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KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Edition - now with Beneath the Stolen Lands DLC

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Elex, Nov 20, 2018.

  1. *-*/\--/\~ Savant

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    Then remove the "Prestige" shit. It's only purpose is to pump egos anyway. :D
     
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  2. ArchAngel Arcane

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    Nope, it allows combinations that base classes don't have. 3e multiclass made things like Fighter/Wizard or Wizard/Cleric not usable like in 2e so they needed to add Prestige Classes to satisfy those groups of players.
     
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  3. Cael Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    No. It's purpose is to allow people to create a character that they want and yet be viable in a game. None of that 10/10 Cleric/Wizard shit that 3.0 forced people to do.

    How the fuck do you make Thor, for example, without Bloodstorm Blade? Or Wolverine without Tiger Claw Master?
     
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  4. Tacgnol Shitlord Patron

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    Paizo's PRCs in the tabletop tend to be very specialised. They are quite rarely used in practice, but they can make some strong characters if used correctly.

    Owlcat didn't adapt some of the more interesting ones unfortunately.
     
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  5. Xeon Liturgist

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    Do stores reset or is there a way to reset them? I am selling all my crap to the one selling BP in the capital, he is now has so much stuff, wondering if there will be problems if I keep filling him with stuff instead of spreading it around.

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    Also is there good exp grinding methods or locations? or is quest exp is the best way to level.
     
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  6. Daidre Educated

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    1) Shops never reset. Some consumables like rations are replenished but they keep trash you sold them until the end.
    2) You can't grind exp in P:K, there is no respawn on locations and amount of exp on random encounters while traveling is close to neglectable on high levels. Also it takes time and time is extremely limited resource in Kingmaker.

    Only way to get ahead of curve is to run small parties, switch off skill exp sharing to hoard it on chosen characters (I do it when my main is wiz/sorc for Persuasion + Trickery) or clean higher level locations that is available in second chapter. Kamelands or Dire Narlmarches regions has higher level content and you can get get extra couple of levels there starting from level 6-7+ but to do so some quality cheese required.
    Kamelands are lot easier though.
     
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  7. Chippy Learned

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    There's a modder on the nexus named Quality of Life that has included crafting feats and a number of other great mods. Just loaded it, and all the crafting seems to be there - problem is it takes 375 days to craft a suit of full plate armor while adventuring and 63 days while dawdling somewhere safe. Is this the official ruleset? 'Cause I was just thinking about waiting until I get the kingdom management and then crafting, but knowing Owlcat
    they'll do a Fallout 2 (open)
    and the magical equivalent of a nuclear bomb will go off and destroy my entire kingdom while I'm sitting around crafting
     
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  8. Sharpedge Educated

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    There wouldn't be much rage. Most of the Min/Maxing is 19 levels in class of choice and then 1 level in monk.
     
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  9. Lacrymas Arcane

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    Ah, the ol' 39 sorc/1 pal school of design.
     
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  10. Cael Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    2 levels of Pal.
     
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  11. GloomFrost Savant

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    So dont play as wired multiclasses, use normal classes. Whats the problem?? Game is perfectly beatable on standard difficulty without using just good old Paladin/warrior, assassin/alchemist classes. I honestly cant understand what are you complaining about.
     
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  12. Cael Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    Preventing others from playing the game as they like is pretty much the driving force behind dramafags. Seen enough of them in the old 3.5 boards to know the symptoms.
     
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  13. Xeon Liturgist

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    About Troll Trouble ending,

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    Was it possible to get Tartuk to join you? I just had a conversation with him and could tell him to go away but he probably has loot, so I ended up killing him, I am kinda wondering if its possible to recruit him since when I went outside I saw the little guys being terrified and felt a little sorry. If I could, is there a benefit? like would they provide me stats or something for my kingdom?

    Another question Harrim broke the anvil, if he didn't break it, was there a benefit to it? is it alright if I finish this quest without Harrim and him not leave or something?


    I am not seeing any companions loyalty or something similar to that so I am not entirely sure, do companions have hidden stats of how approving they are of you or is it just specific times only where if you go against their nature and they leave.

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    Also when is a good time to do the Tiefling's quest? I saw a post saying its pretty hard but didn't want to read too much and spoil myself so I am kinda wondering if I manged to do Troll Trouble, does that mean I can do her quest with no problems or is it much harder.

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    Nvm, just did the tiefling's quest and it was pretty easy.
     
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  14. ArchAngel Arcane

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    This is why your royal crafters bring you one magical item every 2 months :)
     
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  15. hell bovine Arcane

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    There is nothing cool or interesting about an auto-attack bot with one special ability button.
     
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  16. ZodoZ Cipher Patron

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    Well not in terms of a game like PF:K. In a game like dark souls a sword master can and I guess is interesting for a lot of people.
    This would be comparing apples and oranges in terms of game system and mechanics.
    I don't know about other people but in DS once my character finds a weapon like Black Knight sword I pretty much stay with that weapon for the duration.
    The interest or captivation doesn't lie in the sword swing moveset obviously as there are only 2 or 3 separate moves possible with any particular weapon.
    More like the fusion of the chosen weapon with combat's "dance" or roll/block/backstep/sprint/dodge/swing mechanics.
    I can't really see doing a run of PF:K with,say, a solo sword saint or tower shield specialist fighter. I guess someone could, theoretically.

    That pretty much would be DS or Fallout or Deus Ex type single character games. Which is cool, I like those games, others like those games, and the reason Porky is going on about is one of the cool aspects. Those games are meant to be played with a single character. Not a 4, 5, or 6 man team which the mechanics of a game like PF:K are centered around.
     
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  17. hell bovine Arcane

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    We're talking about a BG2 kensai here. There is no dancing, only cosmetic attacks.
     
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  18. ZodoZ Cipher Patron

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    Sorry, didn't get the reference.
    https://baldursgate.fandom.com/wiki/Kensai
     
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  19. Xeon Liturgist

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    Is this a good guide for an optimal city layout or is there a better guide somewhere?
    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1580642020

    Been following that guide and I am not seeing a lot of payoff so far and I would rather build everything to suit their end state from the start now that I know how expensive BP really is instead of having to spend more to rebuild things.

    Also I am not seeing a bulletin board anywhere and the guy keeps spamming it almost in every city.
     
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  20. Tacgnol Shitlord Patron

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    Depends on the item value. By tabletop rules, you basically make a craft check once per week and multiply the result by the craft DC if you succeed. You do that until you've "paid" off the item's value converted to silver.

    Full plate armour is 1500 gold value, so depending on your craft skill would probably take a couple of months. 63 days is about right.
     
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  21. PorkyThePaladin Arcane

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    It might be easier for you to understand if you read the entire argument since the beginning.

    Your problem seems to be with the general dullness of melee fighting in D&D games. Kensai in BG2 is no more boring than 2-handed fighter or Aldori Duelist in Kangmaker. Doesn't mean that I want to play a sword saint who is actually a spellcaster.
     
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  22. santino27 Magister

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    Once the DLC is released with the endless dungeon, xp grinding should be a thing if people desire it. In the meantime, yeah... starting the game with xp only for active companions is a good way to boost early gains.
     
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  23. Xeon Liturgist

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    Where the hell do you get a Unicorn Horn? I saw some posts mentioning the Nymph ambush area but there is nothing there, I thought I got it and sold it but its not in shop, is it inside after you unlock the door or did I miss out on it completely?

    It kinda bums me out that Stoneskin communal requires material costs, I didn't notice it at first and was happy filling my spell with it but nope, I can no longer use it. Probably should start saving it for tougher fights.

    Also what does Armor Check Penalty means? Arcane spells check I understand but I am pretty sure it doesn't matter for my Druid since he casts Divine I think but I don't understand what ACP means.
     
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  24. VentilatorOfDoom RPG Codex Staff

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    Diamond dust isn't that expensive, just buy it from the cleric vendors, same with dinosaur bones for legendary proportions spell or diamonds for resurrection spells.
    Armor check penalty is the penalty wearing armor gives you when doing certain actions in which armor will hinder you (stealth for instance, when trying to sneak wearing armor will give you that penalty).
    You can find an unicorn horn in the verdant chambers dungeon later. (inside, not the outside ambush area)
     
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  25. Zero Credibility Arcane

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    You can get the horn during the main quest line in Chapter... 5 I think? It is in the Nymph ambush area, but the dungeon under it only becomes accessible then. Bring high trickery and perception characters for that one, from what I remember, that place is trapped with some nasty traps.
     
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