. treave Arcane Patron

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    If your motive is a harem it's probably better to not antagonize her by attempting to take her invitation, giving you an opportunity to work with her and increase possible interaction at the manor later on.

    Just saying.
     
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  9. LWC1996 Learned

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    Oh.holy.crap! Are you guys seriously flopping to D???

    First lets look at this objectively:

    a) She knows Master Yao and visits regularly.


    b) She seems to be travelling by herself. Which means it's not the first time she's out in the world alone and she can take care of herself with no problem. Which means she probably has connections, that's why she feels safe wandering alone.


    c) Her father is a fellow of the manor aka possibly not some small fry. You wanna mess with a girl who knows poison AND a daughter of a fellow of the manor?



    d) She's a poison specialist - surely you can tell by the convo in the last update?



    e) and JEEZUS! Have you all forgotten her SNAKE?????


    And even if you managed to sneak up on her somehow, you'd still die from her snake that everyone seems to have forgotten about. So do you really reckon that she leaves valuable things lying around without protection? This girl is someone whose whole approach appears to be built around surprising people by poison.

    Are you going to risk that a girl who's all about tricks has SHOWN YOU all her tricks? What do we have up our sleeves? Our sneaking ability? Just that one? Oy.vey.


    If you guys are so intent on not pissing off anybody, why not play it safe and NOT piss her off since we don't know who her backer/connection is???
     
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  10. Baltika9 Arcane

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    She seems the competitive type, though. Let's make her chase us.
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    we have anti-poison masters though.
     
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  11. LWC1996 Learned

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    If she hits us with a total fast paralyzing type poison how do you think we are going to find our master for help? Or are you planning on lugging Master or Cao'er along?
    Qilin concocts new poisons for shits and giggles... at what level do you think her poison knowledge is?
     
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  12. Esquilax Arcane

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    Look, your alternative is to go and undertake a shady mission that we don't even know the details of for the prefect. If this mission involves infiltration on behalf of the prefect, which is not a far-fetched theory at all, that puts us in a precarious position; we either have to carry out his mission, which could be to the detriment of the organization that we're trying to join, or we end up defecting after he gives us the invitation, which means that we get a powerful enemy in the form of the prefect. I don't want to be in that position.

    I dislike D, and I think that A is much better, but you're not giving me any information I wasn't already aware of or any reason to pick the mission with the prefect over it.
     
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  13. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Take some anti venoms to go, and ask Yao for snakebait if he can oblige.
    Make a sneak attack with our Yinglang step, or just spring a trap. Hell, we've been practsing speech and CHA for the last year. Seduce her, it's about time Jing recalls how to pimp.

    Edit: I know it's not the best, but it's better than B.
     
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  14. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Actually, whilst I agree with you Esquilax, if our goal is to not make enemies and attain an invitation, we should consider C (Although I agree that A is far superior). It's a bit douchey, but honestly, it's not so bad an idea when compared with B and D.
     
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  15. Baltika9 Arcane

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    I'd go for it if it had a chance and my ideal would be A, but as it stands right now...
     
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  16. LWC1996 Learned

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    If you want Jing to be a pimp, then isn't choice A right up his alley?
     
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  17. Esquilax Arcane

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    Smashing Axe, I like A because it suits our character. He's charming, he can sneak a bit, and we have a great opportunity while the scholar's out of town. I agree that C is definitely an option, and while the douchiness of it irks me a lot, these guys are at a party with lots of people. A seems a bit quieter too.

    There are options, but I doubt seducing her after we've broken into her house isn't going to happen. Jing's charming and a quick thinker, but he's not Don Juan ffs. We really ought to go with A here, though even the scholar seems like a useful person to know, it would be a shame if he weren't a fellow in the manor, especially given that he might know something of the Yuchang Sword. All the options have cons, but the prefect's mission seems to be a lot of trouble. I've flopped back to A.

    treave, what would a Farmer character who was really dumb (i.e. INT 3 or under), but very charming (i.e. CHA 9 or maybe even 10) be like? Would he be able to pick up the ladies just be being really handsome like Zoolander?

     
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  18. treave Arcane Patron

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    Let's have some clarification!

    Firstly, your choices now are mostly shady. In A, you might end up stealing or lying or worse. In C, you are doing the same. Ditto with D, though perhaps we may add a charge of assault. B is an unknown for now, but may lead to shady things in the future.

    The way this sounds... it almost seems like we're advocating doing shady things as long as it doesn't get us into a situation where we offend powerful people. The part about powerful people appears to be more important than the 'shady' bit.

    I think that if you want the character to really do what is right, you will take an invitation in a way that doesn't deprive others of their chance to attend. As of now the character is a bit of a scoundrel, willing to do whatever it takes, but that should be fine. Just don't pretend he's something he's not, and if you want to build him towards the 'good and noble hero', you should also consider the choices and the implications they have about someone who would do such a thing.

    A really good guy who doesn't want to sully his hands would just take E and come back in four years' time to get an invite the legitimate way, if he's still interested. There isn't any pressing need for you to reach the manor, as I've said - it's not a matter of life and death for you.

    What I'm ultimately saying is... this reveals that the Codex gets pissed at losing. :D

    He'd be strangely attractive despite speaking dumb things. Like a puppy.
     
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  19. Esquilax Arcane

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    Yeah, you know what guys - fuck it. Jing is 15, there's plenty of time. Our options involve a mission that we don't even know about from the prefect, and three other options where we steal, or perhaps even worse if things don't go according to plan. What if somebody sees our face as we try to rob them? I think we're getting a little greedy here.
     
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  20. Baltika9 Arcane

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    I'm okay with scoundrels, I'm against playing a douche. And yeah, Jing hates losing, but we established that with Yunzi. Anyway, A>D and I'm happy. This Miao chick challenged us.
     
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  21. treave Arcane Patron

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    Well, perhaps not outright robbing if you can help it, but you are still taking something that you haven't earned via proper channels. You might be able to get it in A with permission if you want, but it'd involve lying and/or/possibly seduction, which is again fine but you have to be aware it's not the right thing to do; you have little justification besides 'he doesn't need it' and 'I would like to have it'.

    It's totally different if the wife approaches you openly asking to trade sexual favours for the invitation though. Then you're just a gigolo, and it's all professional, with no hidden intentions involved. Perfectly acceptable, I'd say. :lol:
     
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  22. Nevill Arcane

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    I was hoping for less assault, more interaction with D, as the girl will kick our ass effortlessly, should we attempt a show of force. But if that's how treave sees it, fine. Flopped to A.
     
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  23. treave Arcane Patron

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    Unfortunately the way the choice was worded doesn't exactly make it seem like you're attempting to go there for a nice friendly chat and persuasion. It's stated that you are to 'sneak up' on her and 'take' her invitation, before we even get to the name-calling. Consent is not implied. :rpgcodex:
     
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  24. Esquilax Arcane

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    Jing is Rance.
     
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  25. treave Arcane Patron

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    Alright, let's all just keep chill and look at pictures of Yunlong Lake.

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