Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity [BETA RELEASED, GO TO THE NEW THREAD]

XCOM just needed a better story, guys.

 

You can have all the reactivity in the world and the best content ever, but it must be presented well.

They are both limiting systems, they are not the same. Unless you are playing Neverwinter Nights.

 

Lord Andre is retarded. News at 11.

 

Matt Barton is an obsidian fanboy, news at twelve.

 

LeStryfe79

So you have a different opinion on a subject that can't be measured objectively. Good for you. And before you call me a troll perhaps you might try to understand what a forum is and is not. e.g. If there were no diverging opinions then there wouldn't actually be a discussion.

Oh yeah...before I forget Now where is Jaesun with that join date ?

Edit: Jaesun please retardo J_C's inflammatory one liner, as it's derailing this thread. This isn't GD, is it ?

 

Alpha Protocol was broken by terrible mechanics.

 

Again, speak for yourself. I'm pretty sure there will be some people bothered about both things, and more.

Just as funny about people bitching about the similarity of PE classes with D&D classes, amirite?

 

The only thing good about Alpha protocol was the amusing characters and decent gunplay. Avoid stealth characters like the plague, and don't pay attention to the awful story.

 

Excellent post!

 

Maybe I had different expectations, but unbalanced mechanics were really not the problem as much the lack of technical polish of controls, stealth, and shooting.

 

That's a very "Lordly" response from "Lord Andre"

 

K, man, Vancian Magic is cooldowns, but the way health and stamina are supposed to work in PE is totally not the same. It's not like they practically serve the same purpose, which is to give health-regen. BUT IT'S NOT CALLED HEALTH!!1

 

I was including those things in mechanics.

 

Their purpose is to have a game where healing spells or potion do not exist as such, as well as to introduce both tactical and strategic choices when it come to life.

 

Yeah you're not gonna have much fun with the combat without a gamepad *cough* ShitBox game. They had to eat somehow though so I'll let them slide with a few broken console titles with a few charming redeems.

 

No they don't serve the same purpose.

Stamina regenerates outside of combat. Health doesn't, and can only be replenished by resting in pre-designated areas.
Losing stamina knocks the character out. Losing health kills the character.
Losing health also inflicts wounds that apply penalties.
You lose both health and stamina at the same time at different rates.

Those facts separate how health and stamina operate functionally. Arguing they're the same is like claiming blunt and slash weapons are the same.

 

If you mean by 90's standards than you may have an argument, otherwise

 

No, instead there will be stamina spells (potions too?). The difference! It's mindblowing!

 

Shit. I've run out of random things to say! @$#@%&$@#!

 

My take on the whole stamina-health issue. I have no problem with the system itself and I am aware that they are tied to diverging mechanics and not just damage soak. But, BUT I have a problem with regeneration. If none of them regenerated then I would list it as incline.

I am also aware that regeneration is meant to counterbalance the "no magic healing" aspect. IMO it balances it so well that it actually makes the game easier than before. At least in the past, healing spells competed for spell slots with buffs and summons and save-or-dies. Regeneration competes with nothing because it's free by default.