Inactive [LP CYOA] Overlord

They are highly powerful and we share their physiology. That's pretty unambiguous.

It would be easier for me to follow your reasoning if you quoted the relevant parts. The most I know about angels comes from this passage:

I see no mention of a moral code there, though I do see a word 'uncontrollable'.

Then again, is Rin controllable and how much of an obedient follower is she?

Wait, why do we even need them to become our 'unquestioning goons'?

 

Am I the one who is supposed to look things up?

Let's compare our statements, shall we?
1) Zayan creates good stuff. Ok. True. Unambiguosly so.
1) Angels are powerful. True or not? Is it an unambiguous enough statement for you?

The question doesn't lie there. The question we are discussing is the second step.
2) Let's get ourselves some magnative so that Zayan could create her good stuff.
2) Let's get ourselves a powerful angel companion. (there is more to Yuiria than this, but this could be an aspect of the mission, too)

The funny part is that you don't know unambiguously whether you proposition is more likely to succeed. You could still fail both missions.

It's true to an extent. She can be manipulated, if Erdrick ever bothered to, but can't be outright controlled.

Oh? Have you reconsidered your stance on her? I think you had a different opinion on her back when we discussed how likely she is to betray us due to her own agenda (which is recovering her father's legacy).

It is good to remember that we are viewing them through a prism of childrens' tales. Unless you actually believe that angels as a species were indeed specifically interesred in naughty children.

Punishment is a pretty broad word. We are not against dealing out some punishment without any corresponding ethical concerns. Check and mate indeed.

The way I interpret their description is exactly how Erdrick did - they do not believe in proportionate responce. That's all I can infer.

There are followers, and there are companions. The twins, the goblins and the slimes follow. Rin accompanies us.

Do you want to test the limits of her obedience? If you ever suggest that she has to obey you, rather than compel her to do it, she is likely to explode and do something stupid just to prove you wrong.

It's the other side of dealing with your equals, be it in power, or in standing. You want someone extremely powerful on your team, be prepared that you can't control them at all times.

This does not preclude us having common interests, though. Angels like to wreck stuff. We may have some people/nations we would like to see wrecked. There is some common ground.

 

It seems the only thing you guys agree is that you disagree. IMO the "Angel mission " carries a way greater risk than Ontoglia's. After all, according to Barbatos, the "common" Angel is something lime this:

"They're secretive, mysterious, blood-thirsty, sadistic and terribly powerful. Also not very smart. "

That doesn't sound like someone willing to establish dialogue with us. Or any kind of cooperation for that matter.

In any case, which course of action has more votes right now?

 

The truth is born in an argument. Though on the Codex it's mostly butthurt.

And yes, the mission is more risky, but I've been wanting to undertake it for a while now.

Sounds like Rin!!

I think it's 6 vs 5 in favor of Kipeci's plan, considering ScubaV's preference..

 

No slime takers then? Or is it just that those in favor of Kipeci's plan just haven't been online?

 

I thought it was more of a 'if there are no complaints, additions will be accepted' kind of a vote. Why would anyone object to slimes?

If the plan ends up winning, sure, I'll vote to add a slime or two to Rin's team.

 

Can't remember who, but I remember someone mentioning that he wants all the slimes in Grahferde for some reason. And treave might decide to not add those slimes if there aren't enough votes to counter that post.

 

Right you are. Flop to Kupeci's plan.

 

Alright, let's get a move towards finalizing stuff so there's at least one update before Christmas weekend.

First off, we will go with Kipeci's plan, it seems to have marginally more support at the moment.:

We have Erdrick LARPing Blofeld in Ontoglia with Lucy as the cat. Rin, Arlin and Aria handling the bandits, and everyone else in Grahferde.

Seems that some people want to get to know some of the slimes better, so what are the proposals on that front?

 

Take the foul-mouthed one with us, the others can go to the Camp group. Purely for the lulz.

 

I think people wanted to send a pair of them with Rin, to make the humiliation of the bandits more complete. My money is on purple!

I don't want a slime with us. Ours is a team of intellectuals, so kid slimes would only ruin the theme!

But if Baltike's proposal gains support, I wouldn't mind it either.

Edit: Blofild with a pet cow sounds hilarious. Just imagine Lucy trying to sit on our lap.

 

That's another reason I want the Tourettes slime with us: imagine us trying to be all serious and then that thing starts cursing people out for no reason.

 

I proposed sending the red and purple slimes (the carnivorous and the "cloth-eating" ones) with Rin to visit the bandits. The two would be able to gladly feed on the dying and the wounded, shortly after Rin unleashes her strong diplomacy methods. The pink one would either be left idle or on guard-duty, whatever one that lets her keeps an eye on the prisoner. The rest would be on guard duty.

The orange one... No idea, it could go with us to Ontoglia I suppose. What is its food preference? Fecal matter? Foul-mouthed people? Or both?
Either way it probably won't help us much in our negotiation attempts, but the idea that the governor could have his daughter cured should cause a strong reaction (after he spills the beans about her condition, of course). When he asks for proof, we can take his most wounded/ill miner back to Grahferde to heal him. Alternatively, Erd can gladly cut off his own hand and do the same process with himself. Or even better: do the former and remove one of his eyes as well. Perhaps even add one of his wings too, since the Codex seems to be quite willing to pointlessly mutilate the characters they happen to control at the moment.

Jokes aside...

Not really, as bad as Rin can be, she does have a code of honor of sorts that she tries to maintain. She also promised that she would help us as long as she can achieve her goals. The supposed Angel has neither and has no reason to trust or follow us, nor anything points out that he wouldn't attempt to murder us at any moment for one reason or another (for example: not considering Erdrick a "true" angelic being).

Besides, the only mysterious and secretive things about Rin are her wingspan measurements the conditions to unlock her H-scene what is the true extent of her power (she did some impressive stuff back at the end of the first chapter that she shouldn't have been able to do, although that could be because she was being mind-controlled), whether she'll tell us at some point what she can do with her wings and how to replicate it with ours and, lastly but not least, if she'll have what it takes to betray us once she has what she wants.

Fortunately, the latter is not going to happen anytime soon: Zayan might be able to provide her an answer, but chances are it will take years, or even dozens of years, until she has found a foolproof method. Then there's also the fact that such endeavor would require lots of resources and material, such as magnetite, which we're currently lacking at the moment.


Finally, I do not believe Angels have a strict ethic code they follow to the letter. I assumed the whole thing about "slaughtering entire cities because a child misbehaved" happened because they used the latter as an excuse to go wild and begin the mass murder and carnage they love so much.

EDIT: treave, is Rin affected by our "monster chief" too? I'm not sure if she would, considering she can be considered an elite class of monster, possibly closer to a Demon Lord level.

 

She could actually be having so much fun being out in the world and free for the first time and having it be a brand new world to boot that she might have forgotten what she should be doing rather than dicking around.

Not that Erdrick is going to go out of his way to remind her, of course.

It would, but she takes a lot of XP to level up, so to speak.

 

I remember a few codexers going 'pffft, so she promised us, so what, she is our former enemy, she emanates hostility, she can break it anytime now'. I think even Baltika shared the sentiment.

And now she is our BFF.

Maybe it's because the angel is the boogeyman now.

A strong statement about someone we never met. What do you know about that angel? That he didn't swear his undying loyalty to a guy he doesn't even know exists?

For the moment, he/she/it seems to be confined somewhere under the ground. I'd say a promise of release may provide enough reason for both - and if that isn't enough, then a promise of bloodshed that will surely follow once the Methussians get a wind of who is responsible for the deed.

Frankly, it is kind of strange to make such a precise statements about a whole race.

I do not believe humans have a strict ethic code they follow to the letter. I do not believe demons have a strict ethic code they follow to the letter, though their nobility/royalty - just like their human counterparts - seems to put some value on keeping one's word.

That is a meaningless generalization.

 

At least one slime with Rin. Don't know about Baltika's proposal, how would the slime stay hidden in crowded town?

 

No slime in town. Some slimes to help with bandits is ok with me.

 

Carnivorous slimes can go with Rin, I guess. Do try to indicate that they should be protected well as reasonably possible, though. I still don't like it, Rin's reckless nature could just as easily get them killed as piling up the bodies to make them stronger.

I wonder, could the pink slime function as a jock strap? Got to protect the angelic hyperweapon, and slimes might make decent shock absorbers if they can hold themselves together well enough to not slip through the clothes and make a mess.

 

Under your cloak. They can ball up and cling to it on the inside and you can whisper to people from a dark alley and draw your cloak back to reveal them as if selling illicit merchandise.

 

Too cool not to try. Especially since that one curses worse than a sailor.

 

I'll take that as a confirmation for pink slime hyperweapon sheathing.

 

Not only is your hyperweapon no longer hyper, it can't even be called a weapon anymore.

 

Well, not with that attitude. We have a good physical endurance; we could probably find some way to club some poor fool to death with even the flaccid remnants of Erdrick's once-proud pillar. Just remember to use the protection and it's all good!

 

Pink Slime for Mercant; carnivorous slime and Turrets slime for Rin.

 

We should do it if only for the sake of our reputation!