Incline Official codex Star Trek Online topic :salute:

you do squat with the stipend, it's just spare change.

 

Considering you barely play, you're not exactly getting a lot of value out of LTS. In fact, at the rate at which the game is circling the drain, even if it doesn't outright fold, you certainly won't be playing that long.

Take a look at it things this way: I used to try to get people I thought might be interested in this kind of thing to play. Nowadays, I tell them, "Well, I'm playing this one thing, but I can't honestly say I want to inflict it on you.". I've gone from recruiting people to telling them to avoid the place.

 

You could always become a filthy traitor and join us in the cozy hell called Neverwinter. Plenty of ways to farm and not having fun, sounds right up your alley!

 

I'd still say if we are to beat No Win just to prove that we can, we first need to have a post detailing the plan of attack so people can read it beforehand as many times as they want/need, and then we need to agree/have Norfleet declare upon a time.

(Also one reason why for example yours truly is more traitorous at the moment is that I've cleared the rep on my non-mule STO alts, while in Neverwinter I still have more than two weeks of work to clear the newest campaign with all my alts)

 

It's worth a shitload of dilithiumz, or save up a few and you can buy an intergalactic furfag ship or somesuch.

Well let's be honest, you don't exactly "play" this game either. In fact, I'm not sure there is a word for what you're doing. Maybe you "suffer" or "endure" the game is the closest. Languish in this game? I've been away for a year or so, and haven't been playing that much since I came back, since the fleet retardation set in. Not that the fleet is retarded, but the introduction of the bases turned this from "vaguely Star Trek-themed MMO without the soul-crushing grindfest of other MMOs", to just "vaguely Star Trek-themed MMO".

Anyways I used to play STO more than anything else, probably more than all other games combined at the time. So yeah, might have been worth it back then. Especially since you got a lifetime sub to CO too then. Not sure if that's still the case, they don't mention it.

 

We actually got rid of the grindfest recently.

 

500 zen per month.
come again?

 

500 x 4 = 2000. That can get you a ship.

Also, 500 > 0.

Even if you grind like a complete aspie, you can still only refine 8k dilithium per day. So just over 50 Zen. Unless you're a super-asspie and get 8000 per day on several characters.

 

Only for the base. The reputation/mark system is still there and still retarded. I know they made it less grindy recently, but the old system of getting gear that's not terrible was much better.

1. Blow up many Borg in STF.
2. Collect rewards
3. Talk to dudes on DS9 and get requisition.
4. Choose the exact beam/cannon you want.
5. Profit!

 

The old system was fucking horrible and it took forever to get gear. The new one is a fuckload better.

 

I wouldn't say doing the catfood mill is particularly "asspie", plus, apparently the DSM-VI has disavowed the existence of such a thing. Current output on main account is 256K/day, which exchanges at present rates to about 1.6K/day. Far more than 50.

 

Yeah, like I said, we are talking normal people here. Maxing out 1 to 2 characters a day is enough for most. Not enough as in enough minerals, enough as in all that we can tolerate. Also there is no DSM VI, only up to 5 so far. But it's all bullshit anyway, our resident medical expert, HHR! told me so.

The old one took about a week to get your ship equipped with decent weapons. Now it takes several weeks to reach the top tier in any reputation, and only then can you actually start buying stuff. Unless you count the random stuffies you get in reward boxes which are 98% useless and the other 2% of the times it doesn't match your current loadout. Plus shooting Borg is easy as shit, getting constantly surprise-exploded by Undine planet killers and having to listen to that DAMN UNSKIPPABLE VIDEO is far worse.

 

The old Borg weapons are piles of shit compared to what you get with rep, and stuff you can buy the equivalent of on the Exchange for pocket money (or by Norfleet standards, a fake dime). The only real loot that still matters from the old system was the non-Borg Set gear, and those are VASTLY easier to get now.

 

I still haven't found anything to match my old Borg phasers, apart from the biomole ones (and even then only when fighting Undine). Still using those bad boys from years ago.

 

That just means you haven't even taken a look around the Fleet store. Advanced Fleet weapons already made the Borg weapons obsolete a long time ago.

 

I have. But you weren't talking about that, you talked about the stuff you get in the rep system. Apples with apples. The rep system replaces the DS9 system. The fleet shop is something totally different. And don't even get me started on how long it takes to get enough FC for something decent there.

 

In case of rep weapons, the Romulan plasma weapons are superior to Borg weapons.

And FC is not hard to get.

The main difference between the old and the new systems is that it could take hundreds of STFs to get the Set gear of your choice before, now it takes a set amount of time and it's easy to get exactly what you want.

 

Romulan Plasma weapons are Plasma, not phasers.

Yes it takes a set amount of time, and then also doing a lot of STF's to get your dil and marks.

It's not hard to get fleet credit, it's just tedious to get enough to actually buy something in the crazy expensive fleet store.

 

And of course, because the old Borg weapons have nothing special to them anymore, you can get equivalent weapons for pocket money on the Exchange. Getting high-end gear is considerably easier now regardless of how one looks at it.

 

So I rolled up a KDF Romulan. Haven't played this in 4 years, but my hilariously optimistic lifetime sub means I have a shitload of jewgeld to play with. And thanks to the advice from this thread I didn't waste my level 40 ship token (SERIOUSLY, THANKS!!) and am now almost 50. Let the grind begin!

Mind inviting me to the Codex Fleet of Unpronouncability? Lana@Vethantis

 

If you're a lifer, you don't need to worry about that, as you are already a Gold member and can thus proceed with impunity. And even if you were out for 4 full years, 500 x 48 is a measly 24K Jewgold...not a lot.

 

They only started giving the 500/month after they went ftp, so more like 16k. Not a lot to a Master of the Mill like your esteemed self, but enough to get a few nice things that I otherwise would not spend realpotato on (hellloooo, scimitar)

 

And if I remember things correctly, with Scimitar you'll want the 3/3 pack due to the console set.

Also, for lower tier ships you'll want to take a look at the one with the damage -> shield heal console and the Nausicaan Destroyer with Plasmonic Leech (don't leave home without Plasmonic Leech).

 

http://community.arcgames.com/en/news/star-trek-online/detail/6001993-crafting-systems-part-2

Some of the new items and shit. The things to actually note is TRB making a comeback and possible 360 degree beams (relevant to DBB FAW cruisers I guess...), but most importantly (at least by what I can tell) these two possible Mods for weapons:

• Beams:
  • [Over] – This mod gives all of its weapons’ attacks a small chance to trigger a free Beam Overload for the next beam weapon that fires.
• Cannons:
  • [Rapid] – This mod gives all of its weapons’ attacks a small chance to trigger a 4 second duration Cannon Rapid Fire buff.

The cannon one seems to be potentially hilariously OP.

 

Nah, the overload one sounds way more OP. Beam Overload At Will.