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You are aware that it's not certain that we will be stripped of our power even in the event of failure for this, right?

Say that we accidentally maim or kill one of their dudes when mopping up. Well, provided that we're able to hold off or overpower the others, what's holding Jing here to be punished? There's his vestigial sense of honor which doesn't really care for their various regulations, and I guess there's the enmity that this would generate between Xu Jing and other orthodox sects because of him not accepting the punishment for his actions, but so long as he's able to fight his way out he won't be drained of his power and crippled unless we decide to go for that.

I'm not saying that outcome would be fantastic (it wouldn't, and I'm definitely not hoping for that) but it's not an end of the CYOA sort of disaster (unless we can't fight our way out). And even in that case, there's the chance of our girls growing suspicious and staging something stupid to rescue him.

 

Same can be said about his fight against the abbot.
We know that Jing should be able to do either task, but xuxian can fuck up either task. But I believe that his chances of fucking up against the abbot are greater.

Also another thing is after either of us is done with his part can he help the other?

 

Such is the nature of the plot we got into. Stakes are going to get progressively higher with each fight. Ahura, Bai Jiutian, Qingfeng and Lanhai were all fights where we stood to lose everything, and it is only going to get worse. Don't forget, zhang family have a fragment of the Jiuyin manual, and a full copy of Jiuyang one. If we want to have a chance of defeating them, we must take risks. Else we'll just lose everything when it comes to the final confrontation - and seeing how manlou is probably the one holding Yu's legendary sword as well, it won't take long.

It is not a pointless risk. At least, it is not more pointless than the one we took when we infiltrated the Fire Temple.

 

Good point.

Flopping to A1, because fuck fear.

B

 

A1 > B

 

In the event of failure, it's a choice between being stripped of your martial arts, or bearing the stigma of being such a giant gaping pussy who talks big but can't back it up that you either kill yourself out of shame or Zhang Jue puts you out of your misery.

 

A1

I was debating between Options 1 and 2 but Esquilax's and Nevill's Points have swayed me to their points of view.

 

It didn't strike me through reading the update that Jing would view it as quite that intense a personal dishonor, but that's fair enough, there does need to be some sort of consequence for not backing this up properly. At least facing this guy should be a good warm-up for taking on our master in the event of failure.

 

Those odds suck balls

 

B This guy is nothing to us. There is no guarantee that we would learn the skill if we win anyway, and I do not feel like potentially crippling ourselves over some guy we have met just once before.

 

Oh.

on second thought, I think I will flop.

B

 

Hey lets overanalyze this DISCUSS! style. If one of A options fails then B fails too, unless its Jing that fucks up. If A fails we have a game over. If B fails we are ok and Shaolin likes us same if B succeds. If B would sycced then either A option should succed. If A succeds we might get a neigong boost.
Now which option is good...

 

A1>A2. Why did we even bother coming here instead of going to Wudang if we're not going to help him?

 

We already have helped him. Now he either proves he can handle the technique or shows he cannot.

 

We did help. If not us he would just be vegiefied as his punishment. Now he has the ability to prove he is in control thanks to us.
Also flop to A1 > B

 

Why does he need to prove anything to us? All we care about is that Jiuyang skill that will raise or neigong to retarded levels. For that, we gotta put our ass on the line here and fight LORD Zhang Jue's orthodox brother.

 

I have a feeling (I hope?) that if we succeed with Ax, we can have Xuxian honour-bound loyal & coming along with us as the first male member of the traveling harem. We may not learn the Divine Skill ourselves, but we will have someone who can use it to some degree. Our very own Dak'kon.

 

He has no Karach blade though. But he might teach us the finger lazor.

 

treave, if we fight and win, is Xuxian allowed to teach us the technique?

 

Update already says no disciples. Heck, they may not let him leave the Temple for a while. I'm just hoping it's possible to assemble a Xu Jing A-Team of the three secret technique wielders for the grand finale.

 

treave, with the help of Xuezi can we teach Xuxian, before the trial begins, the rudiments of our own legendary skill, in exchange for his knowledge of course?


In this way he should be able to control the technique better.

 

Emmm if there is any monk with lower neigong than our we can learn this formation by heart if necessary and seeing a tech dont mean he is able to overcome it, just that it will be a little bit more probable. Still i expect that if we will perform their 18 person formation by self we will clear that prove your superiority wining condition and they will stand down.

And i think all dont get that we dont need to defeat them, but prove virtue of character. The question is what will more likely convince his brothers of that? Facing person he attacked once or defeating formation?

As one grand person said "Still, we are all only human. Boy, please forgive us our weaknesses and sins." i expect that abbot persuasion is more convincing.

 

Xuxian was never a skilled martial artist. He may have become much better by learning these techniques, but that was largely an increase in raw power. Even if his skills have improved, you're trying to suggest his skills are good enough to face the entire 18man formation, which requires some master-level skill. Stop trying to downplay the word "formation" to mean "a bunch of guys fighting Xuxian together." This is some serious teamwork where all 18 fight as one. And we all know that Jing has much more experience facing large numbers of enemies at the same time and dismantling formations. Sure, we haven't seen or learned this one before, but that hasn't stopped us from breaking other formations either.

No, dude. The philosophical outlook of this is complete shit. The trial is about learning to control your strength, not "how to go balls-out crazy and hope to somehow defeat your opponent without injuring him too much because hopefully his defenses are in the perfect sweet spot of being weak enough for you to overcome yet strong enough to endure your onslaught without injury." That's not only some massive wishful thinking, it also shows that you have completely failed to understand the point of the trial.

Sharing responsibility is well and good and all, but facing the Abbot is part of Xuxian's personal journey for growth, and we shouldn't take that away from him.

Letting loose is exactly what we are not supposed to do. This is how we will fail the test in A1. A2 we can overcome with cleverness and other techniques like the Wuying Leipo Kick (which moves in a way formations are weak against) and rank 9 Xianglong 18 Palms (which is said to be the strongest palm technique in the 8 sects). Just by quickly taking down a few guys we can really break apart their formation.

And my point is that there were a lot of factors going into our victory (ring-out victory condition, superior speed, inferior lethality, superior skill) that enabled us to take him on in a way like that. Expecting to be able to take on the Abbot the exact same way and succeeding in just the right way is just silly. You're too hung up on using your lethal ZJ techniques. These are exactly the techniques we have to avoid using in this trial. This trial is about proving your restraint.

In the end, A2 is the clear option. Xuxian has defeated the abbot before. He can defeat the abbot again, and better control means he's more able to refrain from injuring the abbot this time. At the same time, Jing can face the 18man formation. Not only can we use Wuxiang Qiankun on the formation, but we also have a lot of experience facing formations and multiple opponents in general, so we know how to handle these kinds of things (unlike Xuxian who would be overwhelmed). Both of us go where we have the most experience (facing abbot for Xuxian, facing formations for Jing) and both of us can afford to hold back there (If Xuxian defeated the abbot before, he can afford to practice restraint, and if Jing faces weaker individuals, he can afford to avoid using his Shouwang Claws).

 

B

It is tempting to go with the A choices. I like Xuxian, at least from what little we have seen, but we don't really know enough about him to know if he will succeed even if we do. Alternatively he may succeed and we fail, dragging him down with us.

I am actually inclined to agree with the Abbot, this is not our sin to redeem, it is not our problem to fix.

Xuxian has to prove to them and himself that he does in fact have control over his abilities, the way to do that is to have him undergo the test and succeed by himself. By all means we should give him as much coaching and training as will be helpful but this seems like something he should do not Jing.

 

You do have a point here. The only rap I'm voting for A in the first place is because I'm greedy and hungry for that Jiuying neigong boost. And we all know what they say about greed.