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KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

Discussion in 'Owlcat Games' started by MicoSelva, Sep 25, 2018.

  1. ga♥ Liturgist

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    It's +6 WIS/CHA not con. And gives some DR against bludgeoning. It's pretty cool. And everyone can use it AFAIK.
     
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  2. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    You sure it's not CON? I thought it was. Hang on, let me load the game to check.

    *10 minutes later, Jasede is nowhere to be seen... he's still loading.*
     
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  3. vazha Arbiter

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    So basically a superior version to the headband of perfection/crown if you dumped your int? damn.
     
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  4. ga♥ Liturgist

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    If you let Jaethaifu reincarnate in her daughter... does it happen in the playthrough? Is it worth it?
     
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  5. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    ...how old is this daughter? Asking for a friend.
     
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  6. Fedora Master Arcane Patron

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    Is there an overview of the artefact fragments and where to find them? I don't think I've managed to complete ONE of those in 200 hours of play time.
     
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  7. Fedora Master Arcane Patron

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    Don't worry bro, she looks like she's 13 but she's an elf and thus really 300 years old. Trust me.
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  8. ga♥ Liturgist

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    I managed to make 3 of them and NEVER used them. They are pretty shit.
     
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  9. vazha Arbiter

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    Not really. They're heavily specialized, yes, but some of them are quite powerful too. Ring of reckless courage is a must for any enchanter, just as the cloak of sold souls is for a necromant. Trailblazer helm is a meh, gauntlets (bugged) might be handy against fey, the first necklace is a lifesaver when you get it for your ranged rogue, the smilodon armor I imagine would be handy for a wildform specialized druid and the star commander's gloves is just an OP joke item, that really breaks immersion and shouldn't be there. The ring and that cloak though? Superb things.
     
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  10. ga♥ Liturgist

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    Never had the gloves. The cloak is cursed.Regarding the ring of reckless courage... it has too many negative effects tbqh. At best it can be situational when you have a fight you can't win and you need that +2 DC on mind affecting things. So far I never had to use it. Same story for the cloak.
     
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  11. Morkar illiterate

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    That's ridiculous for d20. If that's their sense of balancing stuff I'm really concerned...
     
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  12. vazha Arbiter

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    In min-maxing, lies the truth, my child. You don't need much con as a necromancer(In fact, two casters specializing in necromancy and enchantment have a wonderful sinergy), and if you're wizard and a -2 on will saves makes you vulnerable, then you aren't much of a wizard in the first place.
     
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  13. ga♥ Liturgist

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    The ring is a whooping -3 on will saves.Anyway I think it depends on what difficulty are you playing. I am playing on a custom with "normal stats "normal crits", damage to party 1.0, and I disabled death's door. So far, I am a lvl15 conjurer (which I regret picking,evoker or necro would have been much better), fights are not hard anymore so I don't need to squeeze everything.
     
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  14. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    Honestly, that's pretty standard. D&D was always kind of shit with loot unless you have a low-level low-magic loving DM. It's perfectly normal to have +4 gear at level 14-16, and this game reflects that. If finding a +4 STR/DEX belt disgusts you this is not the game for you.

    Also that's a late, lategame helmet. It'd be useless if it were weaker - which, again, is normal in D&D at these levels.
     
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  15. vazha Arbiter

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    So we are having, ahem, an appendage measure contest here? Playing on unfair, with every difficulty maxed and that rings a lifesaver. Especially considering my mainchar is a pally and I can do the cha to saves trick (minute per level, at that!) to Octavia. As for the necro cloak... Well, Tristian isn't complaining, possibly due to his earlier cock-ups. But it's real handy to boneshatter bosses and then plague-swarm their minions. My melee dudes, including nok-nok just stand there, yawning, while Octavia and Tristian do all the work and BAM does his sniping thing.
     
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  16. ga♥ Liturgist

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    Exactly, I can see how on higher difficulties, on the right char, in the right fight, the ring (or cloak) can be awesome. But that's I what already said. It's situational. We are not talking about a "Carsomyr: Holy avenger" situation.
     
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  17. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    I mean... that's situational too! The situation being, you are fielding a Paladin that uses 2-handed weapons - far from being a given. Your counter-argument: well, yeah, but Keldorn joins you and he's a powerful Paladin that uses 2-handed weapons! And my counterpoint: yes, but in this game, a dwarven Cleric straight up built for Necromancy joins you, too. He can really benefit from that cloak! As could the waifu elf, if you wanted to build her for that.

    Personally haven't found a good use for the ring yet. We talking about the +2d6 sneak attack damage ring? If I put that on Nok-Nok he turns my party into bloody ribbons in 2 seconds.
     
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  18. ga♥ Liturgist

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    It's a different ring. Also, if this game had proper mages, and proper magic battles that -3 to will saves would rape you.
    The cloak to Jatheifu seems a nice idea; especially if you have her ranged, since she has no CON.

    P.S carsomyr can be used by everyone with the thief Use any item or how it was called.
     
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  19. vazha Arbiter

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    No that's an amulet. The ring gives
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    +4 (stacking!) bonus to cha, 4 to critical confirmation rolls, 4 to trickery and 2 DC on mind affecting spells (notwithstanding the school - any CC spellcaster will benefit from it) and a -2 penalty to Wisdom, further -2 penalty to will saves, -4 to perception and skill checks, -10 against traps (basically warns you not to use it if octavia is your main traps specialist.
    Well worth it if you ask me.
     
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  20. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    Not if you don't have ToB, which is meh anyway.
     
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  21. ga♥ Liturgist

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    You get also confused for 1d4 rounds if someone crits you.
     
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  22. vazha Arbiter

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    Also, regarding the companion quests, Regongar
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    Just got a veeeery nifty cloak (something a fighter would kill for) that only he can use. Bastard.
     
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  23. ga♥ Liturgist

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    On my playtrough it bugged out and I got two of them.
     
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  24. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    Grrrr this is what I get for trusting...

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    a black guy:

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  25. Parabalus Arcane

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    Some aren't in the game yet, bugs galore.

    Here's a list, the necklace is especially great for how soon you get it. Insane on Nok-Nok.
     
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