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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Edition - RTwP incline from Owlcat Games

Discussion in 'Owlcat Games' started by Elex, Nov 20, 2018.

  1. Haplo Liturgist Patron

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    Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Common, its just 1 char. These things happen in games. I mean, even Aerith had to die for story reasons.
    Conveniently in this case a mercenary recruiter waits for ya just outside the House...
     
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  2. Fedora Master Arcane Patron

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    Now after God knows how many patches. Before that entering the House could easily lead to a no-win scenario.
     
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  3. Shadenuat Arcane

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    HATEOT makes bois into men.
     
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  4. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    It's still buggy. First time I encountered Tristian it bugged out on Jaethal and I couldn't recruit him.
     
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  5. Daidre Arbiter

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    I wonder what house made me into. I would say paranoidal munchkin, but I was one long before setting foot into this place.
     
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  6. Shadenuat Arcane

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    You were already great then.
     
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  7. Fedora Master Arcane Patron

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    The game really shits the bed during the last two chapters and that's a fundamental thing, not something they can just fix with patches.
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    The biggest issue with the House is that it is confusing as fuck. At the very least they could have given the fog a different color so players are made aware that they didn't simply teleport somehow and it's actually a completely different map. The map itself is bad too, since it largely consists of pointless rooms filled with fuck you enemies that aren't fun to fight in the first place. The last two chapters are way too heavy on the fighting anyway. The Castle of Knives right before the House has a perfectly fine mixture of talking and fighting and multiple solutions to problems but all of that completely stops the moment you enter the House. It's reasonable for a player to assume that the trend from Castle of Knives continues. It's not like the House is occupied by mindless undead or beasts, you should be able to talk at least some of the Wild Hunt out of attacking you. Those guys are all chaotic so it's not like they'll kamikaze themselves for the honor of m'lady. The same goes for Maggot Man and Gnarly Witch, you should be able to play them off against each other or something. It would create a nice narrative inversal for the player to go to Nyrissas home and fuck her shit up through guile and sabotage.
     
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  8. Shadenuat Arcane

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    The different color for fog is pretty good idea. You should F11 it.
     
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  9. Thonius Prophet

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    Last chapter is kinda cool btw. Fighting with people you met, fighting alongside your allies. Nice
     
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  10. Fedora Master Arcane Patron

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    Would be even better if they were immune to the Wild Hunt paralysis though.
     
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  11. Jarpie Arcane Patron

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    Codex 2012 MCA
    IIRC there's a way to get rid of at least one the Maggot Man or Gnarly Witch without a fight, it has to do with those mirrors. There's a quest to go from mirror to mirror in the right order, if you do that, you get new dialogue options.
     
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  12. Shadenuat Arcane

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    I think you can deal with both of them without fight.

    They are not the problem though, they are at least unique as enemies. (although not as unique as in pnp where worm-man has Timestop and Flight)
     
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  13. Fedora Master Arcane Patron

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    I never bothered with the mirrors since, well, ain't nobody got time fo' dat.
     
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  14. Bednarz Arcane Patron

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    so I let Ekundayo join my party for the troll boss fight even though he's suboptimal to me and he gets spooked by a random Fear spell causing him to do a Benny Hill race to the other end of the map where some troll beats him up into Death's Door until I come after him 10 minutes later and discover his wimping self spread flat on the ground making guttural noises, his wolf (dog) never paying greater attention and being arguably far more of an addition to the team

    I am trying not to say something racist right now
     
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  15. Reinhardt Arcane

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  16. Tiger Learned

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    Well. Been playing this a day. Wasn't sure I was going to get used to the combat, which is a bit manic for my alcohol-riddled old-man reactions. Tried turn based mod. Then tried fast-travel mod, which has an option to auto slow combat to half speed. Finally everything falls in to place. Holy shit what a game this is. Owlcat need to incorporate this stuff in to the game.
     
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  17. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    Speed slider really needs to be part of the base game, I have no idea how people play with the regular movement speed. I have out of combat movement speed set to 300%.
     
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  18. Tiger Learned

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    I've no idea how people play with vanilla speed combat. I modded PoE1 to slow combat speed way down. I'm a control freak and have to micro every detail. Slowing it all down is the only way I can bare it, short of turn-based which obviously isn't coming to PoE1.
     
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  19. Shadenuat Arcane

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    Every hyperactive mountain dew who thinks that walking Infinity Engine-style while drinking your tea, making monocled notes on builds and arguing with 9 year experience pnp players in the meanwhile is bad and needs their dumb mod should get a special treatment from the game, where game autodeletes all their mods and activates season of rains for 3 in game months + party slowing down and enemy getting concealment from your ranged weapons. Also Tristian getting struck with lightning bolt all the time and panicking and running into owlbears gettin mauled.
     
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  20. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    enjoy spending 3 years to watching your character walk from the throne to the room exit
     
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  21. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite

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    So you've played the Enhanced endgame and it's still terrible? :(
     
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  22. Fedora Master Arcane Patron

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    Not yet but I very much doubt the House has changed significantly.
     
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  23. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    turned difficulty down to power through hoteot, the endless combat waves of the same 3-4 identical monsters with nothing inbetween just isn't fun, I want to be done with this area
     
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  24. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    Are there any other universalist spells in the game?
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  25. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    hoteot is buggy as fuck
     
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