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KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

Discussion in 'Owlcat Games' started by MicoSelva, Sep 25, 2018.

  1. Salvo Learned

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    She appears unscathed after walking through a cluster of traps designed to hurt the living. When you ask how, she claims she's undead and that there's no time to explain since you're under attack. Wasn't THAT bad looking to me.
     
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  2. Fedora Master Arcane Patron

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    When the combat flows, it flows:
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    When it doesn't though...
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  3. bataille Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I think it's more 'you were unscathed by an attack' rather than dodge. The thought is that if something indeed manages to hurt you, it doesn't matter how many layers of metal it passed through, you're still shanked. On the other hand, it doesn' work all that well for CLUBBERING scenarios.

    It's kinda unconventional by today's standards, though, this much is true.

    Edit: Oh hell, I'm answering to things that have already been answered. Again. The ride never ends!
     
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  4. Salvo Learned

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    You should have brought your weighted dice.
     
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  5. holla_cabezas_de_mierda Arcane

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    I feel you. I mean you took the time to pirate their work, and how did they repay you? By wasting your time with well.....I am not sure really, some lady saying she was an undead creature...and she just blurted it out even! WTF? You should defiantly report them.
     
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  6. archaen Arbiter Patron

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    I am playing on challenging which is one level up from the suggested and even playing the Beta and having meta, I can still easily die if the dice go wrong. One of the problems is that none of the player controlled NPCs are min-maxed and in actuality can be head-on-pants-retarded like Valerie. That isn't true for the enemy NPCs. Those fuckers are min-maxed to the teeth. Nothing like attacking an enlarged warrior with 21 AC with a +9 to hit and 30 hp and his three other min-maxed companions at level 2. I wouldn't be surprised if the derpy head writer (I luv my romance kthnx bye!) guy built all the player npcs(Ameri is decent as she was built by Paizo), and all the pathfinder grognards on staff statted out the enemies. It gets a lot easier if you know how to build characters as the game goes on as you can repair and work around their bad decisions or replace them with your own NPCs.

    As for the writing, this is goddamn pathfinder distilled through above mentioned head writer...What do you expect? Eventually all the "I am strong independent WOMAN" and "I am Shinji in cleric form" runs out and you are concentrating on getting your kingdom up and running, talking with state actors, and fucking up enemy nations.
     
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  7. dragonul09 Arcane Edgy

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    True, but you can tell Amiri to shut the fuck up and never raise her voice at you again and guess what, she does like a good whore would do. This is where I aprove with the writing, I don't give a shit about your plight of being a woman, never raise your voice at me again, wham bam thank you mam and the discussion was ended. I can feel like a man again:happytrollboy:
     
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  8. SophosTheWise Arbiter

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    Funny that you say that because words like "shit" were already very well in use in the middle ages (although taboo) and the word "crap" has its roots in Middle English ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Complaining about "anachronistic" language is stupid most of the time because the complaint is based on some very skewed view of a) language and b) the way people in certain periods actually talked.

    Most RPG speak has nothing to do with any kind historical use of language, see Ultima et al with its use of thys, thees, thines etc. And holy shit, I'm glad about this because it would be decidedly unfun for me as a german-speaker to play any middle-ages-inspired RPG because holy fuck have you ever read any Walter von der Vogelweide or any other Middle High German poet?

    Have fun with stuff such as this:

    Nideriu minne heizet diu sô swachet,
    daz der lîp nâch kranker liebe ringet.
    diu minne tuot unlobelîche wê.
    hôhiu minne heizet diu daz machet,
    daz der muot nâch hôher wirde űf swinget.
    diu winket mir nű, daz ich mit ir gê.
    mich wundert wes diu mâze beitet:
    kumet diu herzeliebe, ich bin iedoch verleitet.
    mîn ougen hânt ein wîp ersehen,
    swie minneclîche ir rede sî,
    mir mac wol schade von ir geschehen
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    I mean sure go ahead! I'm sure people will LOVE this historically correct usage of language! Or let's go even further back to the Hildebrandslied in Old High German! Even more fun!

    Ik gihorta dat seggen,
    dat sih urhettun ænon muotin,
    Hiltibrant enti Hadubrant untar heriun tuem.
    sunufatarungo iro saro rihtun.
    garutun se iro gudhamun, gurtun sih iro suert ana,
    helidos, ubar hringa, do sie to dero hiltiu ritun.

    Yes, I'm exaggeragting but my point is this: if you have complaints about language in a game, it's probably on you. It's your understanding of how language works and not language itself. If you'd analyze any dialogue in modern games, you'd realize that so much of our languages is so randomly cobbled together (even moreso in English) that basically every word in every dialogue could be questioned in regards to its historical usage, its origin in other languages. Many, many words that you'd never suspect would end up on a blacklist.

    Because modern language is modern language. Language is not just grammar and words. And to add to that, it's also in a constant flow of development on every level which is quite logical as language has no "correct" way or essence from which it can "deviate". The view that language is entropically destroyed away from some sort of pure form is ludicrous. That's why linguistics is descriptive and not prescriptive.
     
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  9. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    This is made on Unity? pass
     
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  10. Luckmann Arcane Zionist Agent

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    I gave plenty of context. She blurts out what amounts to "I'm undead. I'll tell you later."

    Any other lack of context is lacking because there essentially is no relevant context beyond that, which is why it's awful. There is absolutely no reason for her to tell you, let alone in such a way, then and there. The "reason" given is that there are traps somewhere that does not affect her, but this is in no way relevant, since they are easily discovered by one mandatory party member, and then as easily removed by another mandatory party member.

    It's in the first 10 minutes of the game or so. Can't miss it. It's hilariously bad.
     
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  11. Fedora Master Arcane Patron

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    >People who can't read Middle High German
    lol plebs, I bet sê canne nâteðæshwôn secgan ealdlic hôc. :smug:
     
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  12. AwesomeButton Cut a deal with the authorities Patron

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    PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Only at release Deadfire was bugged, and all difficulty levels were serving the same number of enemies as Normal. PotD was still adding the stat buffs, but that was it. Try playing on PotD now ;)
     
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  13. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    After four hours of so called sleep,i feel like shit. No better time to go diving in this pile of manure. I noticed most people here that spam how great the game is and brofist everything positive about it,haven't even played the game. Bunch of cucks! Now i go to kill the retarded bear on story mode....hope i win!
     
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  14. Deadman Arcane Patron

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    Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    I haven't seen forces of DECLINE working so hard to bring down an inclined CRPG with slander and other devious tricks since the coming of Grimoire.
    It seems they consider this to be some kind of final battle or apocalyptic event since they bring out all the sleeper agents of DECLINE they had on rpgcodex.
     
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  15. archaen Arbiter Patron

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    Not if you want the cheevo:

    Slayer of Bears
    In chapter 1, kill the bear in the Temple of the Elk with single level 2 character, playing on Advanced difficulty or above.
     
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  16. holla_cabezas_de_mierda Arcane

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    okay, does not seem that awful to me... but I am still at the character building portion of the game for the last 4 hours, so I will see for myself soon hopefully
     
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  17. AwesomeButton Cut a deal with the authorities Patron

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    'Sup, Josh!

    Yes, it is a good thing. The player should not need a calculator to weigh which moment-to-moment decision is better.

    That's why your Deadfire is tanking now, and not in the MMO sense!
     
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  18. Kyl Von Kull The Night Tripper Patron

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    What the fuck are you talking about? She’s standing there unharmed in a room full of corpses. You ask her how the hell she survived, and that’s when she tells you she’s undead, because it’s the answer to your question.

    This may be a reading comprehension issue.
     
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  19. Andnjord Arcane

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    So... this actually looks like a good murderhobo simulator? Well, fuck me sideways and call me a darling but I thought this just wasn't possible anymore. Looks like I'll have to dive back into D20 class system and remember how to make overpowered munchkins again! Oh those sweet hours spent in SoZ crafting the perfect party...:bounce:
     
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  20. holla_cabezas_de_mierda Arcane

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    is that really Josh? Or you just funnin'?
     
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  21. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    :hmmm:
    Geee what an amazing game balance,i got my self the froth cleric/support caster......now if only there was an offensive caster in the whole game.
     
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  22. AwesomeButton Cut a deal with the authorities Patron

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    I'm not so sure about that. Positioning can be pretty important in RtwP, you can see that even in the IE games. It plays a role in the AI's decision-making about who to attack next.
    One thing you definetly should do is - disable your VSynch from your videocard's control panel, and then enable it in the game. Or the opposite - disable VSynch in the game options, and then enable it through the videocard control panel. This is a Unity thing, or at least I read as much. Should improve your FPS and GPU temperature.

    It's not too late to make it into a much more IE-like combat experience, the modding possibilities are there.
     
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  23. holla_cabezas_de_mierda Arcane

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    BTW I bought SoZ (NWN2 complete) for like 5 dollars or something awhile ago with the goal of playing SoZ since it is gets fairly high praise for people who like making a party of characters and going on an adventure, but I have not got around to playing it yet..is it still worth it, in this day and age? The IE games age well, I am not sure about the NWN2 engine aging as well. If I enjoyed Icewind Dale more than BG (which I do), is this a game still worth playing today?
     
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  24. Andnjord Arcane

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    Also, this is still number on STEAM seller and has the first Featured & Recommended slot. WAT is this madness! Incline?
     
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  25. holla_cabezas_de_mierda Arcane

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    I don't have the skills or time to learn them at this time in my life. But if somebody did a good adaption I would pay a lot of money to buy it
     
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