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I never played Mafia 1, just played Mafia 2 because it was on sale on Steam. All I kept thinking was that the game had so much going for it, but let so much go to waste. It looked great, the environment was excellent and it at least tried to put you there.
But... there was nothing else to do. I actually ran across town in that game, a 30 minute exercise that just had me powering off out of boredom. You can shoot people, and the gas stations were full service with lots of nice touches, but nothing matters. You don't run out of gas when all you do is drive 5 miles in game between missions. There is no reason to go anywhere else, anyhow.
The driving in that game was going from an intro cut-scene to the next cut-scene, then to a gun battle. Fuck, they had all the nuance with no actual delivery. I thought the story itself was good, but after a guy single-handedly murders 2,000 people, you'd think he would get a little more respect in the end. I mean, he's an unstoppable murder machine.
Also, it would have been a nice touch if you could have avoided prison through a different outcome in the Green Stamp quest. When you get tapped like that, it would have added rplay-ability if some random quest was key to some future missions. But no. Also, you can print money by stealing cars next to the car crusher and getting paid. Boring and obvious.
The game felt like they ran out of money, or the people they assigned to real-world events, sidequests, and interaction didn't get paid or didn't do their work.
If you managed to slog trough Mafia 2, then you owe it to yourself to play the first now, heh, start with the half baked sequels and finish with the one that's actually a great seems to be a pleasant way to play trough a game series, at least you won't end with a bad taste of mouth...
Unless he expects first one to be a sandbox game with loads of side shit to do. Open city in Mafia is just a scenery for telling the story, the fact that they made it as big as it is just speaks to their obsession to details and immersion. But it's also why people keep mistakenly comparing it to GTA even though it was never meant to be that type of game.
Actually, I watched that entire video and, as much as I hate "Youtube Personalities" it wasn't a bad review. He praised as well as damned it. In the end, he made a lot of sense. I mean... x-ray vision?
Vito, the protagonist from 2, does finally get the respect he deserves in the (arguably) best ending of Mafia III, for what little thats worth.
EDIT: Ending spoilers and shit -
In the 'best' ending, Lincoln leaves town after getting his revenge, tries to live a normal life and occasionally sends postcards to the Padre. Meanwhile, whichever underboss is still alive (Vito takes precedent over the other 2 if all 3 live) eventually takes over New Bordeaux. In Vito's case, he takes over the city, finishes the casino that the main antagonist of the game never completed and is still alive and filthy rich in 2016.
EDIT2: I take back what I just said. The best - objectively speaking - ending is if you choose to rule New Bordeaux alone at the end. That was a hoot.
Vito, the protagonist from 2, does finally get the respect he deserves in the (arguably) best ending of Mafia III, for what little thats worth.
EDIT: Ending spoilers and shit -
In the 'best' ending, Lincoln leaves town after getting his revenge, tries to live a normal life and occasionally sends postcards to the Padre. Meanwhile, whichever underboss is still alive (Vito takes precedent over the other 2 if all 3 live) eventually takes over New Bordeaux. In Vito's case, he takes over the city, finishes the casino that the main antagonist of the game never completed and is still alive and filthy rich in 2016.
EDIT2: I take back what I just said. The best - objectively speaking - ending is if you choose to rule New Bordeaux alone at the end. That was a hoot.
Haven't read this thread but I doubt I will buy this. I really enjoyed the first Mafia game when it came out because although it was similar to GTA (which was already boring to me at the time), it strived to be different and better. Speed limits etc, made the whole thing feel more grown up and less mindless. In GTA games I get some dumb mission, I throw some random NPC out of their car and drive at 100 mph in a straight line to wherever the mission is, run over any person, lamp post, fences, anything in my way to get there. If the car gets fucked up I just jump out and grab another one. I get to the location and watch their shitty cutscene and do the mission and then repeat this whole thing 100 more times until I can uninstall. The only time any of this really interested me (since the series went 3d) was the Ballad of Gay Tony which was worth playing just because the missions themselves were really fun and made it worthwhile. But the actual open world aspect of the series is worthless to me. And wasting development time on crappy mini games like tennis and golf is ludicrous to me and obscene to think of that wasted money.
Basically I don't like GTA, and I support stuff like Saints Row which try to do the same thing but actually bring in new ideas along the way instead of rehashing the same thing over and over. But Mafia was different, it didn't just want to be GTA but a bit different, it wanted to be its own thing entirely even though on paper it was similar. But then with Mafia 2 that distinction became harder to see. And now with Mafia 3 it is basically gone. I guess it makes sense to make another big dumb open world driving/shooting game because they are so profitable, I just wish they used some other name for it instead of defiling a promising IP that could have gone a better direction if this wasn't such a stupid dude bro orientated hobby.
I'm sure :/ I had some fun in the second game with some of the shooting missions. But every time I had to get in the car it felt like an unnecessary chore. I would rather it have just been a 3rd person shooter instead of watering it down with pointless commuting.
Just had a thought. Isn't this basically a HD (loosely speaking) remake of The Godfather 2 game? I remember that game had you taking over Rackets and shit as well. It's been years since I played that game, so I dunno.
That stuff is still pretty borederline enjoyment for me. Mafia came close because instead of flooring it at top speed in a straight line to the objective, I had to actually drive almost like real life, stopping a traffic lights and not speeding too much. I really love that in games, because it makes me feel a lot more like I am in that world and not just playing an action vroom vroom game. But I still wanted more and Mafia 2 had less if anything. Don't know about M3 because I don't have it. I may get it sometime but I always wait several months to buy games nowadays. Everything seems to need several months for patches and the best mods to show up.
Mafia 2 has the best car driving and handling out of any GTA clone, period. I was looking forward to driving every time in that game. Close second is Mafia 1.
Mafia III is straight up generic open world game. No penalties for running a red light or speeding. The optional side missions were you tail another car attempts to add some variety by having the suspicion go up if you run a red light, drive in the wrong lane, stop for no reason, honk your horn, etc. etc. but in practice the bar goes down fast enough it flat out doesn't matter.
Mafia III is straight up generic open world game. No penalties for running a red light or speeding. The optional side missions were you tail another car attempts to add some variety by having the suspicion go up if you run a red light, drive in the wrong lane, stop for no reason, honk your horn, etc. etc. but in practice the bar goes down fast enough it flat out doesn't matter.
I'm still trying to come to terms with how bad the game looks to me, despite some things being very detailed. Might just be that piss filer, but the game is a complete sore to my eyes.
Mafia III is straight up generic open world game. No penalties for running a red light or speeding. The optional side missions were you tail another car attempts to add some variety by having the suspicion go up if you run a red light, drive in the wrong lane, stop for no reason, honk your horn, etc. etc. but in practice the bar goes down fast enough it flat out doesn't matter.
Been a very long time but isnt that the opposite of Mafia were if there was a cop and you broke a traffic law you were pretty much fucked since it was 1920's cars and the police cars were typical much better that yours? there was that mission with the racing car were because you were timed you had to pretty much ignore traffic signs but your car was much faster and could outrun the police anyway that was the exception to the rule.
