KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Finally saw the video (part 2), and the game looks like absolute dog shit. The lighting is bad, the 3D graphics and animations are absolutely disgusting, combat looks unintuitive and clunky, and that fucking dialogue...

"Stay out of my way or I'll cleave you with my sword too!"

"I'm afraid I can't offer you the same haha. Ugly mug, get them!"

I know BG had its own cheese moments, but those were pulled off in a way that made them slightly endearing; this shit is just bad.

 

D&D games tend to be playable regardless of how they look. What I'm hoping for is a functional combat system, fun companion interactions and a not retarded story. Something a little bit better than NWN2 base game. I don't think I'm asking a lot. Speaking of NWN2, I'm expecting it to be kinda like that in terms of ...pretty much everything.

 

From the beta you can already see this is miles better than NWN2. No retarded resting, better companions, no terrible camera system..

 

We'll see when it comes out. Especially the better companions.

 

I wouldn't hold my breath on the better companions. From what I can see, we have a selection of Qara, emo-child or "Hi! I'm a tranny!" in that game.

 

Yeah, that was a sarcastic jab at ArchAngel. I know the companions will be cringey and *-~ modern ~-*. NWN2 companions had some great moments actually, the quarrel between Sand and Qara, the fight between Bishop and Casavir over a female protagonist, the banter. Generally the interactions between each other, not only with the protagonist. Also sometimes the companions passing skill checks you fail, but it was too infrequent. They also weren't a cast of special snowflakes who fought for time in the spotlight and proudly proclaiming what issues they have or what they've done. They did have issues, but they weren't obnoxious with them. Judging by the mere descriptions of this game's companions, it's clear it's going to be a cringefest, I'm so glad you can make your own party.

 

Except Nok-Nok

One of the rare things the OC did better than MoTB.

 

Yeah, the interactions between companions in MotB wasn't great. They had very few lines directed at each other (like Gann's "have the priestess fan me with her wings") and that's it. I hadn't really noticed it before I thought about it because these people really have nothing in common, so what are they going to talk about? Gann's witticisms would've started to grate at one point if he did it every time he opened his mouth. The OC's companions were kinda written to have natural banter, MotB's not so much. I don't prefer any method, but MotB had a story to tell and the companions were part of if, I doubt Kingmaker is like that. The OC was more like an adventure with your buddies, and I sincerely hope Kingmaker is like that too, not try to be "deep".

 

There is Grobnar, who has banter with just about everyone, most of it at his expense.

"That's it. We bury the gnome here. ALIVE."

Problem with the banter is that some had much more than others.

Khelgar is hilarious in his OTT smash-happy way.
Neeshka can be grating or hilarious, depending on what is happening and who she is with.
Elanee is pretty dull, but most pragmatic and Good of the lot (fits her NG alilgnment to a T).
Casavir has few lines and none of them memorable. Lazy writing, whoever that wrote him. Very lazy writing.
Grobnar is always hilarious regardless of who he is with. Khelgar, Shandra and Sand all had great banters with him. And if you had him along when Shandra got killed... His reaction will hit you like a train.
Qara is grating, period. Part of the problem is that they are trying to portray a maladjusted kid with a ton of power at her fingertips and has never learnt restraint, but the writers never gave her any growth. She was still the same immature brat she was at the end of the game as she was at the beginning. That grates horribly.
Sand is, well, Sand. Probably the most well-written of the lot. His banter with Shandra is also noteworthy.
Bishop is another horribly written one-dimensional character, and worst of all, he is a bloody obvious railroad that might as well be prancing around with flashing lights and striped bars.
The last two (not counting Golem for the obvious reason) really didn't have much banter, although Zhajev and Ammon fought all the time. That is more to do with them being introduce at what is literally the final act of the game. They simply didn't have the screentime, and by that part of the game, most people would already have an established party they'd take with them. When one of them were forced into the party, it was more an irritation than because the player wanted them to be in it. Just bad plotting.

 

As I remember it, my initial experience with NWN2 ended shortly after meeting that character.

 

Her best lines comes after hitting Neverwinter, so you missed out.

 

"This water is so unnatural and deep, not like the swamp of dead people I grew up in."

 

Bishop: Well then you'll be paying me another way. My bedroll's a little cold at night - I'm thinking you can fix that.
Neeshka: I could always set you on fire, Bishop. That'd solve two problems.


Khelgar Ironfist: Just to make sure my eyes aren't lying to me - a huge suit of armor did smash through here, attack the githyanki - and us - then we drove it back to the portal?
Neeshka: No... no, that's about right.
Khelgar Ironfist: Good. Because if my drinking is catching up with me, I'm stopping right now.

 

What? Who's tranny? Where you getting it?

 

Huh I ques I don't see tranys in every game... weird me right?

 

Your level of English is too low to understand sarcasm. Gain more experience and levels before returning.

 

Interesting suggestion, from respected gentlemen.

 

As fantadomat would say: Those are the signs of a prestigious club.

 

Only thing worse than a dumbfuck is a proud dumbfuck.. welcome to a Trump club Cael.

 

But you are missing the edge tag mate. There is nothing more glorious than edgy proud dumbfuck! Stop being envious and try to get your own edgy dumbfuck tags .

 

Not possible. It takes more than stalking and flaming someone who can't even normally see his shit to get so prestigious a tag.

And dude, I wish you never answered him so I didn't have to see his shit

 

Yeah,we both worked hard on pissing the Mossad agent for our tags. It is a badge of honour in my eyes!

 

You two sound like total cucks. No point in being proud of tags when they're meaningless. Just put on by some Chris Priestly-esque mods that want to defend this cuck site. Fuck the Cuckdex.