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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Owlcat's next Pathfinder RPG - now in ALPHA

Discussion in 'Owlcat Games' started by purpleblob, Nov 27, 2019.

  1. Mr. Magniloquent Savant

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    I'm going to call bullshit on this one. They made her a lithe elf. Generally regarded as the epitome of feminine youth and beauty. Do you think it's a coincidence that the character isn't a half-orc, dwarf, or other burly and unsightly race? This is Aerie 2.0 with troubling undertones.
     
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  2. Technomancer Learned

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    Whatever it is, it still is an abomination. Very hard to do right.
     
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  3. Drowed Arcane

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    It's hard to do it right, true, but that goes for all kinds of art.

    Most works of fiction are terrible. I mean, go to any bookstore of your choice and search for fantasy books, and see what you find. But "because magic" is undoubtedly one of the first signs that it's a bad work of fantasy. Any good work of fiction has to have a minimum of verisimilitude, and that comes from a universe with consistent rules and laws. If the answer to any question is "because magic," that's not much different from the terrible books of sci-fi where the answer is "because [inexplicable] science."
     
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  4. Efe Arbiter

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    some like brandon sanderson do explain and even when he cant explain it, he does fit his magic into a certain consistent logic.
     
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  5. Lawntoilet Arbiter Patron

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    Sanderson doesn't just pull stuff out of his ass and say "because magic" though, he tends to do quite a good job establishing the rules and laying groundwork before any major plot problems, not just pull some miraculous solution out of his ass like the Flaz Gaz Heat Ray: https://amazingstories.com/2014/05/...ific-profligacy-r-lionel-fanthorpe-sf-author/
     
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  6. InD_ImaginE Magister Patron

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    Yeah you can criticize Sanderson's books for whatever reason but establishing world and magical rule isn't one of them. His magic has fairly established rule and exceptions are usually set up before they are relevant to avoid some ass pull deus ex machina later.
     
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  7. Ipum Novice

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    Baba Yaga appearance would be awesome.
     
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  8. FranticDistortion Learned

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    My portrait for Oread monk is ready
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    Jerk Stronghand[​IMG]
     
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  9. Lacrymas Arcane

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    This is exactly Aerie 2.0 because the same aspects were present with her as well.
     
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  10. FranticDistortion Learned

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    Elfs suck because they live for 1000 years and the best they can achieve is a fucking tree house, bows and useless magic. Every time elf becomes something more than a dendrophile, they turn into evil asshole that want to rule or kill everything, yet for some reason they look down on every other race and don't mind backstabbing everyone for their own gain. Tolkien-esque elfs suck so much, turning them into flesh eating hive-mind worshippers makes them more likeable.
     
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  11. Magnat Arcane Vatnik

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    Well put, but...
    You're not supposed to like them. They're elv*s after all.
     
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  12. FranticDistortion Learned

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    Being a bit more likeable doesn't help when they are in the Mariana Trench of likability.
     
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  13. LannTheStupid Товарищ Patron

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    Magnat that's some hard vata shit in your signature. I need to add something from Right Sector to mine.
     
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  14. Magnat Arcane Vatnik

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    That's why you shouldn't turn them into monstrosities, since they're more disgusting as an equivalent to the 'banality of evil'.
    Right Sector is kosher stuff, ukrop comrade. If you want to go fashy, go all the way.
     
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  15. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    What is with all the butthurt over elf chicks? At least you don't get to bang a jewish dwarfen one.

    Only defects and jews dislike elven women. Which normal person wouldn't want to bang a tall slender/fit blond with blue eyes and exotic ears?????
     
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  16. Lacrymas Arcane

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    Like a friend of mine used to say, everyone can bang slender, hot chicks, only real men can fuck the fatties and appearance-challenged.
     
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  17. Lawntoilet Arbiter Patron

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    Dwarves aren't Jewish, gnomes are. Didn't you play Arcanum?
     
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  18. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    Dwarfs are western jews while gnomes are arab jews :smug:
     
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  19. FranticDistortion Learned

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    Dwarfs are Scandinavians, they love swearing and drinking.
     
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  20. Lawntoilet Arbiter Patron

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    Nah the Arcanum gnomes are totally Hollywood/Epstein/Illuminati banker jews.
    Shit if you're a gnome one of the hookers at the Tarant brothel calls it "playing hide the coin" when you bang her.
    Arcanum dwarves are more Scottish, not just the accents but also the mining and being a tech hotbed during the industrial revolution. The Scots also have similar stereotypes of being cheapskates as the Jews though I guess so there is that.
     
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  21. Harthwain Scholar

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    Not every sci-fi is hard sci-fi.

    In fact most sci-fi out there isn't hard sci-fi, because making hard sci-fi is... hard. It's not easy to come up with a plausible idea that uses "our" reality (even if it happens in the future) and it's a challenge to tell it in an interesting fashion to people who treat books like [mindless] entertainment. Fantasy is much easier to do in comparison and that includes space fantasy as well.

    This reminded me about an analysis someone made when pointing out why Eragon's fantasy world - presented in a book - was pure bullshit from logical standpoint. It was a really fun to read.

    Like in BG2?
     
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  22. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    In actual mythology dwarfs(and elfs) are seen as malevolent earth spirits/creatures. They are small,greedy,deformed creatures that rape women and kill/eat/kidnap children/babies. It really makes you think how fantasy and D&D twisted the nature of those dark creatures. Hmmmm maybe all that shit about those people being satanists and shit,holds some truth in it.
     
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  23. FranticDistortion Learned

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    What is that "actual" mythology you are talking about? As far I am aware, in the earliest ones they caused illnesses, not kidnappings and rapes.
     
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  24. Ninjerk Arcane

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    Thrice damned knife-ears
     
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  25. S.torch Learned

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    If fantasy was "easier" to do, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
     
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