Paranoia: Happiness is Mandatory - isometric RPG based on the tabletop game

[Nutria]

I thought this was a terrible idea at first, but the more I hear it sounds like they actually know what they're doing.

 

[Belegarsson]

https://invisioncommunity.co.uk/wrc...ir-debut-exclusively-on-the-epic-games-store/

Bigben has announced three of its year-end games will be making their launch debut exclusively on the Epic Games store: WRC 8 scheduled for release on September 5th, Paranoia: Happiness is Mandatory which will be released on October 3rd, and Bee Simulator, which will be available from November 14th, 2019. The announcement is part of an exclusive one-year-deal.

 

[Infinitron]

Son of a bitch. It doesn't even have an Epic Games Store page yet. Did they decide this five minutes ago?

 

[Dodo1610]

Well, I am sure there are millions of 13-year old kids who can't wait to play with one of the worlds most obscure RPG systems.

 

[Ranarama]

By the time its out on steam, it'll be 50% off or something.

 

[V_K]

To be fair, this move seems very true to the setting.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

Get it from Codex store on release if you are unhappy with the Epic shitstore move:
Paranoia.Happiness.Is.Mandatory-CODEX

 

[Roguey]

Puzzled by why EGS would even want possible-Eurotrash only on their store.

Guess Bigben doesn't have much faith in it making money on its own then. Oh well, hopefully Stygian will win.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Doesn't even look good, bigben made a good decision.

 

[undecaf]

Epic trying to bulldoze itself to the market is getting boring.

I tried to think of something witty to say, but I got nothing.

Anymore.

 

[Saduj]

Steam page is still up. People only got around to lighting up the Discussion page about an hour ago but I like where it is heading...

 

[Carls Barkley]

Guess Bigben doesn't have much faith in it making money on its own then. Oh well, hopefully Stygian will win.

Every indie developer should take Epic's money. It's the only guarantee of success in a volatile industry.

Cultic Games should be begging for a deal as well, because I have a feeling Stygian will bomb.

 

[Belegarsson]

Every indie developer should take Epic's money. It's the only guarantee of success in a volatile industry.

Cultic Games should be begging for a deal as well, because I have a feeling Stygian will bomb.

Joined: Wednesday

 

[Carls Barkley]

Spend 5 years creating a game while living off potato scraps, and you would also welcome an exclusivity deal.

Anyone that denies this is a virtue signalling liar.

 

[Maxwell's Demon]

There's no such thing as guaranteed success. Epic store exclusivity is sacrificing one's potential for exponential growth for the sake of a single payout. It's dumb unless the executives are planning to pocket the money and jump ship in the near future.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Spend 5 years creating a game while living off potato scraps, and you would also welcome an exclusivity deal.

Anyone that denies this is a virtue signalling liar.

Taking Epic's deal is accepting that you made a shit product you know won't sell well and just wasted 5 years of your life that you will never get back.

Spoiler

 

[Carls Barkley]

Guaranteed money is a guaranteed budget for developing the next game.

If you think Paranoia or Stygian will reach DOS:2 levels of success, you are being foolish. They would be very lucky to sell more than 50,000 copies.

Taking Epic's deal is accepting that you made a shit product

Quality does not guarantee success. Legend of Grimrock 2 improved on the original in every way, yet still bombed.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Guaranteed money is a guaranteed budget for developing the next game.

If you think Paranoia or Stygian will reach DOS:2 levels of success, you are being foolish. They would be very lucky to sell more than 50,000 copies.

So they can develop another game that will end up selling poorly and because Epic won't be there to subsidize them and support their abortion of a product they'll go bankrupt, this time wasting 10 years of their life.
Genius, you should become a politician.

 

[Maxwell's Demon]

Taking Epic's deal is accepting that you made a shit product you know won't sell well and just wasted 5 years of your life that you will never get back.

Either the executives have no balls or are completely brazen psychopaths. Since this is the gaming industry, it's probably the former.

 

[Carls Barkley]

So they can develop another game that will end up selling poorly

There's no way for indie developers to gauge how successful their game will be until it's on the market.

Maybe their game wont sell poorly, but Epic is the only guarantee it will be successful.

nd because Epic won't be there to subsidize them and support their abortion of a product they'll go bankrupt, this time wasting 10 years of their life.

No one becomes an indie developer to get rich. For most of us its about passion, but passion costs money. If Epic is guaranteeing money upfront, you would be dumb not to take it.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

So they can develop another game that will end up selling poorly

There's no way for indie developers to gauge how successful their game will be until it's on the market.

Maybe their game wont sell poorly, but Epic is the only guarantee it will be successful.

nd because Epic won't be there to subsidize them and support their abortion of a product they'll go bankrupt, this time wasting 10 years of their life.

No one becomes an indie developer to get rich. For most of us its about passion, but passion costs money. If Epic is guaranteeing money upfront, you would be dumb not to take it.

If you're unwilling to subsist entirely on ginger and tumeric roots then everything you produce will be subpar.

 

[Maxwell's Demon]

That's not how business works. There are no guarantees in business, there are only varying levels of risk. When you have a tiny business, it's much better to experiment with high-risk/high-reward schemes than it is to be conservative, because you have nothing to lose and everything to gain. The only time a contract like Epic Store exclusivity would be advisable is when you're working for a big corporation and want to shut out competitors.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

When you have a tiny business, it's much better to experiment with high-risk/high-reward schemes than it is to be conservative, because you have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

That depends heavily on local bankruptcy laws.
There are places where debts follow people for generations.

 

[Carls Barkley]

I talked to one developer that signed an exclusivity deal, and he said with the money Epic gave them they could increase the budget and scope for their next project, while also not having to crunch right away.

What Epic offers developers is the elimination of risk, in an extremely risky industry. That sounds like a good deal to me.

 

[Maxwell's Demon]

That depends heavily on local bankruptcy laws.
There are places where debts follow people for generations.

I'm of course assuming that you live in a civilized nation. You can't do business with barbarism everywhere around you.

I talked to one developer that signed an exclusivity deal, and he said with the money Epic gave them they could increase the budget and scope for their next project, while also not having to crunch right away.

What Epic offers developers is the elimination of risk, in an extremely risky industry. That sounds like a good deal to me.

That's just self-delusion. There's no such thing as a sure-bet, and there's no such thing as a free lunch. If all you do is avoid risk, you will never make any money. It's only sensible to try to avoid unnecessary risks. Most of the risks that people take are unnecessary ones, but some risk is always necessary in order to make gains. That's how all investments work, you risk a loss on your investment in the hopes of making some money.