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KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

Father Foreskin

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There is 17k people playing this and you cant even finish it? Must be a fucking promising game then considering the genre.
 

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There is 17k people playing this and you cant even finish it? Must be a fucking promising game then considering the genre.
It is, and also the early part of the game is relatively bug-free. Pretty much every conversation on the Steam forums involves someone saying this game is great and people are just overestimating all the bugs, there arent any, then they get a bit further and understand what people are talking about. Repeat ad nauseum
 

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How the hell do I beat Vordakai, he keeps fingering my main char to death:lol:, he doesnt attack anyone else but my main, so I get insta killed as soon as Tristian leaves.
 

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Bob the alchemist has finally made it Baron Bob! (admittedly I didn't think far ahead when I named him :lol:)
And now he will be going on a longer vacation, until a reasonably stable patch status is achieved. (so probably next year...)

Anyone looking for an alchemist portrait, I am using this one:
the_alchemist_by_grafit_art-dbm0kxj.jpg
 

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Pope Amole II your min max builds are getting questioned for their mix maxiness!

Oh, that's just a dumbfuck who watches video with is ass and then complains. I was clearly stating that I'm reviewing all the spells and then picking up whatever just to move on quickly. No, fucker has to show off just how smart he is. Well, 2015 is so 2015.
I have legit question about yor build videos.
Are they pure theorycrafting? Or do you take into account game's content? Like what types of enemies your fight on what character levels, what type of gear you can find and etc?
Have you actually beatem the game?
 

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Pope Amole II your min max builds are getting questioned for their mix maxiness!

Oh, that's just a dumbfuck who watches video with is ass and then complains. I was clearly stating that I'm reviewing all the spells and then picking up whatever just to move on quickly. No, fucker has to show off just how smart he is. Well, 2015 is so 2015.
Question:
Why do you think arcane bond: item is bad?
+4 initiative or w/e from familar is good, but getting to cast your best spell twice seems even better to me, especially early/mid game.

Additionally: what is your opinion on heighten metamagic? +1 DC to all spells at the low cost of extra micromanagement and one feat seems pretty good.
 
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How the hell do I beat Vordakai, he keeps fingering my main char to death:lol:, he doesnt attack anyone else but my main, so I get insta killed as soon as Tristian leaves.
Death ward cleric spells, and that's not guaranteed still.
 

Pope Amole II

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I have legit question about yor build videos.
Are they pure theorycrafting?

Ofc they are pure theorycrafting! Playing RPGs is for pansies and I'm a real man.


Why do you think arcane bond: item is bad?
+4 initiative or w/e from familar is good, but getting to cast your best spell twice seems even better to me, especially early/mid game.

Because wizards are mostly good in CC and going first matters a lot for CC. I can understand Diviner going for bond but that's that. And you already have plenty of spellcasts so quality of those casts matters much more than quantity.
 

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Arcane Bond's main weakness in PNP is getting stolen or broken, neither of which is much of an issue here. Familiar's main boon in PNP is scouting (even just minimal risk "fly overhead and tell me if you see anything of interest" is huge in wilderness campaigns), share spells, touch attack deliver, using wands and some Improved Familiar options (Arbiter can combine its regeneration with a wand of Shield Other and double the entire party's HP, Fairy/Tidepool Dragon can cast on their own.) and I understand most, if not all, of those are absent.
 

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Also in most fights you have an opening salvo so INI really has nothing to do with "quality of spells". It would have been way more useful if game was TB.
 

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I fucking did it, thank god for the people who discovered how to edit the save files, I gave myself 2000 hitpoints and that prick Vordakai still hit me for 700hp. It seems that some enemies get the same stat bonus bug and they get ridiculous stats, I've seen some people on steam that get enemies with 2000AC in Pitax, what a fucking disaster:lol:
 

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Also in most fights you have an opening salvo so INI really has nothing to do with "quality of spells". It would have been way more useful if game was TB.
Some of the hardest fights you have to fight for init though (pretty much every boss battle so far for instance), so I really can see that as a huge deal: getting to do an instant cast of web or some other cc can easily turn the tide (although I find a summoning spell to be even better).
 

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Some of the hardest fights you have to fight for init though (pretty much every boss battle so far for instance), so I really can see that as a huge deal: getting to do an instant cast of web or some other cc can easily turn the tide (although I find a summoning spell to be even better).
You can pre-summon and pre-web as well.

I'd say the one fight in the game which puts you into some obvious disadvantage is end fight at Chapter III. Although you still get a few seconds to do something after
teleport
 

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