Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity [BETA RELEASED, GO TO THE NEW THREAD]

People like you are why creativity flounders in the gaming industry. You don't want something fresh and interesting to engage that vestigial structure of yours you call a brain. You would be ecstatic if they kept shoveling you the same software every day just as long as it satisfies your visual cortex. Your opinion is as worthless as you because the rest of us can satisfy ourselves by replaying those old favorites without having to pay cash for a new visual update every so often. In fact, those who are interested in improving upon the graphics of the games of old, usually do so free of charge and distribute their works in the community.

When a company states that they are making a new game, I generally expect it to be more than a mod job of an old favorite.

 

Keep thinking on it. Maybe I should draw you a picture so you can understand me, eh?

 

Shrek, bro, when you say you don't like graphics, what game are you talking about ?

 

Are you talking about Project Eternity ? Because I only know of one screenshot, the one with the waterfall. Have there been more ?

 

I said "fun for them" but I do believe the Bioware games I have played are, for the most part, more fun to play than most of Obsidian's output (exceptions being New Vegas and DS3). They're also saddled with obnoxious writing.

 

The dialogue and characters have always rubbed me the wrong way and they feel like stories being written by people who consume nothing but pop culture.

I thought they were both decent enough. I expect much better from Josh Sawyer of course and he does too.

 

DA:O does 4 person combat better than NWN2 does.

ME is better popamole than AP.

Roguey has a point.

 

DA:O has 4 person combats where only one character class truly matters (Mage) and is more riddled with stupid than NWN2 (potions!).

It doesn't, however, have 20 000 enemies in every room.

 

Bah! NWN2 should be played with a 6 person party (modded, of course, especially with the tools of SoZ) like D&D is meant to be played.

 

Regurgitating pop culture tends to result in derivative works. There's a "making a photocopy of a photocopy" metaphor here, the image degrades.

Infinitron, Bioware duh.

 

I thought the capitalised Not was a marvellous philosonerd joke about Hegel, but then I realised it wasn't.

So how do Bioware games not fall under your above problem Roguey? Leaving aside that pop culture in our times is defined by that self-referentiality. And I hardly think Ghost in the Shell quoting Zizek and Heidegger at every turn is any better.

 

I'm not sure what point anyone's trying to drive home here. It appears to be a clumsy pissing contest over how many legitimate criticisms can be heaped onto each developer, with the vague notion that whoever's pile of insults is the smallest wins.

My opinion's fairly simple. As of recently, BioWare jumped the shark on a rocket-powered pair of waterskis... and the frosting on the cake is The Old Republic, which is a World of Warcraft clone that's far shittier than World of Warcraft itself. Politically correct, omnisexual relationshipping, fanfic-tier, hand-holding, press-A-to-win lowest-denomination-catering is now BioWare's stock in trade. Does anyone dispute this?

 

No. It is a petty insult all right.

 

It's neither petty nor an insult. It's an accurate, if colorful, description of BioWare's output in recent years.

The Old Republic is indisputably a World of Warcraft clone, it went free-to-play within eight months (an especially draconian F2P model, I'm told), and is considered a failure. The BioWare doctors quit because they couldn't handle any criticism. Feminist whales such as Jennifer Hepler and Rebecca Harwick are writing literally fanfic-tier romances and dialog, involving characters who can switch their sexual orientation on a dime. The gameplay of recent BioWare games has been linear, shallow, and extremely un-challenging. BioWare games are now as consolized as they come.

Do you dispute any of this, or do you have a quasi-witty stupid remark to make instead?

 

How deep and edgy.

It is petty because Bioware is teh evul cause they copy a game that was liked by millions? Oh let me remember. There are those games called IWDs that are built with the same engine and mechanics as BG series. So that must be wrong, right? Since Bioware who made BGs are not making them!
Why is Feminism bad? Because it is bad?
Consoles are bad? Why?

None of these are explanations. They are just petty accusations. Whether they are correct or not has not been shown anywhere.

 

Shrek, you're a graphics whore who doesn't understand why consoles are bad and can't hold up your end of a debate to save your life. Your best and apparently only technique is to twist other posters' words to suit your agenda and bombard them with questions.

I'll show you something:

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By all means, explain yourself. I'm listening. Unless of course this is yet another situation in which you refuse to explain yourself, in which case I suppose I should prepare for some inane babble followed by you asking me stupid questions.

 

The active quests log is worse than the journal entry.

 

You don't need to explain what is self evident. If we had to do that for every single thing we say we would be spending our entire lives justifying our opinions every inch of the way. That's really not practical now, is it? So yeah, Biowhore games are shit because feminism and wimminz writing homofag fanfiction crap, among many other things. What else do you need to know?

 

You are answering your own question in the same sentence. If its obvious, then it does not need to be explained.

 

Maybe. Maybe not. I would eventually like to get a naive outlook into WHY of it though. But I am terrible with literary theory as of now. Sometime later I guess.

 

In my opinion, if a game has graphics, the quality of art direction is important regardless of the technology used.

However, your stated preference for 3D visuals and opinion that they're "better" is in fact classic graphics whoring, despite your constant insistence that you aren't a graphics whore. You are a graphics whore, Captain Shrek.

 

Wait Blaine...is this .... actual writing from a game?!?