Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Desiderius]

I was going to play Paladin, but fuck that.

I want to be the calvary, so Cavalier it is.
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Gendarme is going to ROCK. Hap is going to Vital Strike that shit for 2,000 damage.

 

[Thonius]

Gottsa replay it at least 8 times....

 

[Desiderius]

Alright, final question: can I unlock the Hellknight prestige class by the end of chapter 3?

Should be easily able to get into Hellknight or Hellknight Signifier classes, whichever is your preference, yes.

I’m level six before end of ch 1, so yeah, but it kind of sux.

 

[Shinros]

I’m level six before end of ch 1, so yeah, but it kind of sux.

I disagree, Hellknight isn't finished yet but if you are planning to make a thug build you can do it without dipping into the class. Plus you get all the benefits of additional persuasion, armour training, lawful weapons, special weapon attributes, resistances and immunity to fire. Along with the bonuses against charm, fear and compulsion. Considering Regill's dex build, he benefits hugely from the armour training and also has decent touch ac, with mythic weapon finesse he's a great frontliner. Let's not forget the buffs you can add on top of him as well. And he has smite.

Fearsomeness (Ex; any order): A Hell Knight who successfully uses the Intimidate skill to cause a creature within 10 feet to become shaken can instead cause that creature to become frightened.

Plus the Godclaw discipline is pretty great. (It's not in the game yet, so Regill can't pick it.) Currently the only order disciplines in the game at the moment are rack, chain and nail.

Pentamic Faith (Ex; Order of the God Claw only): This ability allows the Hell Knight to select one of the following domains: Artifice, Glory, Knowledge, Law, Magic, Nobility, Protection, Rune, Strength, Travel, or War. The Hell Knight gains the granted powers (but not domain spells) of that domain, treating his Hell Knight levels as cleric levels to determine what domain abilities he has access to.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

Hold up, I can be a Cult Leader?

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

Restarting.

 

[Desiderius]

I’m level six before end of ch 1, so yeah, but it kind of sux.

I disagree, Hellknight isn't finished yet but if you are planning to make a thug build you can do it without dipping into the class. Plus you get all the benefits of additional persuasion, armour training, lawful weapons, special weapon attributes, resistances and immunity to fire. Along with the bonuses against charm, fear and compulsion. Considering Regill's dex build, he benefits hugely from the armour training and also has decent touch ac, with mythic weapon finesse he's a great frontliner. Let's not forget the buffs you can add on top of him as well. And he has smite.

Fearsomeness (Ex; any order): A Hell Knight who successfully uses the Intimidate skill to cause a creature within 10 feet to become shaken can instead cause that creature to become frightened.

Plus the Godclaw discipline is pretty great. (It's not in the game yet, so Regill can't pick it.) Currently the only order disciplines in the game at the moment are rack, chain and nail.

Pentamic Faith (Ex; Order of the God Claw only): This ability allows the Hell Knight to select one of the following domains: Artifice, Glory, Knowledge, Law, Magic, Nobility, Protection, Rune, Strength, Travel, or War. The Hell Knight gains the granted powers (but not domain spells) of that domain, treating his Hell Knight levels as cleric levels to determine what domain abilities he has access to.

Once you have one Domain you can get another via Mythic Impossible Domain so if he can pick up Inspiring Command from Nobility that would be clutch. Touch of Law is the Take 11 thing.

What Regill specifically is missing though is five Bonus Feats, Three Weapon Trainings, and Three Advanced Weapon Training Feats that he misses from his base class by taking HK which is a shit ton and sorely needed by Regill since two-weapon DEX builds are very Feat hungry.

 

[Cleric of Asmodeus]

Signifier seems a little ho hum when I took a look at it since most of the perks seem like PnP RP type of goo. Maybe I’m missing something, though.

I’m also hyped on what type of charging we’re all going to be doing and the Haplo numbers, mon amie

 

[Shinros]

Once you have one Domain you can get another via Mythic Impossible Domain so if he can pick up Inspiring Command from Nobility that would be clutch.

What Regill specifically is missing though is five Bonus Feats, Three Weapon Trainings, and Three Advanced Weapon Training Feats that he misses from his base class by taking HK which is a shit ton and sorely needed by Regill since two-weapon DEX builds are very Feat hungry.

Fair, normally when you invest into a prestige class you're losing something. As said the advanced weapon training, but so far on my core run, I'm not having much issue hitting things with regill's hooked hammer and his damage I find is decent. It could be more with the feats you mentioned, but as with most things in this game you can circumvent that. Considering he has many attacks due to the build he comes with, I picked up hammer the gap and outflank (Camellia has it as well). The honourable judgement is also a decent weapon that can carry him through most fights, considering his a gnome he has a good con bonus. So he can get punched in the face and avoid attacks without falling over.

Compared to you my knowledge is limited, but then if you do decide to take him further on his fighter levels, he loses out on the will bonuses HK provides and the HK disciplines, considering how jacked the enemies are on higher difficulties and we're facing demons. You can find value in that. It's merely a question of what you value more.

 

[Desiderius]

Signifier seems a little ho hum when I took a look at it since most of the perks seem like PnP RP type of goo. Maybe I’m missing something, though.

I’m also hyped on what type of charging we’re all going to be doing and the Haplo numbers, mon amie

There’s an early armor that knocks stuff down when you Charge.

 

[Desiderius]

Once you have one Domain you can get another via Mythic Impossible Domain so if he can pick up Inspiring Command from Nobility that would be clutch.

What Regill specifically is missing though is five Bonus Feats, Three Weapon Trainings, and Three Advanced Weapon Training Feats that he misses from his base class by taking HK which is a shit ton and sorely needed by Regill since two-weapon DEX builds are very Feat hungry.

Fair, normally when you invest into a prestige class you're losing something. As said the advanced weapon training, but so far on my core run, I'm not having much issue hitting things with regill's hooked hammer and his damage I find is decent. It could be more with the feats you mentioned, but as with most things in this game you can circumvent that. Considering he has many attacks due to the build he comes with, I picked up hammer the gap and outflank (Camellia has it as well). The honourable judgement is also a decent weapon that can carry him through most fights, considering his a gnome he has a good con bonus. So he can get punched in the face and avoid attacks without falling over.

Compared to you my knowledge is limited, but then if you do decide to take him further on his fighter levels, he loses out on the will bonuses HK provides and the HK disciplines, considering how jacked the enemies are on higher difficulties and we're facing demons. You can find value in that. It's merely a question of what you value more.

He only comes with two attax. You have to burn Feats he doesn’t really have to get more. Really want to get Shatter Defenses and Dreadful Carnage to go with Fearsomeness and to land all those iteratives/secondaries but you’re looking at four feats to get there.

I’d say HK should get at least two bonus feats. Some of those levels are real stinkers. Also, nobody knows shit at this point.

 

[Shinros]

He only comes with two attax. You have to burn Feats he doesn’t really have to get more. Really want to get Shatter Defenses and Dreadful Carnage to go with Fearsomeness and to land all those iteratives/secondaries but you’re looking at four feats to get there.

I’d say HK should get at least two bonus feats. Some of those levels are real stinkers. Also, nobody knows shit at this point.

I would say bonus feats would be helpful, I agree with you there. You're right that no one knows anything at this point, the game is still in alpha and HK isn't even finished. I just find it strange that on the owlcat forums people are stating certain companions are trash, then it becomes quite clear they never took the time to examine their abilities and how you can bring it together in a group.

 

[Cleric of Asmodeus]

I would say bonus feats would be helpful, I agree with you there. You're right that no one knows anything at this point, the game is still in alpha and HK isn't even finished. I just find it strange that on the owlcat forums people are stating certain companions are trash, then it becomes quite clear they never took the time to examine their abilities and how you can bring it together in a group.

Most other forums posts about what’s good or not are retarded, tbh

A lot of people seem to home in on one type of exploiting the game and don’t consider any of the other options and make assertions that they can’t back up empirically

 

[Xamenos]

I just find it strange that on the owlcat forums people are stating certain companions are trash, then it becomes quite clear they never took the time to examine their abilities and how you can bring it together in a group.

You wouldn't have found it strange at all if you'd seen some of the discussions about KM's companions. Many people are just irredeemably retarded.

 

[Shinros]

Leaks for the devil, again this might not be true. Could be subject to change etc, the poster who said this could be lying, so...

Spoiler

The devil advisor Aeon gets works for Mephistopheles that piece of information is revealed as you ask him questions in the current alpha, but apparently at some point the archdevil comes to visit you, so does the queen of Cheliax.

 

[Desiderius]

He only comes with two attax. You have to burn Feats he doesn’t really have to get more. Really want to get Shatter Defenses and Dreadful Carnage to go with Fearsomeness and to land all those iteratives/secondaries but you’re looking at four feats to get there.

I’d say HK should get at least two bonus feats. Some of those levels are real stinkers. Also, nobody knows shit at this point.

I would say bonus feats would be helpful, I agree with you there. You're right that no one knows anything at this point, the game is still in alpha and HK isn't even finished. I just find it strange that on the owlcat forums people are stating certain companions are trash, then it becomes quite clear they never took the time to examine their abilities and how you can bring it together in a group.

Just one dork mostly.

They’re saying looks like HK needs some help. If you’ve leveled one up alongside a Fighter it’s hard to argue.

 

[Desiderius]

I would say bonus feats would be helpful, I agree with you there. You're right that no one knows anything at this point, the game is still in alpha and HK isn't even finished. I just find it strange that on the owlcat forums people are stating certain companions are trash, then it becomes quite clear they never took the time to examine their abilities and how you can bring it together in a group.

Most other forums posts about what’s good or not are retarded, tbh

A lot of people seem to home in on one type of exploiting the game and don’t consider any of the other options and make assertions that they can’t back up empirically

There’s a back and forth on the Owlcat forums where this guy keeps insisting on talking down to me with his exquisitely calculated negative theorycrafting and I keep posting screenshots of wasting a boss singlehandedly in one round on hard with the class he’s ragging on while he impotently sputters.

It’s great.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Leaks for the devil, again this might not be true. Could be subject to change etc, the poster who said this could be lying, so...

Spoiler

The devil advisor Aeon gets works for Mephistopheles that piece of information is revealed as you ask him questions in the current alpha, but apparently at some point the archdevil comes to visit you, so does the queen of Cheliax.

That does sound great. Probably too good to be true though.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Desiderius you're nothing comparing to InEffect anyway.

 

[Desiderius]

Desiderius you're nothing comparing to InEffect anyway.

Thank God.

This guy was obviously from the InEffect school. The man himself showed up in some thread that got necroed on Steam which I’m on now so unfortunately clicked on the alert. Telling some kid to cast Stinking Cloud on Tartuccio and Hargulka.

 

[Shinros]

That does sound great. Probably too good to be true though.

Well the poster just said it's all true, they read this thread. It's in the russian files.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Why Stinking Cloud with good DC would not work on Tartuccio?

 

[Shinros]

That does sound great. Probably too good to be true though.

He gave us a sneak peak, this reads like owlcat's writing. So I think it's true.

Spoiler

"I saw a unique creature and became interested in it. Many forces were watching you, but I took a place in the front row. And after watching, I desired to meet you. If you prove yourself worthy of my gifts and my patronage, of course"
"Face it, Commander. You are not an Aeon. Aeons are born in space, from pure energies, from metaphysical forces that mortals cannot grasp. You are a creature of flesh and blood. The witch's experiment. Something unpredictable. And you cannot be infallible"

 

[Heroic Liberator]

That does sound great. Probably too good to be true though.

He gave us a sneak peak, this reads like owlcat's writing. So I think it's true.

Spoiler

"I saw a unique creature and became interested in it. Many forces were watching you, but I took a place in the front row. And after watching, I desired to meet you. If you prove yourself worthy of my gifts and my patronage, of course"
"Face it, Commander. You are not an Aeon. Aeons are born in space, from pure energies, from metaphysical forces that mortals cannot grasp. You are a creature of flesh and blood. The witch's experiment. Something unpredictable. And you cannot be infallible"

Spoiler

The witch's experiment? What's it referencing?

 

[Shinros]

That's alpha information. For sake of people who don't want to know.

Spoiler

Areelu has done something to the PC in relation to mythic power, her experiment is why the PC has the mythic power.

 

[Lawntoilet]

Spoiler

The witch's experiment? What's it referencing?

That's one of the main plot threads you follow in Chapter 3.