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Discussion in 'The Gazebo' started by Berekän, Sep 8, 2017.

  1. lukaszek the determinator

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    played this quite a bit, speed of that deck is bad. With mine i just put stuff on the board, which creates immediate threat. With this I feel like Id better wait for 4/5 mana to be able to protect my precious critter.

    That being said i feel like it could be fixed if one added some paradise druids or geese in.

    I think im shifting my attention towards historic format next. hypnotic spectre and waste not are calling me and Im not sure I can/want to resist it any more
     
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  2. spectre Arcane

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    You probably should, I just switched to historic Bo3 ranked once again an keep wondering why the fuck did I ever bother with standard.
     
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  3. lukaszek the determinator

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    im a bit uninspired. I want mono black, waste not + priestess to be used as mana generators.
    Burglar rats, mind rot, gutterbones and rankle are given.
    Then I have trouble deciding on what to do with that setup. Bolas + merchant feel like im playing standard and is overused in my view. Played few games with haunt of hightower to make me happy but... thats not 'it'.

    Also having critters trigger mana gain on discard during combat feel a bit wasted when I can spend it only on gutterbones revival

    Any ideas i can pursue?
     
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  4. Ranselknulf Arcane Patron

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    I get bored of mono colored decks, but one black card I have found to cause massive butthurt is Piper of the Swarm.

    I thought of it when you mentioned rats. I also know there are other rat cards that cause the opponent to discard that are standard legal right now.

    Most people ignore the piper of the swarm, but being able to take control of another players big creatures unexpectedly is awesome. Dropping 3 rats in a turn and sniping their heavy hitter can really turn a game from getting your ass beat to dominating (as long as you have the other proper support cards ofc). It's become more useful now with the indestructible theros enchantment creatures too.
     
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  5. lukaszek the determinator

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    I could actually switch my gears towards waste AND rats... there is some synergy to be had
     
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  6. Ranselknulf Arcane Patron

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    Considering making a red / black deck also. Lots of red rat creatures and other red cards to take control of creatures.
     
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  7. spectre Arcane

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    Mono black is a bit problematic because a lot of the good stuff is simply not there (Those cunts could release the shit from the beta and give us Torment of Hailfire at the very least).
    Otherwise, you're stuck with playing with stuff you already know from standard, or shit that was around in Dominaria.
    You can generate a crapton of resources with Cabal Stronghold, problem is in converting it into something meaningful.
    You should try and see if any artifacts catch your fancy, some of them go nicely with mono black (endlessly recurring shit with Memorial to Folly and Crucible of Worlds). Getting them off the sideboard toolbox with Karn can be good fun.
    In any case, be sure to try Phylactery Liches at some point, shit is fun if you hide the life source in a Treasure Map then turn it into a land. Not sure if people smartened up and are actually playing artifact removal, BG has answers,
    but from what I've seen around, a lot of decks don't.
    Agruel's Blood Fast is probably the best draw you'll get, then there are Dread Shades to convert mana into damage.

    If you are looking specifically to get some extra value out of recursion, there are things like Desecrated Tomb and Open the Graves to flood the board with shit.
     
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  8. lukaszek the determinator

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    yea, rats arent doing it
     
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  9. lukaszek the determinator

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    meh, time to get back to my graveyard deck... except i deleted it. Any chance someone saved it? too may pages in here... ubr one
     
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  10. Multi-headed Cow Cipher

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    With some casual searching the only one I'm kicking up has green instead of red. UBR's the usual reanimator with Drakuseth shenanigans, right?
     
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  11. Ranselknulf Arcane Patron

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    I hover around diamond tier with this deck.

    It's my go to if I just want to win to finish the daily quests.

    I usually force a person to run out of "steam" with this deck because it has so many cards in it. As long as I can survive to turn 8 or so, they are p. much done.

    I know its not perfect, but I like how it never plays the same each game. I almost have enough cards to build a killer red/green murder deck.

    I know i'm going to get shit for this but here it is!


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    4 Murder (M20) 109
    2 Island (WAR) 254
    2 Gravewaker (M20) 323
    4 Tranquil Cove (M20) 259
    1 Dungeon Geists (M20) 57
    4 Vampire of the Dire Moon (M20) 120
    4 Child of Night (GRN) 65
    4 Bloodthirsty Aerialist (M20) 91
    4 Dismal Backwater (M20) 245
    4 Dimir Guildgate (GRN) 245
    3 Spectral Sailor (M20) 76
    2 Cloudkin Seer (M20) 54
    3 Pacifism (M20) 32
    3 Swamp (ELD) 261
    4 Disenchant (M20) 14
    1 Plains (GRN) 260
    1 Bolas's Citadel (WAR) 79
    3 Stonecoil Serpent (ELD) 235
    1 Swamp (RNA) 262
    4 Ajani's Pridemate (WAR) 4
    2 Deputy of Detention (RNA) 165
    1 Warrant // Warden (RNA) 230
    3 Time Wipe (WAR) 223
    2 Hallowed Fountain (RNA) 251
    4 Azorius Guildgate (RNA) 243
    3 Didn't Say Please (ELD) 42
    3 Lawmage's Binding (RNA) 190
    2 Thief of Sanity (GRN) 205
    2 Nightveil Predator (GRN) 191
    4 Scoured Barrens (M20) 251
    3 Watery Grave (GRN) 259
    2 Castle Vantress (ELD) 242
    4 Knight of the Ebon Legion (M20) 105
    2 Orzhov Enforcer (RNA) 79
    4 Despark (WAR) 190
    4 Mortify (RNA) 192
    4 Tyrant's Scorn (WAR) 225
    1 Plains (ELD) 253
    1 Plains (ELD) 252
    2 Nightveil Sprite (GRN) 48
    2 Realm-Cloaked Giant (ELD) 26
    3 Godless Shrine (RNA) 248
    4 Orzhov Guildgate (RNA) 253
    3 Resolute Rider (ELD) 214
    1 Folio of Fancies (ELD) 46
    1 Wishclaw Talisman (ELD) 110
    2 Kaya's Wrath (RNA) 187
    1 Forever Young (ELD) 89
    1 Swamp (WAR) 258
    3 Conclave Tribunal (GRN) 6
    4 Epic Downfall (ELD) 85
    4 Senate Guildmage (RNA) 204
    1 Doom Whisperer (GRN) 69
    4 Consecrate // Consume (RNA) 224
    1 Revival // Revenge (RNA) 228
    2 Etrata, the Silencer (GRN) 170
    2 Plains (M19) 261
    3 Island (M19) 266
    1 Swamp (DAR) 260
    3 Castle Ardenvale (ELD) 238
    1 Island (ELD) 256
    2 Witch's Vengeance (ELD) 111
    2 Elite Guardmage (WAR) 195
    2 Sphinx of New Prahv (RNA) 208
    2 Plains (XLN) 263
    1 Seraph of the Scales (RNA) 205
    1 Ashiok, Dream Render (WAR) 228
    1 Plains (WAR) 252
    1 Plains (XLN) 261
    1 Island (M19) 267
    1 Swamp (DAR) 258
    1 Plains (DAR) 253
    2 Jace, Wielder of Mysteries (WAR) 54
    2 Bake into a Pie (ELD) 76
    2 Castle Locthwain (ELD) 241
    4 Evolving Wilds (M20) 246
    4 Fabled Passage (ELD) 244
    1 Gideon Blackblade (WAR) 13
    4 Island (XLN) 265
    3 The Magic Mirror (ELD) 51
    1 Vantress Gargoyle (ELD) 71
    1 Dovin, Architect of Law (RNA) 265
    1 Eyes Everywhere (RNA) 38
    2 Piper of the Swarm (ELD) 100
    2 Dawn of Hope (GRN) 8
    1 Island (WAR) 253
    1 The Elderspell (WAR) 89
    2 Lotus Field (M20) 249
    3 Murderous Rider (ELD) 97
    4 Gateway Plaza (WAR) 246
    4 Planar Cleansing (M20) 33
    1 Island (ELD) 254
    2 Kenrith, the Returned King (ELD) 303
    1 Ajani, Inspiring Leader (M20) 282
    1 Ritual of Soot (GRN) 84
    2 Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord (WAR) 217
    1 Swamp (ELD) 260
    2 Ethereal Absolution (RNA) 170
    2 Temple of Deceit (THB) 245
    2 The Birth of Meletis (THB) 5
    2 Temple of Enlightenment (THB) 246
    2 Temple of Silence (M20) 256
    1 Finale of Glory (WAR) 12
    1 God-Eternal Oketra (WAR) 16
    2 Prison Realm (WAR) 26
    1 Kaya's Ghostform (WAR) 94
    1 Ajani, Strength of the Pride (M20) 2
    1 Swamp (XLN) 271
    3 Merfolk Secretkeeper (ELD) 53
    1 Kiora Bests the Sea God (THB) 52
    1 Athreos, Shroud-Veiled (THB) 269
    1 Shadowspear (THB) 236
    1 Finale of Revelation (WAR) 51
    1 Agent of Treachery (M20) 43

     
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  12. lukaszek the determinator

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    this whiteness in historic disgusts me.
     
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  13. Dawkinsfan69 Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Bethestard

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    I built the RDW deck to see if playing with it changes perspective and shows weakness or something..

    There is no real weakness, this deck is fucking nuts. There are like 5 different ways to kill opponent by turn 3 or 4, and if that somehow doesn't happen you can just topdeck one of like 4 cards on any of the following turns to insta-kill. The only way it loses is if you get super unlucky with card draw or if you're in a mirror match.

    That said, I finished my weekly 15 wins in like 15 minutes which feels like cheating lmao

    stupid ass deck standard is retarded
     
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  14. spectre Arcane

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    FTFY.

    So you're saying there was no capable Fires operator to school you? It might get you out of gold, but from platinum up, the music stops. Lovestruck Beasts start to apear, people maindeck Aether Gust...
    Early game interaction is crucial to beat RDW. I usually drop a turn two Fae of Wishes then wipe the board on turn three, if there's Xanax present, he usually eats a banishing light or gets Teferi'd,
    two turns after the poor sod usually gets an Oketra + Cavalier of Flames in their face for a clean 21 damage out of nowhere.

    But yeah, it's rdw as its best, being top tier aggro, which means if you slip, miss a land drop, it fucking murders you. And will continue to do so until fucking Xanax and Embercleave rotate.
    Even with an anti-deck I would still lose in those circumstances, especially when they get the lucky Scorch Spitter and double Champion on the play. That's what Bo3 helps to iron out.

    Still, there are also those people who just don't read the fucking cards, had a guy kill himself by trying to teferi a Torbran under double Leyline of Combustion.
     
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  15. Uncreation Educated

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    I am currently playing a game of historic pauper vs a UG fog deck. No wincon, just deck the opponent the hard way. Is it one of you fucks? Some of you seem like the type, the kind of people that tortured small animals as kids to have fun.
     
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  16. Dawkinsfan69 Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Bethestard

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    I DO have a historic deck built like that however, sad to say, that was not me

    btw vs these types of troll decks I think your best option is to concede by like turn 8 if they're not dead or very close to dead.
     
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  17. spectre Arcane

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    Not me, I tend to play shit that works with decisive win conditions.
     
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  18. Uncreation Educated

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    This game made me wish there was a "block player" option, so you never get matched with that person ever.
     
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  19. Ranselknulf Arcane Patron

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    Just build a deck to defeat that asshat, then just keep quitting games until you meet the person again and spank their ass.
     
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  20. anvi Cipher Village Idiot

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    I haven't played this for a week, do you think many other people gave up on it? RDW ruined it for me.
     
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  21. lukaszek the determinator

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    just go to historic and crush white trash
     
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  22. anvi Cipher Village Idiot

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    Lol I still haven't tried Historic. I will give it a shot.
     
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  23. lukaszek the determinator

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    so... is new set still happening? Afaik there were no spoilers so far? Or are they going to delay release until I got all the cosmetics and 100k gold for drafts?
     
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  24. Dawkinsfan69 Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Bethestard

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    spoilers this weekend i think

    also I saw a pic of some godzilla card that I guess they made for the set?? keyword mutate is you pay some amount of mana to perma add an effect to the creature like deathtouch or something
     
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  25. Dawkinsfan69 Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Bethestard

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    [​IMG]
     
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