Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity [BETA RELEASED, GO TO THE NEW THREAD]

While cripple conjures images of kids with polio.

 

Personally I always thought of the word as meaning "permanently injured" or "disfigured", the most common use of the word I've come across in England at least is "Mained by a [insert wild animal here]", and that doesn't normally involve losing limbs. I don't know what the use of the word is like in the USA, but for me, maimed would be fine.

What I understand when they say "Maimed characters can walk around like normal and can participate in combat, but they are weak and vulnerable combatants who are likely to drop in a single hit." is that they can fight, and the will be included in any fights you enter, but doing so is a really bad idea as their damage and defences will be reduced and they will fall really easily if an enemy turns on them.

 

Oh God, the virus is spreading.

 

Touché

 

you're forgetting that sawyer changed the maim rules. if you die while being maimed, you die. even on easy.

 

That sounds very adventury, I like it. Does anyone know if the dungeons will be backtrack blocked, so you can't just leave, go back to the city to rest etc etc. I mean yeah it's a matter of self control but I'm just curious.

 

I felt the way Co8's moathouse went into defensive positions if you made a raid and left was a nice obstacle to such behavior without feeling artificial in the slightest.

 

Man, that does sound pretty good.

 

You sound like the very model of a modern major-general.

Also, I'm not sure if this was already posted (it's from April):

 

The fact that you care so much about which piece of trivia is in what book makes you grognardy as hell. File this under "Who cares?"

 

There should be a cheapass room that infects the player with brain rot. Now that's adventury.

 

Shudup

Alright!

 

The fact that you have no idea why each piece of information is yet another reason why i think you simply dont "get it". There are reasons the content has been distributed the way it has, and it is pure ignorance to claim otherwise or diminish its importance.

 

I will laugh at anyone who genuinely gets upset over magic items appearing in the 4e PHB.

 

Its kinda funny that the one obsessed about a game dev and his design choices would laugh at people that dont like a crappy design choice.
Na wait, funny is not the word im looking for, the one im looking for is retarded.

Anyway, carry on.

 

I think magic items should be in the DMG, since they should be looked at as rewards and not something players plan to specifically acquire at some point. I don't hate 4E for putting them in the PHB, though. I have many other reasons to hate 4E, I don't need such a trivial one.

 

It's completely arbitrary, if a player wanted to look at magic items.... he could go and look at the magic items. It makes no fucking difference what book they are in. It's not like you start reading and then go "OH SHIT, I just accidentally read about the +2 sword of flaming-ass death!!" If a person is interested in something they will look it up, if they are so hardcore that they plan what items they need to make a OP character, they will just get the DMG anyway, especially with the internet around. If you are completely new to D&D and read a magic item it will be meaningless to you anyway, just a 'Hey that would be kinda cool' reaction.

Aside from maybe saving space or using the space for something else.... there is no reason not to include the magic items in both.

 

No Dreaad, it does make a difference, the needs of a PnP player are specific. We often need to carry a book that has the essentials, thus we have the PHB, everything else we can read at home. The PHB must have everything needed to make a campaign on the fly and still be malleable, Also, the bigger is the book the more time you spend flipping tru pages trying to find that one drawing you thought was cool and wanted to show your friend, or that one table that covered the dice roll, etc. Index and table of contents solve this somewhat but are seldom used.
Some times you have to walk, sometimes you have to take a bus, other times you gotta ride a bike or a motorcycle. and you dont have the luxury of bringing all your books. Some times its in a cabin in the woods where there is no eletricity, others its on a poor neighborhood without internet. Sometimes a friend wants to try out DMing that very same afternoon, new campaign, new characters, etc.

The PHB was created with those (and others) very specific needs in mind, it was created by avid DnD players and it shows. If you cant understand those needs, then you are NOT a PnP player.

 

C'mon man everyone knows +2 weapons don't get names.

 

Oh man. So now you are implying that an extra 15-30 pages would somehow make the PHB too large to fit on the bus with you?

Wouldn't you rather get more bang for your buck, instead of being able to flip to that picture you really like 0.0000001 seconds faster?

"Index and table of content are rarely used"??? I suppose you're too busy trying to flip to that picture you liek, too bad they didn't have that in the Index right

You should be on the stage dude.

 

God you are a retard.

The pages can be used to expand on something actually useful instead of useless shit, and it takes minutes at a time. If you have ever seen a counter monkey youll know what i mean. The more in a hurry you are and the better you think you remember where it was, the longer it takes.
It has literally no reason to be there, it is a turd on top of your icecream, sure, its extra and free, but ITS A FUCKING TURD.

 

This thread has reached a new low.

Quick! Everyone, look at what I found at the Obs forums:

 

Here are some follow ups to the Stealth and Combat discussion that Infinitron quoted on the previous page:

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/66131-stealth-and-combat/page-2#entry1451363

To me, Perception (Interrupt / Penetration) still seems like it might be a "dump" stat for some classes, such as Priests, Druids and Wizards who will spend a lot of combat time casting buffs / crowd control / AoE spells with not as much focus on attacks with a high interrupt value.

 

It seems arbitrary what would go in each book. It's not like you're running a casino, your players can just buy the DM guide if they want to know about magic items and high level abilities. Plus the transportation angle is fairly meaningless in a world where kids getting into this will all inevitably be reading this shit off their tablets or phones or whatever sooner than later. Even without that, kids haul textbooks around every day for years, you're telling me they won't carry a slightly thicker book to play a game? Regardless, it's one of those things where people are just used to a certain workflow and don't like it changed, but it's not a good reason in my mind.