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I prefer to take the option we have now rather than the option you think we might possibly get later. Heck, lets ask treave if we'd get an option to leech the abbot like this. But if we get to pick an order for Wuxiang Qiankun and leeching, I'd say leeching first is the way to go.

 

Besides, what is stopping us from leeching the abbott?

 

Probably the fact that he will suspect something is up if we try to get into a contest of qi strength with him when we enter the fight worn-out, so he won't even bother indulging us? Anyway, I already asked treave if we'd have that option. A lot of points of contention right now are waiting on treave to resolve.

 

You know what I would be willing to flop to straight C - if it is only inconviniencing to those people and they wont get MAD... but only IF we tell where we got the skill.

 

You know what, you're right. There's just too much number-crunching going on and we're getting stuck in our own rhetoric. I believe that the Abbot is a good man, and that he values spirit, heart, tenacity, honor and mercy as much as raw skill in battle. He has shown himself a reasonable and noble man, if strict with his rules. If we defeat the Nine Elders in an honest battle, I believe that we'll have other ways to show that we're worthy to bear the name of Shaolin.

I mean, for fuck's sake, we're Zhang Jue's disciple and we've been approaching this gauntlet like a massive fucking pussy. I'm sick of these safe choices and I'm willing to expend the energy on this big fight, because I think that there's more than one way to win this challenge.

If this fucks up, I'm blaming Azira!

I've flopped back to A > B. I'm also probably going to flop several more times before this vote ends too.

 

I'm fine with telling them Yang Xue is back. It's gonna be a problem in the near future anyhow. It's actually one of the subjects I wanted to discuss with them after we win the challenge.

 

Floppity C>B - I still hope monks wont get mad... Also I hope the abbot doesn't have more than 8 inner strenght

 

Well, if we leech the elders, we will be temporarily surging at 9 or 10 neigong against the abbot.

 

Guys, stop trying to decide what Shaolin finds honorable or not, I have news for you, none of the choices is 'honorable' .

A-means going wild because the techniques we learned are not on par with theirs, so we have to make up with our raw strenght, high probability to injure someone, remember, in chaos mode, our natural state, we can't control the techniques perfectly.

B-another forbidden technique that the abbott dislike and distrust, the point here is to show that such techniques can be used honorably.

C-vampire skill, that put us right in despicable monster category until we will explain how we learned it, exposing imperial secrets in the process,ohohohohoh.

As I have already wrote, if you wanted so hard to abide to their laws and customs you shouldn't have take this challenge nor petitioned for Xuxian.

 

B>A. I don't really see anything wrong with Shaolin finding out we have WQS considering the whole purpose of this trial is to get them on our side.

 

C- fuck imperial secrets, it's the last cadence gov't anyway
B- why would be forbidden? Who forbid it to Jing? It's a legendary tech of immense power but it is not forbidden to us
A- it's the maximum fuck, what else would you expect

 

As far as the Abbot's hate for the forbidden techniques, he hates the Nine Yang Divine Skill because of the effects it (inevitably, as far as he can tell) has on the practitioner's personality.

So far as we know WQS does not warp your personality, as it does not throw either yin or yang chi out of balance the way the Nine Yang Divine Skill or Nine Yin Divine Skill would.

He still might dislike it somewhat based on the fact that people tend to kill each other over learning any of these three skills, but this sort of violence is an inevitability given that we know WQS at all.

 

C is also some serious trololol.

Esquilax, I think you've forgotten about the value of pranking your opponents in a fight. Did Jing go all HONORABURU during the Young Tigers Tournament? No! We trolled our way through most of that competition. Time for MTP to prove his skills, I say.

Besides, you know the Art of War? Did Sun Tzu say "You should fight your enemies honorably in the way you think they would like to be fought?" Hell no! Sun Tzu was all about undermining the enemy's expectations when profitable. Hell, he said the best victory comes from guaranteeing your victory without even fighting, and after that comes winning without any injuries. We already cleared 2 stages without lifting a finger. Now it's time to let the 4th stage clear its way for us. Lets make Sun Tzu proud, Esquilax.

Lets prove that Jing is not only a badass fighter, but also a badass tactician.

 

I imagine Xu Jing has extensively studied the Art of War, yes.

 

Sooner or later word is going to get out that we have WQS. If we do it now we have a chance to prove we are worth to the shaolin.

 

I prefer to use Wuxiang Qiankun against the abbot himself. C will temporarily give us the boosted neigong we need to use it for our final match.

 

To that point I say which would the shaolin respect more: Someone who uses an underhanded trick followed up by a forbidden technique, or someone who displays their mastery over a foribidden technique, but resists the temption use it in the following match?

 

Resisting temptation does not apply in B because we would be unable to use Wuxiang Qiankun on the abbot in that case.

And if you want to prove your ability to resist temptation, vote C because we might even win without using Wuxiang Qiankun this way.

 

They would only know that we couldn't use it if they had some understanding of the technique already.

 

B

 

ChumBucket, yeah Shaolin probably wouldn't know anything about legendary techniques. And lying to them is good form too.

 

Hahaha, you talk about deception when option C is employing just that. I was implying not even using the techniques we aquire against the abbot btw. Lets put my point another way; I don't like C because it doesn't fulfill both of these requirements: 1 displays WQS to them in a combat situation, 2. shows we can use honest nonlethal techniques to defeat a worthy opponent.

 

C is tactical deception in a match. It's about as dishonorable as feinting is. You're trying to get into their good graces by lying to their face. Those are two very different things.

And as I see it, with C we can use Wuxiang Qiankun in a combat situation against the abbot, and we can keep our moveset limited to nonlethal moves this way because we don't need to worry about using our super lethal techniques.

Also, I just remembered that B involves using Wuxiang Qiankun to keep borrowing the Nine Elders' moves against the abbot, so really, you're not winning any points for proving your noble restraint of Wuxiang Qiankun.

 

No neigong boost, as Kayerts figured. Unless you do a permanent drain. You won't be doing that.

Qi draining would improve, but not sufficiently to change the description. It'll be reflected in narrative and use.

The monks will accept a C victory. Given that it's Jing, they won't be surprised at trolling or tricking. It's part of the repertoire and they didn't ask you to behave during the trial anyway.

Anything I missed?

 

Some folks are asking about draining the abbot's neigong after picking B.

Also, there's a huge stink being raised over how Shaolin will only reluctantly accept Jing with a C victory and mutter unpleasant things about his unorthodoxy whereas B somehow avoids this. Could you be a bit more explicit on differences in rep between the two?

There was also a question being asked whether a B vote would still involve qi leeching and be detected as such (this relates to arguments being made about whether or not we would be asked to explain our qi leeching ability with a B vote).