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The most likely outcome re: SJW in Bloodline 2.
1) The game will contain somewhat more "woke" content than, let's say, The Outer Worlds.
2) It still won't have enough of it to come across as an "SJW game". Few big budget productions are dumb enough to actually go all the way.
3) The people who obsess about such things will fixate on some particular example for a while, then move on.
4) At the end of the day, when people look back at the game and talk about its flaws, the SJW stuff won't be high up on their list of complaints. (See also: BattleTech)
I suppose there is a chance that this game could go full Sweden ala Wolfenstein: The New Colossus, but I don't think that's Paradox's style. They didn't get where they are today by being reckless.
Apples and oranges. There is regular evil and then there is unidimensional faggotry propaganda. The last is also evil, but it is insufferable. You also need to consider how much freedom they will take away from the player due to a political correct mindset.It’s set in Seattle? It’s a shithole. This is some pretty peak clownworld we currently live in. Wouldn’t the “current year, 2019” degeneracy be more of a setting feature with the vampire world than an SJW detracting of the source material? In other words, wouldn’t the degeneracy be adding more than taking away?
What worries me is not 1) from your list or the projected consequences you list in 2) 3) and 4), to me it's not a matter of what they add to pander certain people, it's about the interesting and fun ideas that will be filtered out to avoid offending anyone.
You should also be worried about the presence of bad ideas due to political inclinations. The presence of trannies, lesbians or related “progressive” themes is a problem because they are usually presented in such an unimaginative and predictable way that they sound derivative, while also breaking the player’s immersion in the process. How can I believe in a game world when I know for a fact that I am just reading some author’s political statement that I already read countless times in the internet? Anyone with half a brain will feel that he and the game are being used to advance some political statement. It is unnerving and underwhelming.I'd be more worried about a lack of good ideas than said good ideas being filtered out. True regardless of politics!
You should also be worried about the presence of bad ideas due to political inclinations. The presence of trannies, lesbians or related “progressive” themes is a problem because they are usually presented in such an unimaginative and predictable way that they sound derivative, while also breaking the player’s immersion in the process. How can I believe in a game world when I know for a fact that I am just reading some author’s political statement that I already read countless times in the internet? Anyone with half a brain will feel that he and the game are being used to advance some political statement. It is unnerving and underwhelming.I'd be more worried about a lack of good ideas than said good ideas being filtered out. True regardless of politics!
You are talking in abstract. Writers don’t work in a vacuum and the temptation of activism leads to bad writing. When we complain about progressive politics we are talking about the pamphleteering way the political subject is handled. In 9 out of 10 cases, these subjects are used to parrot some message. This includes not only the writing, but the world, the art, etc. Considering that VtM:B2 will feature talking heads, voice over and other fancy stuff, you can bet that they are going to use the game as mouthpiece about politics.I think the problem is with poor writers, and not the progressive politics. For instance, I think the movie Dallas Buyers Club is a decent written movie with great characters. The characters are trans or have AIDS, and they are believable people with their own problems. It is just that some people in games are not that amazing at writing in some instances. Also, Dallas Buyers Club is not SJW at all in my opinion. It is a problem of writing not with the subject at hand.
Actually, he's talking specifics by referencing a particular movie. You, however, are generalising.You are talking in abstract.
Actually, he's talking specifics by referencing a particular movie. You, however, are generalising.You are talking in abstract.
If you think you can provide evidence of movies that would've been well written had they not included progressive politics, I'd love to hear it. Unfortunately, that is all but impossible.Actually, he's talking specifics by referencing a particular movie. You, however, are generalising.You are talking in abstract.
That’s the exception that proves the rule. How many movies have being ruined by progressive politics? Do I even need to make a case for this?
Ocelot570: Progressive politics can be tasteful.If you think you can provide evidence of movies that would've been well written had they not included progressive politics, I'd love to hear it. Unfortunately, that is all but impossible.
It is a cause because there is a significant correlation between progressive politics and the pamphleteering approach. That is not my hypothesis. That is a fact. The rotten hand of progressive activism is all too common in the media, universities and gaming. You need to live in a cave to think otherwise.We both agree that the "pamphleteering approach" results from bad writers tackling political issues, which means that it's a symptom, not the cause, and doesn't ruin anything worth saving. If the bad writers didn't write SJW-tinted drivel, they would write some other kind of drivel, but drivel nonetheless. Sucks to be you if you find leftie progressivism particularly offensive, but them's the breaks.
Sjw infested or not ( most likely ) its quite amazing we are actually seeing a sequel.
Sometimes I think he doesn't read what he writing, in some cases his post looks like written by lunatic contrarian. He apparently mentally ill or just troll anyone who engaged in discussion aside sides and fractions.Ok so you're just doing your usual railing against society as a whole. Got it.