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Discussion in 'The Gazebo' started by Berekän, Sep 8, 2017.

  1. Multi-headed Cow Cipher

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    Thanks a bunch for linking that! Tried it out and it's actually quite a lot of fun. I burnt wildcards (Commons and uncommons at least) to get the Ikoria cards for it and it's a hoot. Basically always end up liking Izzet decks the most and that's a fun combination of tearing through cards, removal, and trying to line up a sneaky lethal with the double strike on a a drake. The krakens tend to fall into a third possible way out but that is quite fun. Just have to not commit sudoku when I come up against another fucking fires of invention deck.

    But... But Spectre. You just offered a wh*te card to Luka.
     
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  2. Thac0 Maybe we have trash taste ... Patron

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    Fires Matchup is super binary, either you counterspell their first Fires and they die on the next turn, or you dont and they kill you. The deck probably wants stuff like Quench for that, I use Ionize currently. I dont get the Kraken inclusion aswell, I personally cut it imediatly. I really hope they ban Yorion. While there are a few cool decks with him he makes Fires way too good by bouncing it and Lukka for devastating value turns.
     
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  3. spectre Arcane

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    Holy shit man, you're right. I wasn't really thinking.
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    It's okay to be white
     
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  4. lukaszek the determinator

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    [​IMG]
     
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  5. new fucking guy Learned Patron

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    people are saying it's for cube

    also fuck yeah gempalm incinerator! it's basically legacy goblins minus vial now.
     
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  6. Akratus Self-loathing fascist drunken misogynist asshole Patron

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    Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
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    The concept artist totally drew a crystal dick here, right? It's not just me? He's gotta be fucking with us.
     
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  7. lukaszek the determinator

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    i remember having fun with those on prerelease tournament. it was also last time i played mtg before arena

    yeah, flash mutate deck is way better as sultai, mostly due to being very aggresive starting turn 3, out of no where

    you often miss on wolves due to mutating on your turn. Its just too strong to do so during combat. Reason its way stronger is having 4 def body on turn 3, something I missed having a lot.
     
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  8. lukaszek the determinator

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    in above i forgot about sharks lol

    anyway im confused about Mystic Subdual. It appears to work on equipment and auras too?
     
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  9. new fucking guy Learned Patron

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    rules for gets/has/loses wordings are weird
     
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  10. lukaszek the determinator

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    if said equipment gets removed and attached again, will you gain its abilities?
     
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  11. spectre Arcane

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    I tried to make sense of the way mtg rules handle "loses all abilities" once, made me do a system shutdown when they started blurting out shit like timestamps and layers.
    Here's an article, if you're feeling adventurous.

    https://cantrip.ru/en/mtg-cards/Turn-to-Frog.shtml
     
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  12. Thac0 Maybe we have trash taste ... Patron

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    I have been experimenting with Fiend Artisan, since I drew a lot of them and graveyard stuff is always cool. So far he seems to go really well with Umori since almost all graveyard synergies are on creatures anyway.
    This is what I currently have, it can be really explosive but it still has games where it jsut cant go off the ground.

    Companion:
    1x Umori the Collector

    Win Conditions:
    4x Fiend Artisan
    3x Lotleth Giant
    1x Izoni, Thousand Eyes

    Enablers:
    4x Glowspore Shaman
    4x Gorging Vulture
    4x Skull Prophet
    2x Excavation Mole

    Removal:
    4x Murderous Rider
    3x Cavalier of Night

    Value:
    4x Acolyte of Affliction
    1x Izoni Thousand Eyed

    Lands:
    2x Castle Locthwain
    6x Swamp
    6x Forest
    4x Overgrown Tomb
    4x Temple of Malady
    4x Fabled Passage

    Cards I am experimenting with which arent in currently:
    Embodiment of Agonies
    Eye Collector
    Thrashing Brontodon
    Order of Midnight
    Mire Triton
    Nightmare Shepherd

    Any ideas on how to make this jank pile stronger?
     
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  13. lukaszek the determinator

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    in 1/2 of the cases I use subdual to knock flyer out of the sky, followed by enemy investigating card for some time and wondering why cant block

    i find it hard to make it work without stitcher in historic. Got similar deck in historic, not turning it standard due to missing that single card.
    obviously bring priest of forgotten gods - mana, removal, draw AND graveyard fuel in single package. Its rotating next - another reason to go historic.
    plaguecrafters are must.
    im big fan of moulderhulks
    you got too many izonis and trololo giants. Get 1 each with so many fiend artisans.

    yes its critter deck but then you lose some value stuff, like find/fatality, great henge(I find it performing better than citadel in such deck), cauldron of eternity, titans nest if go ubg.

    probably better in black devotion that this

    In general, you stuff seem slow. Need to cheat some mana and umori wont do it. Probably wont be alive to cast it.
    If I wanted to try standard, id bring blue color for that 4 card scroll for 1 mana at the very least.
     
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  14. new fucking guy Learned Patron

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    these "enablers" are really bad, if you want to push fiend artisan you'd probably have more luck making sure his activations are powerful rather than getting him to respectable stats
     
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  15. spectre Arcane

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    Lolicon giant I would use as a single, backup victory plan, not really a part of the main strategy. Self mill in black feels rather weak, tbh, and if you want to do that, you're better off in blue which has both faster mill and a win condition.
    I think it's easy to identify the key pieces and pull your strategy apart (all of them being creatures, which means they die extra quickly).
    You want your fiends alive an well, and to make it happen I'd use discard and recursion, Blood For Bones for example is great value, especially with cavaliers and plaguecrafters,
    obviously that leaves you without Umori, but you really want recursion to get the most out of BG.

    Creature based discard, otoh, is a bit easier to come by and should help you pick apart all the obscene ramp decks. Pilfering imp is unfortunately rather slow, but it's the only durex you're getting with umori,
    Burglar rats are nice fodder for all kinds of sac effects, possible to use them in split with fenlurkers (you should be able to pull off BB on curve).
    Then there's also Kroxa and all the different combos it enables (sac in response to sac trigger, also the infamous Lazav combo), if you want to branch off into a different color combination.
    You shouldn't feel married to green, in my opinion, the dual mana on Fiends and Umori doesn't force you in any way, and in the current meta green is pretty much about ramping.
     
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  16. Thac0 Maybe we have trash taste ... Patron

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    I tried this in historic, and while Stitchers is a way better yard filler than everything else in my deck the power level of all other decks also rises too much to compete. Maybe if I try a weird mashup with my functioning lands graveyard deck, Knight of the reliquary is pretty strong.

    Lolicon Giant is the only way this pile of garbage wins at the moment, when he comes down t5-7 he bonks people for 15 damage. Noone expects that. Its like a more shitty version of the cycling deck finisher.

    I will try to shift this to UB, looking over the list the deck doesnt gain much from green at all and the blue graveyard fillers are much stronger.
     
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  17. lukaszek the determinator

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    but is not creature... did you consider going tricolor and using titans nest? It doesnt rely on critters in graveyard. Havent seen such deck yet, will do at some point once im done petting sharks
     
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  18. Thac0 Maybe we have trash taste ... Patron

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    Not a fan of Sultai in general, but I will absolutely try to make it worth with Deaths Oasis in Abzan. That card mills the yard really quickly and gives card advantage to boot. Also as soon as I no longer have to satisfy the Slime condition I can play Mythos of Nethroi for some actual quality removal.
     
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  19. lukaszek the determinator

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    if you go historic after all, what I was having lots of fun with before rotation was mirror image + cavalier
     
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  20. lukaszek the determinator

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    tried some titan nest with nyx bloom. in standard, wasnt able to get proper engine even once. Then i switched to my platinium deck, turns up i was just destined to lose no matter what
     
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  21. lukaszek the determinator

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    im triggered that I cant mutate in response to extinction event
     
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  22. Thac0 Maybe we have trash taste ... Patron

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    If you mutate with flash you should be able to right? Mutate is just the same speed as the card. So field the shitty Vivien, Champion of the Wilds and off you go!
     
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  23. Thac0 Maybe we have trash taste ... Patron

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    Is that a Platinum Angel deck? Is there even any support for something like that in Historic?
     
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  24. lukaszek the determinator

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    i want to be able to mutate after opponent choses odd/even to protect my critter with mutate. I cant as choice is being made when it resolves
     
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  25. lukaszek the determinator

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    was unlucky, didnt get battra pixels. The only one i sort of cared about :/
     
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