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KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

Discussion in 'Owlcat Games' started by MicoSelva, Sep 25, 2018.

  1. ga♥ Liturgist

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    Well yes. Chilly midnight (best anti immortality weapon). But he had it like the whole game and never happened before.
     
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  2. Shadenuat Arcane

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  3. hell bovine Arcane

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    Blame the hotfix. (whichever it was)
     
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  4. Gaius maximus Arbiter

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    If you change aligment as a monk from truewhatever you loose his feats/abilities?planning to dip one lvl but change aligment later.
     
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  5. Shadenuat Arcane

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    Yea but there is the Scroll of Decline you can use to change back your alignment
     
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  6. ga♥ Liturgist

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    Scroll of Decline should cost 360k or 1 ability score (permanently).
     
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  7. Gaius maximus Arbiter

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    So lawful neutral and lawfull good are good fro kingdom management?
     
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  8. Yosharian Cipher

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    ?

    Not sure why you're asking me this, but if you go Rogue, the Finesse route is quite good because you get the relevant feats for free. Having to specialise to get Dex-to-damage still sucks, though.

    But I would never take Rogue in the first place.

    Edit: ok I think I see what you're getting at. You mean the Strength-focused nature of some Intimidation abilities/feats runs in opposition to the Thug's dexterity focus.

    Well, you don't HAVE to take Cornugon/Intimidating Prowess. Strength is just more intimidating than Dex. Meh.
     
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  9. Yosharian Cipher

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  10. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    "Guarded Hearth"
     
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  11. ga♥ Liturgist

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    How are the loading times on the 1.1 beta? Unchanged? Better/worse?

    Also beware of black market goods

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    650BP for fucking generic +5 weapon with no special ability? meh.
     
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  12. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    The main menu initial load is much faster.
    The game loading itself is faster for some, not much faster for others. Loading throne room is still as annoying as ever.
     
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  13. *-*/\--/\~ Arbiter

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    Same thing happened to me with Brineheart - appeared on the map, but no road to it.

    Frankly, I wish I had just missed the game and discovered it during some Christmas sale. 2019 one, that is.
     
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  14. Fenix Cipher Vatnik

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    It is - Russia BITCH!
    When game plays YOU!
     
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  15. Shadenuat Arcane

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    Yeah. But... what's the point then. Feels like you best leave it at like Thug 4 dip and level as a Fighter. Thought there would be some sort of beat them up ability to apply the actual bonus like https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/enforcer-combat/
     
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  16. Serus Arcane

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    That's the issue, isn't it? If you want to make use of the frightening of thug, you need use dazzling display or cornugon smash. The only question is - to which I don't know the answer - is whether you can get high enough intimidate without intimidation prowess/going for strength build. If you can, then going DEX is the better route, but I'd probably go for strength to be sure. Besides it also makes sense role-playing wise (yeah, I know... larping) - a "thug" is not someone I imagine being into finesse much. Strong, brutish and intimidating sounds correct. And mechanically it should work well enough so I'd go with a STR based thug, but that's me.
     
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  17. Shadenuat Arcane

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    Ok admit kinda hilarious

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    And On Kill they all run

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    But unless all into Cloudkill they go (or at least Web) annoying as hell sort off, as Panda pointed out - they all run into different directions

    RUN ELFS RUN

    (a train of 50 more wild hunters gathered by scared one appears)

    oh-oh.
     
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  18. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    I was a fool!

    I thought beta patch would fix my Jubilost issue...

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    It's so many now that it can't be displayed on the screen anymore...
     
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  19. Luckmann Arcane Zionist Agent

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    To be fair, while it's easy to default to the idea of rogues being Dex-based, a Str-based rogue in PF:K isn't going to have a bad time by any stretch of the imagination. Rogues don't really need to rely on any Dex-based aspects in PF:K, and is perfectly well off without things like Stealth. I'd throw in a level of fighter or maybe even four and go to town as a Thug. As a half-orc, of course.
     
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  20. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    It's really hard to argue with the +10 AC a Dex build can easily give you.
     
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  21. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    Whoops, now my rest menu while traveling disappeared. As in, when you hit "rest" no menu appears.
     
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  22. ColonelTeacup Liturgist

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    I don't see the problem, can never have enough jubilost.
     
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  23. Yosharian Cipher

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    There is absolutely no way a Dex build gives +10AC over a similarly-built Strength one.
     
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  24. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    And how in the world is that supposed to be possible?

    Let's say we top out at a Dex score of 36. That's +13 AC from Dex alone, +4-5 from Mage Armor/Bracers.

    How could a strength build possibly compete? You can slap some +2 plate on there, and maybe a tower shield, I guess? But... eh, that's neither very roguish nor thuggish, is it?

    I don't understand how Strength is giving you any AC at all.
     
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  25. ArchAngel Arcane

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    You need Ekun and another dedicated archer to make use of this "feature".
     
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