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KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Edition - now with Beneath the Stolen Lands DLC

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Elex, Nov 20, 2018.

  1. Fluent Arcane Possibly Retarded The Real Fanboy

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    I mean the video game adaptation ooff it being core rules, i.e. enemies do 100% damage, full crits and so on. This has nothing to do with the pen-and-paper version.
     
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  2. Yosharian Cipher

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    No it's not, Challenging makes several adaptations to monster stats and so on.
     
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  3. Funposter Scholar

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    I'm pretty sure Core Rules is covered by turning it onto Challenging and then changing the option which inflates monster stats to Normal, or some such.
     
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  4. Jarpie Arcane Patron

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    So I completed the game, took 141 hours and 40 minutes, fucking great game, one of the best crpgs I've played, with the exception of HATEOT, will probably start another playthrough down the line. Pitax stuff was already a bit weaker than the earlier parts of the game, but I still liked it quite a lot.

    Lantern King's voice actor sounded like James Spader, who would fit that kind of "trickster god" almost perfectly, I wonder if they consciously chose to cast someone with that kind of voice.
     
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  5. pomenitul Learned

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    I wasn't implying that the game rules them out altogether, I just find it odd that Owlcat push their own 'balance patch' instead.
     
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  6. Cael Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    Whenever someone starts talking about "balance", it is fairly easy to see where they lie in the whole powergame-dramafag spectrum. In Owlcat's case, it leans towards "munchkin".
     
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  7. Gaius maximus Arbiter

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    i laugh out loud every time i see how small they made the harder difficulties in the options,probably it worked since games score stabilised on 70.
     
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  8. Thonius Liturgist

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    Also steam changed reviews a bit.
     
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  9. Jarpie Arcane Patron

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    Like I said before in this thread, I kinda missed the side quests and other stuff to do between chapters, but even in the form game is now, it's fucking long, and I'm surprised they managed to keep it from collapsing, and they managed to keep the main baddies relevant to the story and present in the game even if you didn't see them. The execution difference between this and Pillars of Eternity is huge, in PoE Thaos appears couple of times in the game, and you basically can forget him beside those instances.

    I think this is due the structure of the game, you get a game which is very much tied together, but the drawback is that it doesn't lend itself that well for the side content, unless you do it at the expense of the main storyline, or make the game even longer, and as for traditional crpgs like Kingmaker is, rather unique in this regard. Sure there was some side content, but most of it was tied to the either kingdom stuff or the main storyline, at least we weren't put to usually games falls apart about half way through, but Kingmaker IMO didn't suffer from this till the last stretch, but that was due the encounter "design" in HATEOT and the first world after that, rather than the story itself, maybe it was a bit rushed, and the very ending was a bit abrupt that after the fight you get the ending slides, instead of returning to the kingdom yourself with all the allies, would've been nice to see celebrations in the game itself.
     
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  10. Gaius maximus Arbiter

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  11. Jarpie Arcane Patron

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    That should be in the advertisement.
     
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  12. Gaius maximus Arbiter

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    marketing the game to the casuals was a mistake.
     
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  13. Yosharian Cipher

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    My Kingdom is in the 'Worried' state, finished the Bloom thing, currently waiting for the next Big Thing. Any idea what I gotta do to fix this? It's not a bug, is it?
     
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  14. Gaius maximus Arbiter

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    not a bug,you either hold a feast for 1000bp or wait for new events and by succesfully resolving them your rate will go up.
     
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  15. Yosharian Cipher

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    I never got an option for a feast though? Not like I have 1k BP lying around, admittedly
     
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  16. Yosharian Cipher

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    This is what concerns me:

    [​IMG]

    <null> ?

    A year has passed since that time and I've completed many events.
     
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  17. Gaius maximus Arbiter

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    well im at serene,i finished the main quests as soon as possible,went to bald hill when baddies erupted and had solved most of the events with triumph or sucess.use a save game from when you were stable.
     
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  18. Yosharian Cipher

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    What, from ~10 hours ago? I think not

    Current save: 2 days 8 hrs
    Save right after that event happened: 1 day 9 hrs

    Yeah, I'm not reloading... too bad I didn't save right before it happened, so I could figure out what caused it.
     
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  19. Gaius maximus Arbiter

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    wtf,i make hard saves every 5 mins you should too.
     
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  20. Yosharian Cipher

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    I do but I don't keep them all
     
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  21. Fedora Master Cipher

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    Considering the game has Steam integration it sure would be great if we also got the workshop. Using that Unity Mod Manager thing is a bit annoying.
     
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  22. Kaivokz Savant

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    Ekun pretty strong... Okbo gets up to 41AC/150HP, trips things + hits really hard himself, too. Just bought 30 dinosaur bones for my sorcerer, should last the rest of the game.
     
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  23. Thonius Liturgist

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    Finished game with worried status. No biggie.
     
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  24. ArchAngel Arcane

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    Let me guess, your treasurer asked you to decide on taxes and you choose to increase them? :D

    You can fix this by leveling your Treasurer a few more levels and when he asks about Import Taxes say No taxes.
     
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  25. Jarpie Arcane Patron

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    Probably the best treasurer is Kanerah, has high int and she had some special options for the events, so I'd recommend to use her. It's a good idea to save when you get the card that the advisor wants to talk, and then switch them around to see if they have special options.
     
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