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Obsidian or inXile

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Makabb, Mar 28, 2015.

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  1. Obsidian

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    45.1%
  2. Inxile

    34 vote(s)
    20.7%
  3. bioware desu~~~~

    28 vote(s)
    17.1%
  4. Both

    28 vote(s)
    17.1%
  1. naossano Cipher

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    Not being much a combatfag on InXile/Obsidian, i won't compare them much on that area. Although, i think Obsidian provides more option, including the options to avoid fights.

    About writting, i would put Obsidian much, much higher than InXile.

    About atmosphere, it really depends on the games, their budget & schedule, but i would say both are able to create great atmosphere, but are rarelly able to sustain it all the way. There are alway several moments that feel a bit off compared with the rest. Also, too much combat/emptyness can ruin the momentum, like in FoNV.

    About C&C, comparing Fo1/Fo2/FoNV/Pillars with WL1/WL2/Bard's Tale (2004), i also much prefer Obsidian take on it. For most i have played from InXile, the choices you make often seem dark about the possible consequences. Sometimes, you can guess them, but more often than not, you pick a side without much knowing where you put your shoes into. On the other hand, those situations still exist with Obsidian, but more often than not, you are given (if you try to look into it), enough informations to actually weight the pros and cons of your decisions, which make them more meaningfull, and allow you to take a break and actually think about it. It is not like entering a town and see a guy drowing, leading you to lose all hope of peace if you don't save him within your first few minutes in the city. Also, the number of choices and their scope are often higher with Obsidian.

    Exploration. It is entirelly up to anyone to decide what they call exploration. If it is seeing miles of miles of landscapes, i won't comment on it. If it is exploring societies, how people live in these fictionnals settlements, i would say i prefer Obsidian, InXile isn't so bad. If it is about discovering non obvious hidden content that lead to unexpected results, i would give props to InXile, with the so many easy to miss contents that you could find in WL1-WL2. If you aren't into the mind of looking into every bit of dirt, every furniture, checking every wall for possible flaws/irregularity, you are likely to miss half the games content. It seems that this kind of exploration is more rewarded with InXile.

    Other than than, Obsidian wins overall. They also have a much higher number of games to refer too. I am quite in the Dark about pre-Fallout Interplay era (without the future Obsidian members) and InXile didn't do much since it existed. On the other hand, Obsidian did a lot of game with that name, and i credit them most of the games from the Interplay (from Fo1 onward)/Black Isle/Troïka era, since most the develloppers joined Obsidian afterward.
     
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  2. Obsidian, although the only genuinely good game they've released is FNV. The rest are like even more malformed Troika games, where there's something good under a pile of sludge. Inexile hasn't even got that though. Not a particularly fair poll, putting a cripple against a corpse.
     
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  3. KK1001 Savant

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    I have faith that from a narrative and C&C perspective Torment will blow PoE away. The companions will probably be better written and more interesting, too, but who knows. The world of Numenera is pretty ill-defined and so you can just do whatever because ~mystery~.

    Wasteland 2 had a lot of tedious combat and a disgusting art direction. If inExile is to be believed, Torment shouldn't have a lot of that.

    The real question is how fast and how much can inExile improve as a company. Obsidian has been stuck making mediocre, half-finished products for a decade now and they seem pretty stuck in their ways.
     
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  4. cfisher2833 Learned

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    Overall I'd say PoE is the better game, but when it comes to the writing, I think they're somewhat equal. While PoE's has a great plot so far, the actual writing itself isn't all that great--it's incredibly apparent that Avellone wrote Grieving Mother and Durance, as the writing is far, far more evocative than the writing throughout the majority of the game, which to me, feels more like Baldur's Gate or Icewind Dale calibre writing. Wasteland 2 at least had some cooky writing that was a bit more interesting at times. I think it'd be best to wait until Torment before making any pronouncements.
     
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  5. DragoFireheart all caps, rainbow colors, SOMETHING.

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    Inxile because last I checked they have a spine.

    Then again, doesn't InXile play nice with Obsidian?
     
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  6. Volrath Arcane Patron

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    :butthurt:
     
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  7. Owlish Arcane

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    Yes, you are.
     
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  8. tyrannosaurus rex Unwanted Douchebag! Shitposter

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    He isn't the one with GG 4chan links in his sig and voting against a compagny for one removed backer fanfiction.
     
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  9. Owlish Arcane

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    He's just the Obsidian fanboy.
     
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  10. tyrannosaurus rex Unwanted Douchebag! Shitposter

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    But he isn't wrong here.
     
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  11. DragoFireheart all caps, rainbow colors, SOMETHING.

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    I don't have any 4chan links.
     
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  12. SoupNazi Arcane Patron

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    I haven't managed to play Wasteland 2 after the first hour or so (probably even less), but thought it was just me. Now I see the opinion here is generally bad, but I'm a lazyfag and don't want to go through the 100+ pages of decline - can someone sum up what was wrong with it? I don't find it memorable at all and I don't even remember why I didn't like it, just that it didn't grip me at all.
     
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  13. Turjan Arcane

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    Yeah, about that...

     
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  14. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
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  15. Owlish Arcane

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    Anita Sarkesian just updated her .txt
     
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  16. Ovplain Arcane

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    inXile for me. Because I really loved Wasteland 2!

    Couldn't force myself to finish NWN 2, gave up on Alpha Protocol after an hour or so, same with Fallout - New Vegas. I think Kotor 2 was the only Obsidian game I actually finished.:S Played 15 hours of Pillars of Eternity and can't be assed to play more ATM.:|
     
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  17. SoupNazi Arcane Patron

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    Oh ok.

    This thread is very misleading then. Serves me right for judging the Codex based on a few posts in a shitpost thread.
     
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  18. Mexi Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    Yeah, I'm not sure how this game got good reviews here on this site. This site hates everything and Wasteland: 2 generally did suck.
     
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  19. TheGreatOne Arcane

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    If inXile survives long enough to release Bard's Tale 4, then you can try to make some kind of comparisions of the companies as whole. Even then it's a former mobile developer vs former Star Wars/South Park/Fallout 3 sequel developer, Obsidian is financially in way different league.
    I don't know how much more money Obsidian got from their own fanbase/publishers, but just starting at the visuals, they used their 3,9 million kickstarer dollars way better than inXile used their 2,9, so PoE wins in that ratio hands down.
    Dragon Age Origins sez hi. Wait a few weeks untill the honeymoon period with PoE ends, happened to Shadowrun, D:OS and Wasteland 2 as well. Hell, there's already complaints about the ridicolous trash loot, item&character progression, encounter design&combat and even writing.
    Ftfy. Talking about amateurs is ridicolous considering how notoriously buggy Obsidian games are :lol: Wasteland 2 is a second rate product, but it's more of an eye sore and stretched too thin than anything else. Trying to be one of the big boys and failing at it is worse than being an honest small time developer.
     
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  20. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite Sawyerist Sawyer's Bride No Fun Allowed

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    Both projects went over budget, but we know that inXile had to nearly double theirs. :P

    The GOTY version may end up proving that you do in fact need nearly 3.5 years to properly make a full-scale RPG.
     
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  21. DeepOcean Arcane

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    Pointless asking this now, wait for Torment. Torment seems to have designers that aren't over concerned with dumbfucks and "balance" and actually are trying to create a better Torment game instead of a watered down BG 2. Obviously, InXile could shit themselves really hard again like they did with Wasteland 2 but I still hope one single kickstarter RPG will actually produce something that isn't just good for what it is.
     
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  22. prodigydancer Magister In My Safe Space

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    Codex is for people who hate RPGs.
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    I know I'm not saying anything new but it's probably worth repeating. PoE hate cauldron is already bubbling and TToN will share the same fate - initial nerdgasm followed by a thousand pages worth of discussing how shitty the game and everything in it is.
     
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  23. Irenaeus Self-Ejected Patron Dumbfuck Repressed Homosexual The Real Fanboy

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    Both. I liked both WL2 and PoE (which is an instant classic 10/10 IMO). I have high hopes for Tournament Tildes of Numareira (for which I pledged $300).
     
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  24. Durante Learned Patron

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    Not just in terms of presentation.
     
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