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Well, I don't think Yunzi is a bad pick, but I do think she's worse than Yifang in these circumstances.

 

A1>B6>B3

 

Agree to disagree then. I maintain that this is not strictly a sword fight, that Yunzi is a better fighter than Yifang right now and that get and Jing have the best spontaneous teamwork or of the group. Just look at all the times they fought together.

 

I don't think it matters what kind of combat it is, sword or not. We would be able to somewhat match BJ if we managed to close the distance. Yunzi is fast and has imba Vairya technique. She'll hold her own. She wasn't at all inconvenienced in the Tufan tournament where participants employed various weapons, and some of them were quite dangerous.

Yifang is not experienced in a fight to the death, and those two aren't joking. I think she would manage to hold her ground, but I would not bet on a major progress.

Besides, Yunzi is ideal for fighting in a formation. We are so alike that the synchronicity of our thoughts and actions cost Tenzin his life. This will come in handy here.

 

Certainly Yunzi is capable, but I also think these are the best circumstances for Yifang to showcase her strengths, and that girl is strong in the way of the sword.

I also think they'd have a better opinion of us if we teamed with Yifang for a noble sword contest rather than Yunzi for a brawl. And because there is the Ten Swords gathering (and the vote-count for a leader) to worry about, I'd rather they like us and respect our swordsmanship.

 

Personally, I'm down with Esquilax's plan for making Shangguan the leader. We won't be elected with our reputation anyway.
If they're upset with how we fight them, then they can kiss our ass. If you come up to the MTP and say you're going to kill him;, then you forfeit all bitching rights.

 

I think I was the one who suggested that plan first, and while that is my intention, we're still going to have to work on getting people to side with us. Shangguan himself is too much of a recluse to bother convincing other people to vote for him.

 

They'll respect whatever can best them in a fair fight. You don't come for the head of a master of unarmed fighting with his similarly oriented friends and then complain they beat you without a sword.

 

Sure, but in the Ten Swords conference, I'm pretty sure they'll respect sword skills more than unarmed skills.

 

B4>B3>B6

 

A1

 

B4 > B7

 

Very neat! We also got an intelligence boost from all that meditation, in addition to all the other stuff that's been pointed out. That's on par with our base agility and strength now, though I doubt Xu Jing is going to settle down and use those skills as some great scholar.

 

No, but we can finally train up our military knowledge and become a Chinese Napoleon.

 

I dunno bro, you either want to kill someone or you don't. While they're obviously not enthusiastic about this business, when it gets down to it, they're here for Jing's head. Not that they can't be swayed otherwise, of course.

Anyways, if we're talking about the sort of move that Zuo Qingfeng and You Lanhai will respect the most, I suspect that it would be taking them both on solo:

They're reluctant to come after us, but I suspect that they'd appreciate not involving others to fight on our behalf. I don't see why they would really give a fuck about which person we have fighting with us when they probably see our companions as bystanders who they'd prefer not to kill. They don't want to do any more damage here than they absolutely have to. Whether we'll be able to take on two fantastic martial artists with Great Swords that work perfectly together as a team is another issue altogether, though. Personally, I think that we'd be able to hold our own with WQS, though I'm not sure whether it'll be worth it. At any rate, it does seem to be a surer way to diplomacy IMO.

Also, I wonder what the consequences of unleashing WQS here will be. I suspect that if it becomes known that we have it, we'll probably have to deal with Huashan, Kunlun and Taishan coming after us, in addition to the Zhang Clan.

 

I have my doubts. Even with Wuxiang Qiankun, these are still two sword masters wielding legendary swords against one Jing, and they seem to specialize in working together.

B is still a fair match and one we can handle, with the right partner. The only reason they ask for A is because they expect to just kill us.

 

A1>B6>B7>B3

I want to see if we can take them but am not confident enough to do it without the WQS. I am also somewhat concerned that if we take a partner we will get in each other's way, Jing tends to fight alone whereas these two are likely used to fighting alongside one another. A partner could be a disadvantage in some situations I suppose though there is no guarantee of this of course.

Failing that I would take a partner: Yunzi, Armaiti, or Yifang in that order. Yunzi seems like a good choice, she has a nice base of techs and skills to work from. She thinks in a similar manner to Jing so they could in theory work together better and she seems willing to do this. If not Yunzi then I would pick Armaiti as arguably the strongest of our companions she should be able to hold her own. Finally Yifang could be useful, she has the skills, but I am concerned that she does not have the will to kill if necessary. I would not want to take someone that will hesitate into a potential fight to the death with two skilled opponents. I would prefer if everyone (on both sides) walks away from this but if we have to kill them I want someone around who can and will do it.

 

If B wins can we still use WQ in the fight? Better safe then sorry guys!

 

I think that makes Yifang unusually well-suited in this case because the two we are facing do not really have the will to kill us either. Sure they will try to do so, but they do seem rather reluctant about it. In that sense, partnering with Yifang could even help us establish a rapport with them. And she definitely has the skills and techniques for a sword fight (Guihe Formation+Qingcheng Stab+Jing-style Sword+Qingzi Sword).

Besides, I have my doubts about managing to kill these two right now, no matter what combination we bring.

 

See I read it as they do not have the desire to kill us. They certainly intend to though.

They seem like nice, upstanding pugilists and they are probably being forced into this but I truly doubt they will hesitate for even a second when it comes to killing us or our friends.

I don't want to throw Yifang into that because I am not certain how she will respond.

She has probably come a long way from this:

and this:

Since she did fine in the barfight, but I do not know if she is ready for what amounts to a death match.

 

I'm not confident we could beat them with the Wuxiang Qiankun. These are still two sword masters with legendary swords who specialize in working together against one Jing.

I don't think Yifang will fight without intending to defeat them either, and a sword is a sword. That's good enough for now, considering how good Yifang is.

We have a shitty reputation though. Someone like Yifang would probably weaken their resolve to kill.

Well, I think this is the best stage for Yifang to showcase her skills and develop her resolve. And Yifang should be good enough to face them. Given the bar fight, I think she's got enough nerve to face a serious match right now, and she has the skill to boot. Don't forget Yifang and Song Lingshu also worked with the constables to subdue criminals in Chang'an a while ago. Yifang is used to fighting against people with killing intent now.

 

Yeah, you're right. Flopping to A1> B6.

 

I think we might have to agree to disagree here. I really do not think she has it in her to kill/try to kill these two and I would rather not find out right now. If we have to endanger one of our followers I would rather pick someone I am certain will do whatever it takes to win.

 

She has FOUR sword techniques and MASTER-LEVEL skill and you're worried she's NOT GOOD ENOUGH? Are you serious?

Heck, treave, what rank is her Qingcheng Stab technique?

 

He's saying he's worried that Yifang won't do whatever it take to win including and up to killing them, not that she's not skilled. There's a difference.