Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity [BETA RELEASED, GO TO THE NEW THREAD]

Playing the games is for plebs without any taste and just would get in the way of the flamewars anyway.

 

Yeah. It makes no sense to join places like RPG codex anyway, right?

 

Your definition of shitposting is becoming "people that don't agree with me." Don't be that guy. And don't presume I act differently than I normally would because I'm staff.

Oh fuck off. Go read my old posts. I was immensely supportive of this project. I reacted negatively on game design updates and the content within them while you turn the blind eye. Now you just box every critical voice in a common sphere of "haters"? Me and evdk are not Skyway man, and you're a fool for suggesting it. We're simply voicing concerns. Your reaction to just say "no way, that can't be" is telling. At least Roguey makes a case for her apologetic defense.

 

Captain Shrek
You join the Codex for /gd/.

Infinitron
"different kind of decline"? What the fuck, man? Are you trolling?

 

Infinitron
You yourself admit it's a decline. What kind of decline it is does not really enter into it. Why should I care that there are people who enjoy the changes? There alway such people and they are idiots akin to those that celebrated Oblivon's dumbing down streamlining.
I am personally waiting for some more indepth magic info to decide whether the project has gone downhill for real or not, but none of the newly released news went beyond "well, duh!" reaction from me so far.

 

No we're not. We're scaling back our expectations. By being critical. There is a major difference. You perceive us as Skyways, Cassidys and Blacks who are all or nothing.

 

This is a spiritual successor to the IE games, not fucking Oblivion.

Likewise, if one wants to emulate old school RPGs effectively, you must also stand back and look at the flaws those games possessed and find a way to address them. Games like Arcanum are considered classics IN SPITE of their numerous flaws. I think Sawyer did a good job with this on NV. Of course, FO3 was such a piece of shit that it wouldn't be particularly difficult to improve on its mechanics, but still.

 

I'm with Infinitron on this one. Way too much premature bitching in these kind of threads.
Just like with sports like soccer, football, baseball etc. where everyone knows better than the (professional) trainers, everyone here is a genius game designer. M:

 

TRAIN TICKETS BITCH

 

So I still haven't seen any good explanation why this new inventory is so bad, except for the same old codex buzzwords. You guys realize that if the entire "top of the pack" thing is implemented, it adds more of a strategic layer to the inventory than there ever was in IE? As mentioned (and never contested) inventory management in IE was busywork at best, and contained no strategic thought. As the top of the pack thing adds a nonzero amount of strategy, it is you guys who are being consoletards for whining about increased strategic debth.


Typical declinefags.

 

I'd fist you but DU hates us plebs.

 

herostratus
"Top of the pack" is Grunker's beef, my main source of ire is the stash.

 

Arguing about inventory.

 

This is the Codex, of course we are arguing about the inventory.

 

This is the Codex. Everyone argues about everything.

 

You're more observant than to use such a blatant strawman. Find each and every post about inventory from me and show where I complain about the inventory in the manner you suggest. I complain that the inventory might use a list-function or system, which is much more messy than the IE-inventory.

Besides, this is a complete diversion from the fact that we were arguing on the basis of a bunch of things, and you pick out inventory as though it was our most glorious and prime example of TEH DECLINE.

So basically yeah, typical declinefags.

 

Pretty much. Bioware changed inventory system purely to make it work on a gamepad, so there was at least a rationale of sort, even if one associated with the decline.