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KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

Discussion in 'Owlcat Games' started by MicoSelva, Sep 25, 2018.

  1. holla_cabezas_de_mierda Arcane

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    sounds like you have done exhaustive research. I can tell you are patient and like to read lots of words and get into the story by your thorough examination. Does not sound like this is the right type of game for you. There are many point and click puzzle games on steam, lots of them have great anime and deep character building that goes along with it.
     
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  2. Yosharian Cipher

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    When you say 'tracked', do you actually mean tracked, as in using the survival skill, or do you mean you walked down a corridor map?
     
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  3. Alienman Arcane Patron

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    Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2
    What program do you recommend ?
     
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  4. Jinn Arcane

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    I mean "tracked" as in I needed to pass at least 2 varied skill rolls to find their camp. General exploration of the world map would probably bring you there, but only after awhile of looking.
     
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  5. Deadman Arcane Patron

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    Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    You can do both. Track them after the encounter, or randomly stumble on their camp while travelling across the map (afaik)
     
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  6. ItsChon Resident Zoomer Patron

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    I feel like people are overexaggerating the difficulty of the combat. Regardless, when I first joined the forum I said that all we fucking needed was an IE-style game with writing on par with IWD or BG, and people shitted on me for expressing that opinion. We've now got an IE-style game with god-awful writing, and people are singing its praises like it's the second coming of Christ. I'll try the shit out and maybe stick with it if the combat is as good as people are claiming, but the writing looks fucking horrible. All the retards claiming it's endearing because it doesn't take itself too seriously have already been so cucked that they'll make excuses for anything.
     
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  7. holla_cabezas_de_mierda Arcane

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    if I had my way I would prefer turn based ToEE type combat. That would make this perhapse the best CRPG game ever. But under the circumstances, based upon where we are today with regards to gaming and CRPG specifically, I am very pleased with this game..and I can only think its going to get better as they fix bugs, release DLC and make sequels. Who knows... perhaps they will eventually release an option to play the game with a true ToEE style turn based system? Or better yet, switch back and forth between RTwP and turn-based depending on type of encounter. however, even if they never do, this game seems to be the start of something good.
     
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  8. TemplarGR Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Bethestard

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    People have been making excuses for mediocre "incline" games since the kickstarter fad started...
     
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  9. Ravn7 Educated

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    It's a shame they didn't make it turn-based. Not only those games play better but also sell much better.
     
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  10. Raghar Arcane

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    Have you tried to force VSYNC in drivers? Open NVIDIA panel, select game exe, and select force VSYNC.
     
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  11. Luckmann Arcane Zionist Agent

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    The writing so far really is awful. I almost burst out laughing at the awfulness of it all when you meet the inquisitor lady during the intro events and she just blurts out what amounts to "I'm undead. I'll tell you later."
     
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  12. Tao Learned

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    A few questions:
    -Where is the raven familiar?
    -Can we get improved familiar? (consular imp specifically)
    -Angel blood give wings at lv10 like in pnp?

    The character creation is great but there a little lack of information. Mostly bc i dont know what is true to pnp and what did they change.

    Anyways 5h to make my char just to dump him at the final check. I'm loving the game already :thumbsup:
     
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    On god I'd alt-f4 and automatically refund the game. Something that bad deserves to be pirated on principle.
     
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  14. Alienman Arcane Patron

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    Emos gonna emo :)
     
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  15. taviow Magister

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    Yeah NVIDIA control panel doesn't do anything. Had to force it to 60 through RTSS.

    Also does anyone else think the game feels like it's going in slow motion? Particularly the movement speed of the characters. The combat speed I don't mind.
     
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  16. Luckmann Arcane Zionist Agent

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    Well obviously I didn't pay for this.

    Between Neo-MCA, Paizo/Pathfinder in the background, the Golarion setting, and overtly SocJus developers, there was no chance this wasn't going to be a trainwreck of some kind.
     
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  17. Kyl Von Kull The Night Tripper Patron

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    You guys are kidding yourselves if you think the writing here is worse than Baldur’s Gate. How can you praise BG writing and then in the next breath claim we’re making excuses for PK when we say it doesn’t take itself too seriously? BG didn’t take itself too seriously either and believe me, the selling point for that series was never the writing. Kingmaker’s writing is really more than decent. I’m not sure what people think is so awful aside from the guys who get triggered by the occasional empowered female character.

    You can’t fucking win with some people. POE and TTON and Tyranny were too florid, too wordy, too pretentious... now Kingmaker is too unserious.

    ItsChon, humor me here: what would you consider good CRPG writing?

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    Andhaira don’t know if anyone’s answered this, but yes Eldritch Knight is in as a prestige class. And while I have no idea how Magi play in p&p Pathfinder, spell combat and spellstrike are both pretty useful so far.
     
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  18. Israfael Arcane

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    Someone asked it on the stream, they said what basically amounted to 'we don't have such plans' with a tinge of 'it'd be hard to balance / who actually wants that'.
     
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  19. Salvo Learned

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    Yes, yes, everything is shit, carry on.
     
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  20. bataille Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Some people seem not to know how to handle such incline! I'm so prepared to play this, though, holy shiet. Pumped and ready to go! 20 minutes till the download ends!

    Show Spoiler
    Feeling like a child in a candy store. Where oh where have such feelings gone!
     
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  21. Aemar Erudite

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    Any news on the Realms Beyon...? Oh, my mistake, I thought this was the Realms Beyond thread, not the Crapfinder: Shitmaker one.
     
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  22. ItsChon Resident Zoomer Patron

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    Are you out of your fucking mind? How can you equate this,
    upload_2018-9-25_23-37-54.png
    with anything in Baldur's Gate? Notice how I said IWD and BG level writing, versus just saying good writing. BG and IWD don't have "good" writing, in the sense that it's not on the level of a game like PS:T, or Underrail. That doesn't change the fact that the writing in these games creates an immersive setting with endearing characters and quests
    [​IMG] (taken from Lilura's blog lol)
    What in gods name is wrong with the opening scene of Icewind Dale? People on the Codex are really so fucking delusional that they praise games like FO1 & 2 for their writing while simultaenously shitting on BG and IWD.
    Again, what the fuck are you talking about? You're right, BG didn't take itself too seriously. That doesn't mean it had dogshit writing like this game seems to have. As for IWD, the writing was actually pretty damn good despite its linearity.
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    Do I really have to provide more examples of the absolutely god awful writing in this game? Why are you shilling it so hard.
    It's not too unserious, it's too fucking shit.
    :rage:
     
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  23. aweigh Arcane

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    I just use the nvidia driver frame-rate limiter accessible thru Inspector:

    [​IMG]
     
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  24. you know what time it is Arcane

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    Some thoughts after a couple of hours: Stats for some creatures are way overtuned, on average you have like 25% chance to hit a random ass boar (on challenging difficulty), which is just bullshit, loading screens are annoying in the same way they were in first PoE, world map movement restrictions are just bizarre, why didn't they make it similar to deadfire or M&B is beyond me. Aside from that the game seems to be alright so far, i'll reserve my judgement till I get to the meaty stuff (kingdom management and all that jazz). It's channeling IE experience fairly well though.
     
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  25. holla_cabezas_de_mierda Arcane

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    From your example I actually have no idea how bad that writing may or may not be. There is no context. I am not saying you are wrong, but somebody saying they are an undead creature and will talk to you about the details of it later does not to me say much of anythingg. Who else was in the room? What were you talking about? Why was she dismissive? Why did she mention it at all?

    I think its clear the games writing is not novel worthy nor is it trying to be a RPG novel, but your example is almost totally meaningless since its devoid of any context, and its just an approximation anyway, as you said you are paraphrasing. I have no way to judge what you are talking about except I am just supposed to accept that being told (in a roundabout and non specific manner) that somebody is undead and that they will talk to you about it later is some sort of obvious and universally understood quality marker as it relates writing.
     
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