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Game News Paradox announce Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 with Brian Mitsoda onboard as narrative lead

Discussion in 'RPG News & Content' started by Infinitron, Mar 22, 2019.

  1. Outlander Custom Tags Are For Fags. Patron

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    Aren't vampires basically about rape and AIDs and shit? I don't think you can make them unpolitical.
    But if they fail to make a core theme violent sexual desire, then it will suck.
     
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    Looking forward to this, I love a good dumpster fire.
     
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    Dumpster fire? Here you are.
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    Just needs Brian Mitsoda's face shopped on the homeless guy and a copy of Bloodlines 2 in the dumpster and it'd be perfect.
     
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    Why must everything go to shit so fast
     
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    Oh man, if that's your comment, then pearls before swine it seems.

    The core problem you dolt, it's not if the game will feature transgender vampires (or whatever you fancy), the problem is how believable and how well written one would be by a social justice warrior more concerned to push his agenda than the art form, ignoring the fact that a SJW is incompetent and unable to write one.


    PS: The only appendage you're allowed to hold is my cock while you're thoroughly deepthroating it with diligence.
     
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  9. theLorry Literate

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    Releasing a game in this way is fucking cancer. If I wanted to learn how to read charts, I would have gone to school!

    Moreover, I like how they are sucking up to the the games journalists with their talk about 'oh how tactfully, tastefully, well-researched' they will approach the subjects of mental illness and sexual stereotypes, yet at the same time they pander to the fans of the old game with the very symbols of what they claim to disapprove of (STOP sign, Voerman Portrait, Jeanette's outfit).

    Thinking about it, maybe that's a good sign? I mean Paradox really likes money, so maybe they understand that going full retard with the 'progressive' deep-throating isn't good for the bottom line. After all, it's not the journos and degenerates that keep buying Carolingian Unit packs for CK2 8 years after the game's release.
     
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    If you think Paradox are secretly based, you're in for a hell of a disappointment. To give just one example, they recently banned ancient internet jokes on their subreddit.

    My interpretation of their actions and the way they are trending is that they know they have a significant part of their customer base that is problematic. They're happy to take the money of these people, but they prefer to keep them in the shadows, and marginalize them. If I had to make a blind prediction for Bloodlines 2, I'd guess it will be pretty woke, and these throw-away pre-order bonuses are just there to bait the old fans into believing this game is for them.

    It's like when Blizzard said lots of things to reassure hardcore Diablo 2 fans that the game (Diablo 3) would be for them, while making a game that was sure to disappoint them in every way. This is just marketing.

    Of course until the game actually comes out the "You're exaggerating, you can't possibly know, give them the benefit of the doubt" crowd will have their way. Until we have the pudding we can't taste it, but in terms of betting odds, I wouldn't want to put money on the game turning out anything like Bloodlines 1.
     
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    They are making the game for her.

     
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    Itt, the new Nines Rodrigues is a gay muslim activist.

    You can't make this shit up.
     
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    You are deluding yourself if you think that “a significant part of their customer base” cares about real world events, culture wars and activism. I remember trying to convince a casual cousin of mine how disgusting ME:A was, to no avail. 90% of gamers, and this includes the ones who played VtM:B, are retarded and apolitical. If this game end up with clans, disciplines, half-decent graphics and is relatively free of bugs, they will eat it up. They don’t give a fuck about the hamfisted agenda on the story or the dialogues, because they are borderline illiterates.
     
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  15. Gruncheon Educated

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    But that's exactly my point. I don't think Mitsoda et al. have the writing chops to give life to a traditionalist Prince that isn't anything other than an evil bungler. Where the writers have an explicit agenda to advance progressivism, you're never going to get a traditionalist character that might actually be correct because all conservatism is evil and of course it's evil and we all agree it's evil why are we even having this conversation in current year?

    I don't care if there are transgender characters in the game. I think it's good to broaden the range of human experience that's depicted in RPGs. I've got nothing against an interesting queer character; Arcade Gannon was one of the best companions in NV. I just want the dilemmas to actually spark some kind of interesting reflection in my mind and not have to sit through a million different variations of "white man bad fuck Drumpf" in every conversation.
     
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  16. Zeriel Arcane

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    Paradox is not an AAA developer. I'm specifically talking about their strategy games. CK2 is by far their biggest in terms of the awareness there is of its existence and its subreddit is basically nothing but jokes and memes about this kind of shit. When I say "significant" I don't mean half, more like 5-10%, but it's the 5-10% who talk a lot about their games and are "core gamers" so to speak, the people who drive communities. I'd be honestly shocked if they weren't aware of this, and we've had multiple blow-ups where they sideways acknowledged it.

    None of this will really play into Bloodlines 2, but that wasn't what I was talking about, I was talking about how they view a certain portion of their customer base in reply to someone else.
     
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    Even taking into account that, they'll be shit scared of headlines like "VB:2, the game that makes fun of mental disease" or the like. Remember all the crazy racism acccusations against Kingdom Come Deliverance? The dev was a truly independent indie so he could still ignore it all because he was in total control of the project, but any studio that is forced to listen to investors may not enjoy such freedom. Also, a game taking place in a contemporary setting is far more delicate and prone to cause alarm in mainstream media, and unlike GTA I doubt they can actually profit from the bad reputation.

    The game will try very hard not to offend anyone, I suspect. I hope I am wrong, but despite my initial optimism the preorder thing makes me suspicious, and the "this is 2019, not 2004" statements don't make it look any better.
     
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    That's exactly what I meant, though. A lot of companies are in the SJW bubble, and they know journalists are also in that bubble, so everything is telling them to pander in that direction. They'll take the money of people they think are wrong and evil (i.e, politically incorrect), but they aren't going to say anything nice to them or let them be too public.
     
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  19. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    The most likely outcome re: SJW in Bloodline 2.

    1) The game will contain somewhat more "woke" content than, let's say, The Outer Worlds.

    2) It still won't have enough of it to come across as an "SJW game". Few big budget productions are dumb enough to actually go all the way.

    3) The people who obsess about such things will fixate on some particular example for a while, then move on.

    4) At the end of the day, when people look back at the game and talk about its flaws, the SJW stuff won't be high up on their list of complaints. (See also: BattleTech)

    I suppose there is a chance that this game could go full Sweden ala Wolfenstein: The New Colossus, but I don't think that's Paradox's style. They didn't get where they are today by being reckless.
     
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    Paradox are publishers, not developers, here. I don't know much about Hardsuit Labs.
     
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    It’s set in Seattle? It’s a shithole. This is some pretty peak clownworld we currently live in. Wouldn’t the “current year, 2019” degeneracy be more of a setting feature with the vampire world than an SJW detracting of the source material? In other words, wouldn’t the degeneracy be adding more than taking away?
     
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    The funny thing is I'm pretty sure the way they portray Seattle in the game will be less awful than how it is in the real world.
     
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    ...for example, kill the homeless in a location and later when you return the area will have improved and there will be a tree

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