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Oh definitely, Witcher 2 had ARPG/Action combat and sucks at it. That's the main reason i couldn't play Witcher 2 more than 3 hours.

 

Yeah, what Infinitron said.

Damn 2012 newfags can't even recognize an ARPG when they see one.

 

It's been an issue forever. Even here on the "RPG Codex" the definition of the genre varies.

 

Arcanum? Planescape? Baldur's Gate? Witcher melee combat just allowed player to combine his attack to powerful combo with additional clicking. You could from what i remember just choose enemy and bash him away with 1 hit's.

 

Require you to time your attacks against enemy movement, faster combat pace that requires fast reflexes for dodging and using potions, useless status effects and potions that force player to use most damaging attacks all the time. No difference between combating different enemies.

Of course there can be games that lose some of these qualifications but still remain as an action rpg but that generally means it's a hybrid games.

 

Then do you categorise Witcher as an ARPG or normal CRPG?

 

Simplicity of action combat does not make it non-action.

You apparently have problems with understanding the concept, so let me phrase it this way:

If an RPG requires constant player input in real time, it is an ARPG.

Simple enough?

Arcanum is a turn-based game.
Baldur's Gate and Torment are RTWP (note the 'WP' part).

 

Action rpg obviously.

 

You can pause, click on enemy and resume to attack in Witcher.

 

I can't believe I fell for such obvious (well, now it's obvious) trolling. I'm not at my best wits today.

Not the best effort, but apparently good enough to fool me.

 

Good point.

 

Hey,i think i deserve at least .

 

You click on enemy and your char starts attacking, and continiues to attack by himself. No more input required, just like in strategy games. In Witcher you click, and you deal one blow. To win a fight you have to click,click,click for every hit. That's action RPG. Sure,you time your clicks, unlike Diablo for excample, but it is still action RPG.

 

It's a general codex consensus that Witcher is an ARPG then? Still i find it funny that even though Witcher combat has more RPG combat options to it, it's ARPG. While Fallout games are technically Diablo clones in combat but isn't considered ARPG because they're TB.

 

Fallout = shalow tactical combat.
Witcher = deep action combat.
Witcher still has the RPG part of ARPG. That doesn't makes it any less actiony

 

Usual codex derailing I tought that I'm in the wrong thread o_O

 

It's just a drop in the 732 pages.

 

Um what
They're both shallow. Pre-buffing with potions and oils doesn't make it deep.

 

In comparison with other action games loke Diablo's combat

 

Your build and equipment matter more in Diablo plus having to figure out how to use the environment to your advantage when facing large groups.

 

Are you talking about D3?

 

Funnily enough, old Wikipedia says Witcher 1 managed 2.1 million sales. It looks like the market for "solid" PC RPGs is fairly predictable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PC_games

 

Witcher 2 sold 1.1 million even though it got better reception from the game jornos so i think bulk of the 2.1 sales is from 3-5 $ deals.

My estimate for this game is between 600k-1,5 million (With steam sales)