Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Edition - RTwP incline from Owlcat Games

But that's like saying, oh, I'll make my melee guy have 12 STR and DEX because I don't want the game to be a cakewalk. The problem lies somewhere else methinks.

 

I hope you didn't pick a Wizard either, since they are overpowered as well.

Also don't use the Devourer of Metal longbow, because it's also overpowered.

 

Well, one assumes that all melee classes are balanced towards maxing Strenght or making use of the finesse feats. This is more akin to 'pick this Fighter archetype to multiply STR bonuses by 5'. It feels kinda cheap.

It's not that people don't want to break the game. Rather, they want to be classy about it. It's is not unlike dating, I suppose.

 

Sylvan Sorcerers are pretty overpowered, are you sure you're being cool by picking one?

 

Please, I played 50 different combinations of arcane casters in 100 hours and only killed the stag lord twice. I have been all shades of cool and uncool.

 

Everything is overpowered because dramafags be dramafags.

 

There's a difference between following an optimal build guide and taking 12 str/dex. You don't have to take it to those extremes.

Again, no need to go to those extremes. The game is still challenging with a wizard and that longbow. If you take a pet that does 5x more damage than the next one, that is a little much. But it's not really game-breakingly powerful, I just wouldn't pick one because I like to be creative and try different things than what everyone uses or follows. That's fun for me.

 

The game can still be challenging with a Smilodon, too. And Wizards are actually game-breakingly powerful if you know how to use them.

 

I wonder where experimenting with system to create optimal build fits into this worldview. Or whether player supposed to abandon everything too powerful he created after hours of exercises with test builds.

 

boys, before we continue i'd like to remind you that this started with a gag written under the most :friendly: of banners

 

THE GLORY OF TURN BASED COMBAT HAS ARRIVED ON KANGMAKER!!!

Turn-Based Combat* (Mod on Nexusmods)
https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderkingmaker/mods/109

*(experimental)

 

As I said, I wouldn't argue that one should skip the Smilodon for power reasons, merely for reasons of not following the crowd to create a "perfect" build.

It's fine if you create the build yourself, that's part of the game. What's lame to me is following someone else's guide to perfection because you couldn't or didn't want to be creative yourself. You're missing out on a large part of the game that way.

 

So there is actual extra content in EE ? I thought it was coined EE to re-launch with all current and extra bugfixes seeing how fast they delivered it.
They mentioned in their announcement that they were re-balancing the early and late game. Which I read as making those easier because of all the whining there has been about this game's difficulty since release. Anybody who's trying the beta can confirm this is the case ?

Although it does get way easier at mid-game with any kind of competent build. The game is pretty good at reminding you you're not that big of a deal if you start slacking. Also wizards are super powerfull because of the spell selection, but tbh I can't handle the suffer early game. Old sycamore caves are just a pain on wizard (hard+) with the combat density there. Also I am always annoyed that I want to pick divination spec because of the school powers (great initiative boost and a great save reducing aura) but that's basically sacrificing a bunch of spell slots for it . Sage sorcs with heighten metamagic will end up just as flexible as wizards, and can ramp their DCs higher too.

 

is the enhanced edition out already?
fuck that was quick

 

In open-beta as far as I know.

 

For the Codexers that have played Challenging or Unfair, how well do pets hold up? I was under the impression that damage is so high that you need disables and buffs/debuffs, otherwise you will get stomped. Accordingly, Pets seem like an easy solution or crutch, but do pets just melt at that level?

 

Regarding pets mastodon is big and fucking ugly and can be pain with path-finding. So eh...

 

Wild Gaze when used on animals does Fear instead of Paralyze so for endgame Remove Fear is everything you need to maul some fey with pets actually.

 

That sounds tough. I am curious what melee class could manage Unfair, unless it is just "spray and pray" with spellcasters.

 

Oh god there is seems to be turn based mod for pathfinder!

 

Heh POE btfo!
https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderkingmaker/mods/109

 

With how many combat in the game Turn Based would be a nightmare.

Trying to imagine clearing Pitax Palace on TB is insane and would take very long. Probably will make the game 2 to 3 times longer

 

Those cheeky Russkis actually painted nipples on their naked character models.