Incline Monster Hunter World - G-rank edition. Now on PC.

Also check to make sure you're at the right range. For anyone wanting to try bows/bowguns, you should fire when your targeting reticle has a secondary circle inside the usual one, which means you're at the correct distance to get the maximum damage (which differs for the various ammo types).



You want it to look like the one on the right. You'll do far less damage outside of this range.

The more you know!

 

Oh yeah, that'd be why. I modded for Recoil x3 since it allows for very rapid fire.

If I want to deal damage from Switch Axe range I'll probably just use the SA though, but it's nice to know I have the option of using a ranged weapon from melee range also.

 

The Switch Axe is like a cross between Longsword and Great Sword with the best reach for a melee, but I find you have to do long combos to get the most out of it which tends to result in you getting hit. Could just smack shit in axe mode but meh.

Get the Barroth Switch Axe and get Free Element to X3: you'll have the best weapon with built-in Paralysis.

You'll want to get good with one of the ranged weapons for dealing with Kirin and Kushala Daora. It's not a great idea to get hit often when they are tempered.

Dual Blades are the best melee weapon hands down, especially when you can mix in Mushroomancer X3: you can grow Devil's Blight which are Dash Juices. I prefer the Fire & Ice DBs in the base game + either lots of Handicraft or Master's Touch from Fire Lion. Also has slide spin-to-win. Fire & Ice is probably the best DBs in the base game: nothing resists both Ice and Blast and it also has 10% affinity.

Hammer is another solid choice though it struggles against the really fast monsters. Does massive stun damage though and has flying spin-to-win. Diablos Hammer is the best choice. I find it to be the best "heavy weapon". Really kicks the crap out of anything weak to Stun.

HBG w/ Cluster bombs (either Zorah in base game or Deviljho with expansions), LBGs using triple elemental shot or triple Normal shot 2 (Karma), and Elemental Bows are your best changed options.

Mobility or ranged attacks are just key in this game when you start fighting harder shit.

 

I've carefully crept back and forth to find the exact minimal range (meaning this is the furthest away you can be) at which you receive Close Range x3's damage boost:

You could literally pee on it from here.

I disagree. I've used both and I find the IG has comparable damage with much better reach, mobility, and utility.

 

Blaine

Never been impressed with the Insect Glaive: if I'm fighting something that flies I'd rather use a Bow/LBG/HBG and other melee weapons are better on the ground.

Plus I hate micro-managing the insect.

EDIT: I'd absolutely choose the IG over the Greatsword and Lance though, for example.

 

Alright Blaine lets do a E-peen test:

There's a High Rank optional quest called Hard To Swallow. It's just a Great Jagris hunt. Do a test run and tell me how fast you can kill it with your Insect Glaive.

My time with my Fire & Ice dual blade + some random base game janky gear (to enable Mushroomancer basically):

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2 minutes 00.49 seconds.

 

I got dumped into the treetops and lost about ten seconds fast traveling to camp. Typical.

Doesn't really matter. The point is just that they're comparable; I have no doubt the DBs have somewhat higher DPS, all else being equal. They'd better, since that's literally all they do.

I once killed Tzitzi in about two minutes when I had next to zero offensive skills and a R6 version of this IG, just testing it out for the very first time.

 

Fast Nergigante hunt:

And I've encountered the first hacker: I sent the SOS flare, he joined and then he proceeded to one-shot the monster. I was nowhere near the monster.

Edit: By they way, I got a commendation after a Nergigante fight for the most damage and it was like 11k of damage (!?).

 

I might give IG a go.

I always wanted to invest in them but the insect was a turn off. You may have convinced me Blaine.

In other news:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHun...s_time_for_monster_hunter_veterans_to_accept/

 

We know you don't like old MH games, that's fine and all though it feels out of place on a forum that revels in older games with a lack of polish. But do you really have to post your troll Reddit post like a badge of honor? It's fucking Reddit, for one, and for two everyone knows Monster Hunter controls like shit, everyone who's played on PSP can't shut up about how they had to do claw for 500-1000 hours or whatever and that hasn't really changed with it being on 3DS. It's just that no one cares since the game is great fun anyways. And yea I know you mean the in-game controls and not the hardware controller but still.

 

Yes.

Reddit is full of cucks and shills that would want nothing more than for America to die. Fuck them.


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Older games also had more than acceptable controls or GUI.

Fallout 1 for example. Excellent GUI even if the combat is kinda lackluster. Being older does not excuse having bad controls or terrible game design elements.

 

mogwaimon

I give you free entertainment. Just enjoy it dont be a scrub.

 

You get used to harvesting with the kinsect eventually. Just make sure to only create bugs with either very high speed and power, or alternately very high speed and heal if you want to de-emphasize the bug's incidental damage (which truly adds up, I feel) and heal off monster tails on the regular. Speed is the bug's literal speed whenever it's sent off to harvest or auto-attack, and if speed is low, you'll want to commit suicide because that fucking piece of shit will slowboat across the arena at about 2 KPH.

Two things to note: You don't have to call back the kinsect if you miss a harvest/harvest the wrong extract. You can tap light attack again and it'll move to your new reticle position and harvest from there instead. Also, try to gather red and white (preferably) or red and orange extracts only, then gather the third color a little while later. This helps to refresh, or at least somewhat refresh, the timer until all of your kinsect buffs wear off; once you have all three colors, that's it. They'll all wear off after a set time, even if you try to gather more extract. That being said, gathering extract refreshes the insect's stamina even if you don't need the extract, and can be a way to prolong its auto-attack mode (which uses up insect stamina) between actual buff-harvesting sessions.

Finally, don't worry too much about the auto-targeting mode/elemental contact clouds right away. Get used to harvesting and orienting/performing aerial combos first. That said, for the most part the auto-molest mode is fire and forget and takes only an extra split-second to do once you're used to it.

 

YES

 

DragoFireheart I've been hard at work on /vg/ myself.

No one took the bait this time, proud of those kids.

 

Blaine look at my topic on reddit

eat your fucking heart out

 

Exactly, fucking with Reddit is like pushing around an autistic kid, it's fun for you but everyone who sees it is gonna be like '...why?'

In regards to game elements, I never said that being an older game excuses poor execution, I was more getting at, you know, it can be enjoyed anyways. Resident Evil 1, 2, and 3 have avatars that control like tanks and no one really likes the controls but the games are still lauded as some of the best/essential of all time. Pretty much all of the classics that are held up on this site have some major flaws and yet people love the games anyways because they become accustomed to said flaws, likely because they put more than an hour into the games. I believe you've said in other topics that you've only put an hour into the MHGU demo before writing it off for bad graphics (Which is true for the time we live in but it is a 3DS port) and bad controls, which....I mean, I don't get it really, it's pretty much similar to MHW except in MHW you can finally dodge backwards?

Well, whatever, we all have our tastes but you still shouldn't feel proud of fucking with Reddit, they're morons.

 

For my amusement.

The controls are simply more fluid and intuitive in MHW. Even for the slow weapons.

I don't have the right words for it, but in my 20+ years in playing video games you learn when a game has good controls and when a game has shit controls. Like a game where you press Up on the D-Pad to jump. Shit like that.

It's not a matter of pride. It's like pissing off the girls in your history class: lol

 

Pissing them off? Those girls are the ones you should be fucking with TBQH desu senpai.

Also up on the D-pad to jump is sacrilege for everything except fighting games.

 

Exactly: you get them mad first, then you fuck them. Women are used to betas trying to please them: pissing them off confuses them.

And if it doesn't work? Oh well.

It always felt awkward even in fighting games but I won't go there...

 

This explains why it seemed so clunky and shit when I initially tried it. I couldn't fathom how the fuck I was going to maintain the buffs and still have a decent amount of time to dish out damage when it took forever and had shit accuracy. Maybe I'll give it another try, but I still can't imagine it being a match for the dual swords' evasiveness or damage, it'd basically be a good way to go after tails without using a longsword or spear.

 

You need to get more imaginative!

DragoFireheart's Jagras test was all fine and good, but it was actually biased against the IG due to the fact that I had to harvest extracts as an opener but finished the fight well before they expired. I also didn't send the kinsect to auto-attack and create clouds. A nearly-passive pseudo-DoT dealing 12 damage here, 10 damage there over the course of most of a fight really adds up (to well over 1,000, eventually), and contributes to sever and KO thresholds, depending on kinsect type. In addition, the clouds kinsects create can be struck to deal additional damage (again, depending on type), usually in the realm of 90-120 before the cloud expires.

As for mobility and evasiveness, the IG has tons of it, but largely aerial rather than ground-bound. How useful and "safe" this is varies from monster to monster. If done correctly, you can trash Vaal Hazak's wings (and at the end of the animation, its face) while it's doing its fart nova without taking a hit;, you can continue ripping up Xeno's wings when it does its blue crush explosion without taking a hit; and there are many other examples. When other players have no choice but to back away or get carted, you can flip and spin around like an asshole continuing to deal middling damage (it's substantially less than ground combos, but fast and constant) and triggering kinsect dust explosions. Absolutely no other weapon in the game can run a spinning riot up and down a flying dragon's body while it's fully aloft, for example.

Of course, you can pole-vault over, away from, or out of danger as well. No other weapon can do that, either, so unique tactical maneuvers are available to you.

If you play it for long enough, you'll begin to see what I mean. The mounting aspect of it is of minimal interest to me, actually, although of course mounting is useful in its own right.

 

My measure of evasiveness is how late you can react to something and still get away unscathed, by that metric, the demon mode 'roll' is practically teleportation, and the insect glaive vault and the longsword's foresight slash are so slow you may as well sheathe and superman dive.

Consistent damage is certainly a plus (it's what I like about the lance more than anything else) but it's of niche usefulness, while short notice evasion and high burst damage are useful in every fight.

 

Well, everyone has a different playstyle. It's worth noting however that IG can function just fine without Wiggly Litchis, Dash Juice, pig hat, or any stamina-saving armor skills whatsoever, although aerial combos benefit from them substantially. Furthermore, IG can easily take advantage of skills that rely on a full stamina bar during ground combos, whereas DBs in Not Garbage Mode can't. This is a textbook example of greater versatility. One way or another, you're chained to stamina with DBs, and combating rapid stamina depletion for any prolonged length of time is a significant sacrifice in skill slots and/or consumables.
On a different note, I've just assembled the unironically and objectively best armor set in the game.

 

Finally managed to build a fairly decent bowgun: The Gluttonous Fangcannon. Most of the good HBGs aren't available yet, and the superior Spread HBGs aren't, but this will do in the meantime.

Man, the shielded HBG/Palico Rally/Meowlotov Cocktail/Cluster Bomb meme is real. It took me barely more than 10 minutes to beat Nerg with this shit, broke both horns, and I had 0 experience with the weapon at that point outside of training. I even wandered around grabbing tracks and shit for more investigations. I can easily see getting the completion time down to a tasty 8m, before endgame augmentation or any particularly OP jewel/gear min-maxing.