Official Codex Discord Server

  1. Welcome to rpgcodex.net, a site dedicated to discussing computer based role-playing games in a free and open fashion. We're less strict than other forums, but please refer to the rules.

    "This message is awaiting moderator approval": All new users must pass through our moderation queue before they will be able to post normally. Until your account has "passed" your posts will only be visible to yourself (and moderators) until they are approved. Give us a week to get around to approving / deleting / ignoring your mundane opinion on crap before hassling us about it. Once you have passed the moderation period (think of it as a test), you will be able to post normally, just like all the other retards.
    Dismiss Notice

Minigames in Alpha Protocol

Discussion in 'Obsidian Entertainment' started by Gnidrologist, Oct 6, 2018.

  1. Gnidrologist CONDUCTOR

    Gnidrologist
    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2005
    Messages:
    19,400
    Location:
    is cold
    Is there any way to play the game by completely ignoring those? I've started the tutorial with field agent, didn't want to be all shoot em' up guy, but it seems there's no other way if the alternative is to try learning these retarded twitchy piece of shit wastes of time. I literally don't ever see those stupid passwords i'm supposed to click in 'hacking' and other minigames are plain tedious.
    So, should i just go an kill em' all mode? Is that viable?
     
    ^ Top  
  2. Butter Educated

    Butter
    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2018
    Messages:
    238
    I gave up on AP when I got to the hacking mini-game.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Despair Despair x 2
    ^ Top  
  3. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer

    J_C
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2010
    Messages:
    14,216
    Location:
    Hungary
    Project: Eternity Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong
    I'm sure I will get a lot of flak for this, but the minigames in AP are the best minigames ever created. Seriously. They fit the theme perfectly, they had simple mechancis, yet were challenging. The only negative is that the hacking minigame was sometimes frustrating playing with a mouse and keyboard, it was clearly designed with a controller in mind. On the other hand, the other two were much simpler with a mouse than with a controller.
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2018
    • Brofist x 4
    • WTF am I reading x 3
    • Cheers!! x 1
    • Funny x 1
    • not sure if serious x 1
    • Agree x 1
    ^ Top  
  4. Gnidrologist CONDUCTOR

    Gnidrologist
    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2005
    Messages:
    19,400
    Location:
    is cold
    They are retarded and hacking i don't even got a clue how to solve those. I literally don't see the supposed passwords so it's a game stopper. They are surely developed for people, who are good at twitch gaming and i'm not one of those. Even if i were, i wouldn't waste the time if possible, because the ''challenge'' they present is basically pop a mole on the fastest setting.
     
    • retadred retadred x 3
    ^ Top  
  5. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer

    J_C
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2010
    Messages:
    14,216
    Location:
    Hungary
    Project: Eternity Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong
    It has nothing to do with twitch gaming. It is about being able to quickly notice patterns in a picture, which I understand that some people have problems with. Not everybody can be a superior human being like me. :smug:
     
    • Brofist Brofist x 2
    • Funny Funny x 1
    ^ Top  
  6. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

    Darth Roxor
    Joined:
    May 29, 2008
    Messages:
    1,871,303
    Location:
    Djibouti
     
    • Acknowledge this user's Agenda Acknowledge this user's Agenda x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Whatever shit you posted didn't load Whatever shit you posted didn't load x 1
    • Racist Racist x 1
    ^ Top  
  7. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

    Darth Roxor
    Joined:
    May 29, 2008
    Messages:
    1,871,303
    Location:
    Djibouti
    Sounds like you have some eyesight or neurological problem to me tbh and I'm not saying this as something derogatory.

    Anyway, you should just stock up on EMPs to bypass the minigames, though keep in mind that iirc "main objective" haxxung can't be skipped with them.
     
    • Brofist Brofist x 1
    ^ Top  
  8. Neanderthal Arcane

    Neanderthal
    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2015
    Messages:
    2,887
    Location:
    Granbretan
    Theres a couple o skills that mitigate em isn't there, after i'd got a few points in them I found games a lot easier.

    You can use electric grenades as well if I remember right.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    ^ Top  
  9. Tito Anic Magister

    Tito Anic
    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2015
    Messages:
    1,475
    Location:
    Magalan
    Literally my experience.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    ^ Top  
  10. Alex betthurt

    Alex
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2007
    Messages:
    4,529
    Location:
    São Paulo - Brasil
    Just play a better game.
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
    • Yes Yes x 1
    • Salute Salute x 1
    ^ Top  
  11. Gnidrologist CONDUCTOR

    Gnidrologist
    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2005
    Messages:
    19,400
    Location:
    is cold
    Well, look. Not everybody can be autistic pattern recognitor, k. I get it. Why implement this shit in a game that is of different genre?
     
    • Makes you think... Makes you think... x 1
    ^ Top  
  12. Gnidrologist CONDUCTOR

    Gnidrologist
    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2005
    Messages:
    19,400
    Location:
    is cold
    Sounds like that.
     
    ^ Top  
  13. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer

    J_C
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2010
    Messages:
    14,216
    Location:
    Hungary
    Project: Eternity Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong
    There is no better game than Alpha Protocol!!!
     
    • Agree Agree x 7
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS x 1
    ^ Top  
  14. Safav Hamon Liturgist Village Idiot The Real Fanboy

    Safav Hamon
    Joined:
    May 15, 2018
    Messages:
    1,733
    The hacking is confusing at first, but unless you have a physical disability it shouldn't be hard.
     
    ^ Top  
  15. Tito Anic Magister

    Tito Anic
    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2015
    Messages:
    1,475
    Location:
    Magalan
    Because it is based on your skill. Good hacking is in Deus Ex, Underrail because it is based on your chars skill. RPG duh!
     
    • Brofist Brofist x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
    ^ Top  
  16. Gnidrologist CONDUCTOR

    Gnidrologist
    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2005
    Messages:
    19,400
    Location:
    is cold
    elex?
     
    • retadred retadred x 2
    • Yes Yes x 1
    • Makes you think... Makes you think... x 1
    ^ Top  
  17. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite Sawyerist Sawyer's Bride No Fun Allowed

    Roguey
    Joined:
    May 29, 2010
    Messages:
    24,394
    The hardest hacks are barely doable without getting points into "make these things easier", though they're optional and that's what EMPs are for.

    Additionally, playing AP on hard also increases the difficulty of minigames. Don't play on hard.
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
    ^ Top  
  18. Raghar Arcane

    Raghar
    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2009
    Messages:
    10,809
    They are not twitchi, and considering even I physically disabled could play these minigames. (Not necessary shooting part of that, but I played ironman, so I tried to not let myself killed by jumping in the middle of enemies. I suggest to pause ironman if you go to fight with that old man with his Deus Vult ideas.)
    Frankly, the ONLY problem with these minigames is they are designed for controller, and it would take a while to find what keys are used for second half.

    Also, when you play rookie and think they would allow to go back in conversation, and say wait a minute, I actually need some training. They don't. You go to mission 2 level lower than otherwise. And that's harsh when you get certain mission as first. You know ironman... (Well, at least don't take SMG pistol/shotgun combination on that mission.)

    Also rifles are OP, if you think it's too easy, don't use them. (If you roleplay agent, you don't want to abuse them anyway, because it will not be in correct style.)
     
    ^ Top  
  19. FreeKaner Prophet of the Dumpsterfire

    FreeKaner
    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2015
    Messages:
    3,702
    Location:
    Devlet-i ʿAlīye-i ʿErdogānīye
    Minigames are the only challenge in the game so you better get good at them.
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Informative Informative x 1
    ^ Top  
  20. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

    Tigranes
    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2009
    Messages:
    7,618
    Serpent in the Staglands Torment: Tides of Numenera
    Get some EMPs, play a busting-doors type instead of a ghost-type, and you'll very rarely have to deal with minigames.

    If you do play them, they're not particularly amazing, but they're very easy and simple.
    • Locks - there's a clear 'hang' moment when you get extra resistance, and your pick is pointing at the narrow strip around the middle of the lock.
    • Hacking - use WSAD on left hand and mouse on the right to move both 'cursors' simultaneously, don't try to read the letters but scan the screen to detect the letters that aren't moving. You can generally find at least one of them within 3 seconds.
    The problem was that on release, AP had some retarded mouse acceleration fuckery going on, which caused probably the top 2 complaints with the game: (1) jerky camera, (2) impossible to do minigames because your cursor would fly around. That's mostly fixed, and you can also further adjust .ini files for it.
     
    • Brofist Brofist x 2
    ^ Top  
  21. Vlajdermen Learned

    Vlajdermen
    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2017
    Messages:
    164
    Location:
    Vukojebina, Croatia
    There's a set of gloves you get early on that make the minigames a breeze. You can't bypass them completely but you can at least soften the blow.
     
    ^ Top  
  22. cloudropis Novice

    cloudropis
    Joined:
    May 25, 2014
    Messages:
    9
    Go fast w/ wasd
    Go slow w/ mouse
    I swear this is the Capra Demon of AP, a complete non-issue that seems to bother everyone. It's not exactly Brood War.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    ^ Top  
  23. IHaveHugeNick Arcane

    IHaveHugeNick
    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2015
    Messages:
    1,868,105
    Location:
    edge of a melon
    The problem with hacking was the retarded controls.
     
    ^ Top  
  24. Quillon Cipher

    Quillon
    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2016
    Messages:
    2,850
    Problem was they ripped the minigame off of newspapers :P
     
    ^ Top  
  25. JDR13 Augur

    JDR13
    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2006
    Messages:
    220
    Location:
    The Swamp
    You've obviously never played System Shock.

    To this day, there's never been better hacking in a game.
     
    • Brofist Brofist x 1
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
    • FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS x 1
    ^ Top  

(buying stuff via the above buttons helps us pay the hosting bills, thanks!)