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Discussion in 'MMO(RP)G / Online Discussion' started by anus_pounder, Oct 28, 2011.

  1. eklektyk Erudite

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    it looks like they really want to "fix" last thing that works ...doffs

    since this aniv evvent shows how retarded their servers are consolidating maps and puting more stress on servers is PrO move .... :sigh:

    they waaaaaay past moronic and monkeys now ... simply put even broken and nonfunctioning clock shows right time once a day ....

    they really need to work hard to fuck shit up on every try ... whatevher they do its a disaster of bugs and shitflow but BESTAH EXP EVAH AND PLAYERS LOVE IT! now with sector consolidation more brokednes and even MOAR LAGGGS !!! get it while its hot ....:puke:
     
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  2. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    I am sorry for the server crash yesterday, it was my fault.
    Using my mad mouse skillzzzz and opening a family pack of luck I finally managed to get my minigame score to over 9000 2000. Instead of just giving me a coloured trace, the game saw no other option to deny me that triumph than to commit sodoku before I could cash in my reward.

    I am terriburu sorry for that inconvenience.

    Come to think of it: just as D'Angelo has become head of the hamster department, the server crashed. That bodes well for the future.
     
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  3. eklektyk Erudite

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    muahahahahahahahahahahahaha


    Dilithium rewards from completing Event Reputation Projects no longer receive a bonus.
    • This also includes the large reward of 50,000 Dilithium a player earns when completing a reputation.
     
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  4. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    I imagine that has always been a thorn in their side. With the minimal effort needed to complete reputations now, a casual player could level a few alts during bonus xp and maximize the reps thanks to sponsorship in.. 20 days? During bonus dil you would cash those in AND all the iso injections/voth implants you collected along the way.
    I know I did and never had to buy Cybershekelz thanks to that. Catfood farming gives scraps compared to that if you only trade it in once a day.

    To be fair it was only a matter of time. Being a freeloader for years and still being able to get all the shiny toys certainly wasn't what they had in mind.
    Maybe it's a sign that the whales who have financed us have cut back spending?

    Ah well, it's not the end of the world. Unless the change to the sector map comes with a big timer for marauding, catfood is still enough for casual farmers like me.
    Considering that pure fedlings have to live off the daily popquiz, satelite patrol, mining and what little dil doffing gives, we are still good.

    It's similar to Neverwinter: your main source of potatos was always supposed to be daily dungeons/skirmishes/whatever, not an army of potatofarmers.

    Edit: apparently the rep projects were already permanenty excluded last time, this time they only added events (like the Brobisek Adventures) to the list. Meh, already claimed my shotguns anyway.
     
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  5. Davidshky Scholar

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    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=22125201&postcount=12

     
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  6. Drakron Arcane

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    Not exactly.
    Its a sign of stupidity.

    When they started to put Lock Box ships anyone with a brain would realize at one they would run out of them, so at start it was very easy to sell players those ships because they were few and many were ships from the show but at one point the market became saturated, few people would buy every ship so this was a dead end eventually.

    Their response was making then more powerful to the point they even exhausted possible layouts so they decided that they would simply one up and create a new tier so they could do it again ... and this make people very weary of buying new ships, sure we have Vaarna as a example but then there is me, I have ships for all characters I have and I feel that I was ripped off.

    Then come the other problem, queues ... they being stupid decided to add 2 more gear tiers and force everyone into spending millions of EC and hundreds of thousands of Dil to upgrade thats simply unsustainable and decided the best way for then to deliver content is making XP gaps from 50 to 60 so wide people cannot really hit 60 until months after in a casual play so they dont have to create content that survives the 3-4 month cycle.

    People ditched alts because the XP curve, they only upgrade their "main" gear due to cost and that follows to Lock Box ships and C-Store ships, due to changes to difficulty people simply stopped PUG and this leads to dead queues ... hard to show your new shinny when the queue never pops and its not even something that is assured to carry the group and thats space, ground is far worst.

    The system is anti-casual now, its also becoming more and more departed from Star Trek in aesthetics ... so the Trek fans that wanted to fly their favorite ship cannot do it with efficiency, the system is not designed to take shortcut but instead build as a deck card game like MtG were the underlinings of the system require existing knowledge of the system and a system were tooltips either are wrong or downright lie to you.

    By pushing away the casuals they cut growth, eventually all that will be left are farmers because the ones that can beat their dungeons no longer require gear upgrade and thus dont need their services. the whales simply became tourists and leave without spending the money that Cryptic intends to take off their wallets because there is nothing for them to do.

    The biggest sign is this ... Cryptic wants for players to buy Dil with Zen ... but Cryptic says they dont put Dilithium on the exchange so how is Dilithium going to end up there? They are so obvious stupid to basic supply-demand chain that honestly I am only surprised someone at PW didnt had enough of their antics and cleaned house.
     
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  7. Norfleet Moderator

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    Ahoy thar, Drakron. What Drakronity be you up to?
    Fuck no, this is awesome. I have 100M to unload still. Has the market gotten better there? It's going to get there because I'll put it there, obviously.
     
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  8. Drakron Arcane

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    Well Dil gone up a bit but still around 160's.

    Until a new holding shows up its not going to improve, plus with a new CE going to show up in a month ... Cryptic might want but they arently really doing it because of the 1 step forward, 2 steps back ... as much they want to do that the events for their metrics are becoming more common and even with this Dil event nerf I could still pay for a whole set by maxing 3 Reps.

    I just wish they made up their mind instead of being tsundare about P2W, the fact its hidden under layers of mechanics doesnt change it and too confusing to poor dumb whales (like me) means we found out our supposed P2W isnt because we doing it wrong and nothing in the game really says how to do it right.

    Its too much MAGIC! THE GATHERING with random crap in the mix.

    Until things became less dumb I am just taking it easier ... no rush to get anywhere since its going to be nerfed after I get there.

    Edit:

    I forgot to mention this, Omega Upgrade kits are account on pick up meaning they arent going to show in the exchange, if Vaarna wants to get on board I would suggest buying Omega Fragments and run the project as fast he can because it seems the Omega Project isnt going to leave, just the particles meaning mad dash to the exchange the moment that a) This is announced and their feeble minds realize what it means and b) event is nearly over and everyone goes nuts because supply is going away.

    Also note the project for the kit is 20 hours.
     
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  9. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    Oh it's even better now:

    On the one hand rewards for the omega minigame have been improved, after 2000 points you get a sliver and up to 3 colored particles.

    But!

    The amount of particles you can convert in a R&D task at once has been reduced from 5 to 1.
    That means a single daily omega quest will reward you with 3x3 color particles and 3 slivers. But it takes 4 toons to process those to the next tier. Sure, the lower tasks take only 20-60 minutes or so, but slotting 5-packs over night is out now. Farming for only one hour will already create a huge backlog. I guess Craptic underestimated the amount of kits people can farm per day. :lol:

    If they plan on removing the R&D task at the end of the event, the board will burn with rage from all those amassed particles. #BURN WITH ME! #drakron2014

    Though I think they will leave them in since you cannot get fresh particles, not even Craptic would be so stupid... or are they?
    But yeah, it is probably a smart move not to turn the fragments into kits for now if you want to monetize them, since the fragments are not bound. Yet.

    Btw: did finishing the omega rep always pay 10 BNP? I was actually surprised by that, since 10 is all you need after all. Of course Delta pays no APC. Figures.

    Edit: Not being able to convert more than one particle turns out to be a bug. Dodged a bullet there.
     
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  10. Davidshky Scholar

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    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=22140231#post22140231

    Wouldn't surprise me if the omega minigame will make its return in the form of weekend events later on.
     
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  11. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    Since nobody has posted it here yet, I'd like to link to a leak page, (maybe) showing the upcoming command cruisers:

    http://imgur.com/a/4pvTo

    No Derpidex. No Cybershekelz from me! :obviously:
     
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  12. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    The Romulan warbird does look p. badass. One of the Fed ones is also kind of nice (the slim, long one). Also, hangar bays galore.
     
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  13. Subject37 Educated

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    The KDF ships, on the other hand.... Jesus.
     
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  14. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    Yeah the KDF ships are... not great. The FEDs show the team's undying devotion towards the Exelsior class, maybe the mission pod on top is even optional like on the old sciboats.

    For the ROMs... I am obviously a fanboi of the old designs, but a silent part of me approves. Sadly the sciboat is the bestlooking one, the tacboat being the tirangle. Seems the sciboats got the best looks all around this time.

    Oh, forgot to post the leak link, showing which boat is what: http://iqfleet.org/private/leaks

    Edit: the rom cruiser will probably look funny, considering it has the wings extremly swept towards the front, and with it's low turnrate shooting it's torpedos from the nose may end up with them clipping through the wings. Also broadsiding. The space winnebago already looked ridiculous, now there will be a new contestant! :hahano:
     
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  15. Subject37 Educated

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    They're extremely half-ass. Put a Bortasqu' in a blender with a Negh'var, add a touch of Vo'quv and VOILA, new ships! I really hope those aren't the finalized designs but my experience with Cryptic's previous Klingon-related efforts tells me they probably are. I kind of like the Fed designs, as I'm a big Excelsior fan myself and these ships are much closer to "traditional" Starfleet in comparison to the Scryer or Eclipse. The Space Elves win the style award just like they always do.
     
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  16. Davidshky Scholar

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    I think the KDF ship can look decent if we can mix the different parts which I kinda get the feeling we'll be able to.
     
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  17. Subject37 Educated

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    You'll be able to, but only if you happen to own whichever variant you want the parts from. So you'd have to buy the inevitable 3-pack to unlock all the ship costume pieces.

    But yes you're right. It looks like you'd be able to make a passable Bortasqu' by mixing together some pieces from the 3 KDF command ships. 6000 zen for the T6 Bortasqu' I've been hoping to see. Yay.
     
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  18. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    Just to point out, don't say "sciboat" or "tacboat." They're all battlecruisers bro, like a pack of Avengers (in terms of auras at least, I'm guessing no 5-3 slots).
     
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  19. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    So you think we are looking at 3 "agile" cruisers with different 4-4-3 setups? Interesting. But I think when given the choice, people will still go for the one with the most tac consoles. Another 32% dakka (plus crit chance if you are space rich) is hard to pass on. I know I feel 3 tac consoles are a little... lacking on my Guardian.
    Considering what we have seen about the command spec however, I don't consider them a "must have" though, especially if you already bought the intel ships.

    Eventually they will come with some op mastery trait/console set, so people will buy them.

    If I weren't married to the Derpidex, I would feel tempted to buy a romboat, since the fartbird turned out to be a little disappoiinting. How often do you guys use the intel probe anyway?
     
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  20. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    I try to use it every time I encounter a stronger enemy, since there's no point in using it on mooks due to mooks being made of explodium. The damage amplifying expose (reduces enemy DR and Shields take more damage) is actually really really damn good.

    Anyway, I'd guess the Tac variant will have 4 tac consoles. The real kicker is going to be the console sets and traits (and for vain people, the parts). But yea, IF I were to get one, I'd probably use a normal spec rather than Command.
     
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  21. Davidshky Scholar

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    Who knows, maybe the sci versions have sensor analysis like the sci oddy and sci bortas. SA >>> 1 extra tac console.
     
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  22. Drakron Arcane

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    Not interested, I am not Vaarna to drop 120$ on ships I have no intention to use.
     
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  23. Subject37 Educated

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    Blog post about the new command ships -

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9066073-tier-6-command-ships

    One thing that popped out at me is that the Fed and KDF command ships do NOT come with the weapon systems efficiency or strategic manuvering cruiser commands. Only attract fire and shield frequency modulation. These things are going to be all about team buffing and support. I'm not sure why any player that focuses mostly on solo PVE (like me) would have much interest.
     
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  24. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    Shield aura isn't bad in itself, and if you use a Wide Angle torp you will still have plenty of overflow power without weapons efficiency (not to mention auras don't stack so in that way it's got something; besides IMO Shield aura is easily second-best). But you're right, that's a completely new aura layout, certainly not that of the Battlecruiser. Maybe we can call these Battlecarriers?

    The consoles sound p. gay tho.

    Now, Inspiration. THAT sounds like it might be bamf, it might be a betterfasterstronger Attack Pattern Alpha.

    But the real clincher is yet hidden: Is that a bass mouth they're hiding down there? (No way am I getting this for non-Feds unless the Rom ships are really really fucking awesome, which is a tough thing; bass mouth is instant no-sale tho)
     
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  25. Stereotypical Villain Arcane

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    Meh... seems like a better idea to wait for the fleet intel ships, but that's just my crazy opinion.

    PS. I've extracted as many fleet shekels as I need from that random fleet and I am now ready to come back... perhaps then Blib will stop calling me a traitor. D:
     
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